2nd Round: Warriors vs. Rockets

[TonyTexas 10,482]

Durant is the only one playing heavy minutes compared to the Rockets starters. Not sure if they can keep playing him 45 mins a game but also not sure if CP3 can keep playing almost 40 mins per game. 

Durant(180), Green(164) and Thompson(165) have each played more minutes than Harden and Gordon, who lead the Rockets at 158 minutes. Curry is also at 158. But don’t let the facts get in your way.

[ztejas 43,266]

12 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Durant(180), Green(164) and Thompson(165) have each played more minutes than Harden and Gordon, who lead the Rockets at 158 minutes. Curry is also at 158. But don’t let the facts get in your way.

Yeah a whole 6 and 7 minutes extra played over 4 games. Kerr is really running those 2 into the ground, isn't he? 

Like I said - the only valid concerns would be the minutes Durant is playing compared to everyone else in the series, and the minutes CP is playing given his age and injury history. I don't see how 90 seconds tacked onto 39 mpg is at all a meaningful metric. Both teams are riding their starters hard. 

[ChickenSandwich 9,798]

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

How is thinking the Bucks or Raptors can handle Houston in a 7 game series being a hater? Those teams are absolutely good enough to beat Houston.

The Bucks have a hell of a lot more to prove than the Rockets after breezing through a Lebron-less East. 

Now they will be a shot ton more fresh than the Western Conference Champion due to weaker competition. 

I think Denver would beat the Bucks in a seven game series and maybe the Jazz as well based on matchups. 

[HtownHorn 14,487]

2 hours ago, MoJames said:

I thought the discussion was about how the bench would effect the stamina of the team. How does this comment expand on that discussion?

Well when you are consistently having to come from behind because your bench is getting blown out it affects your stamina later in games.

[MoJames 8,241]

21 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Well when you are consistently having to come from behind because your bench is getting blown out it affects your stamina later in games.

Admirable attempt to save him.

[elguapo 4,583]

10 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Admirable attempt to save him.

Save me from what, were you going to make a point or just continue to try and sound smart without actually saying anything?

[MoJames 8,241]

Just now, elguapo said:

Save me from what, were you going to make a point or just continue to try and sound smart without actually saying anything?

I was pointing out your comment had nothing to do with the discussion that was being had. You in fact introduced an argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. Or the wikipedia definition of a strawman fallacy. The exact term you used in the KD thread to call out Derka (not accurately mind you). So I guess if double standards are your thing, rock and roll.

Back to the original point, having a day off instead of 2 will not effect either team more than the other when factoring in the age of the rosters, general health, minutes played in my opinion.

[elguapo 4,583]

2 minutes ago, MoJames said:

I was pointing out your comment had nothing to do with the discussion that was being had. You in fact introduced an argument and an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while actually refuting an argument that was not presented by that opponent. Or the wikipedia definition of a strawman fallacy. The exact term you used in the KD thread to call out Derka (not accurately mind you). So I guess if double standards are your thing, rock and roll.

Back to the original point, having a day off instead of 2 will not effect either team more than the other when factoring in the age of the rosters, general health, minutes played in my opinion.

I was responding to another poster who was comparing the play of the Rockets bench thus far to the GS bench, but continue being a pedant, it's adorable.

In the KD thread Derka argued against a position that no one in the thread was taking, the very definition of a strawman fallacy..

[MoJames 8,241]

3 hours ago, aggie08 said:

What bench? Both teams are basically playing 6 guys at this point. Anyone else they throw out there gets immediately targeted. I'd give Houston a slight advantage because Shumpert hasn't been a complete disaster, so they've been able to steal a few minutes here and there. Conversely, Livingston can't even tread water for a couple of minutes anymore.

 

4 minutes ago, elguapo said:

I was responding to another poster who was comparing the play of the Rockets bench thus far to the GS bench.

Incorrect. He was not comparing the productivity of the bench as you contended.  He was simply saying that neither team has bench that can help with significant minutes without that team's defense suffering. So you argued against a position that no one in the thread was taking.

 

[elguapo 4,583]

3 hours ago, aggie08 said:

I'd give Houston a slight advantage because Shumpert hasn't been a complete disaster

 

3 minutes ago, MoJames said:

 

He was not comparing the productivity of the bench as you contended.

 

 

lolwut

I also wasn't arguing against his position that Rockets have a slight advantage with their bench, because that is my position also. I was just adding context.

[Mole 4,320]

That gif is like the Zapruder film. Back and to the right.

[Skipper 6,103]

Can't believe this is another 9:30 local start time tonight.  Scheduling can't be helping the ratings.

[aggie08 21,434]

Every weekday game at Oracle starts at 7:30 local all season long.

[ChickenSandwich 9,798]

and it's horseshit, they don't start every game in Houston at 730

[Skipper 6,103]

9 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Every weekday game at Oracle starts at 7:30 local all season long.

This isn't a Weds game in November.  It's the most anticipated series in the Western Conference.  The NBA is losing hundreds of thousands of neutral viewers on the east coast and central time zones.  Just dumb IMO.   Bumping up both games tonight 1 hour should be workable and would make a big difference.  

Edited May 8, 2019 by Skipper

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,342]

Blows chuncks. May not even watch the game tonight. 

[MoJames 8,241]

1 hour ago, Skipper said:

This isn't a Weds game in November.  It's the most anticipated series in the Western Conference.  The NBA is losing hundreds of thousands of neutral viewers on the east coast and central time zones.  Just dumb IMO.   Bumping up both games tonight 1 hour should be workable and would make a big difference.  

Fuck the east coast.

[Barry_McCokiner 160]

Rockets are dirty as shit

[Skipper 6,103]

6 minutes ago, MoJames said:

Fuck the east coast.

I'm not personally concerned about them.  The NBA and their TV partners should be if they like money.  I'm pissed as a neutral fan in the central time zone that would like to watch the series but not enough to sacrifice sleep for it.  Probably not worth tuning in at all if turning it off before 2nd half.

Edited May 8, 2019 by Skipper

[Vic Mackey 46,936]

2 hours ago, Skipper said:

Can't believe this is another 9:30 local start time tonight.  Scheduling can't be helping the ratings.

I sense the age demographic of a big chunk of the NBA fans are of a younger age. NBA is great at marketing their sport and athletes on social media. They allow them to do that unlike the NFL and Goodell. A lot of younger people are night owls. So the late starts don't bother them and many embrace it.

[Vic Mackey 46,936]

No idea how true this is.

[immortal13 4,059]

I'm not buying that 

[Patrick Bateman 3,903]

42 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

No idea how true this is.

We went over this yesterday..... 

[Dutchrudder 11,115]

He will have plenty of opportunities once KD goes to New York. He will also get a lot of blame when their team doesn't get out of the 2nd round next year. 

[MoJames 8,241]

Lol, good someone else used Stephen A. Smith as a source.

[TexArcher 37,518]

22 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

He will have plenty of opportunities once KD goes to New York. He will also get a lot of blame when their team doesn't get out of the 2nd round next year. 

Edit: misread this.

But yeah, without KD, the Warriors will look a lot more beatable than they already do.

Edited May 8, 2019 by TexArcher

[HtownHorn 14,487]

Warriors need to offer Klay the max the minute FA begins, or they might lose both Durant and Thompson.

[Vic Mackey 46,936]

41 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

We went over this yesterday..... 

The don't reply to it and move on.

[Patrick Bateman 3,903]

22 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Warriors need to offer Klay the max the minute FA begins, or they might lose both Durant and Thompson.

Yikes!  They probably will though.

14 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

The don't reply to it and move on.

Figured you'd like the information.  If there's anyone that needs to be educated on these forums, you're definitely scratching the top of the list.

 

[Rockethorn1978 6,061]

It's amazing how every series the narrative changes game to game. One night Embiid after having one good game is now one of the greatest centers ever, Rockets win 2 home games they are supposed to win and now it's "the end of the splash brothers"? I hope my team wins tonight but I know the Warriors will come out and look like the old Warriors and win by 10+ and it's "oh the Rockets are terrible it's over" then the Rockets win game 6 and on to game 7 with another narrative. I expect it from the click bait media that does it for ratings but it surprises me how many people get sucked in to all of it.

I also get annoyed with why the media can't just enjoy the season we are in, seems like every season the moment a new one tips off they are already talking about "next seasons trades and if this superstar is staying next summer", The future is always more interesting than the present I guess.

[ztejas 43,266]

42 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

Warriors need to offer Klay the max the minute FA begins, or they might lose both Durant and Thompson.

Idk I heard Klay might be tired of playing third fiddle to Curry and KD

SIAP

[smwhorn 481]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Idk I heard Klay might be tired of playing third fiddle to Curry and KD

SIAP

No way.

[TexArcher 37,518]

I wish Iguodala would get tired of playing 5th fiddle and come be a Rocket.

[immortal13 4,059]

3 hours ago, Dutchrudder said:

He will have plenty of opportunities once KD goes to New York. He will also get a lot of blame when their team doesn't get out of the 2nd round next year. 

Lulz

[Machinator 32,097]

 

[Patrick Bateman 3,903]

Just to put the Klay BS out to pasture (at least until the offseason), here is an article about how the Warriors aren't worried about resigning Klay at all.  And this comes from a real to God reporter who covers the team.  

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26657933/why-warriors-sweating-klay-thompson-free-agency

Quote

Even if Warriors owner Joe Lacob wanted to right now, he couldn't come out and say "We plan to offer Klay a max contract"; that's against league protocol. But the reason both the Warriors and Thompson have been so confident about getting an extension done is the respect built up between the two parties over close to a decade. The simple fact is that the Warriors love Thompson and Thompson loves being a Warrior....

West is now with the LA Clippers, one of the teams that would potentially like to pry Thompson away from Golden State this summer. Not only does the team have the cap space necessary to do so, but Thompson was born in Los Angeles, where his father won multiple championships with the Lakers in the 1980s. However, despite the lack of chatter around him this season, the Warriors aren't about to let Thompson go without a fight.

"I know that everybody -- coaches, management, ownership -- everybody wants Klay back," Kerr said. "I think the feeling is just, Klay wants to be here, we want Klay."

 

[Machinator 32,097]

 

[Machinator 32,097]

Klay is showing up early.

[aggie08 21,434]

I think my favorite part about when these teams play is how mostly irrelevant 8, 10, 12 point leads are. Houston will make a couple of shots in a minute or two and completely erase it.

[Machinator 32,097]

6 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I think my favorite part about when these teams play is how mostly irrelevant 8, 10, 12 point leads are. Houston will make a couple of shots in a minute or two and completely erase it.

Not the way these Game 5s have gone.

[immortal13 4,059]

Lulz on that being a blocking foul on Green. Gordon plowed into him

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

I see curry has returned to his typical playoff form, after a rather uncharacteristic game 4 performance where he put up 30. He’s getting bailed out though so it’s all good.

 

All kidding aside, it’ll be interesting to see what he looks like when KD leaves. Does he go back to being a top 5 player when the offense goes through him?

[Dutchrudder 11,115]

Lulz on that being a blocking foul on Green. Gordon plowed into him

Yeah, that one was bad, and the one at the end of the quarter was bad too. I think the refs might be keeping this game somewhat competitive, cause Houston is playing like dogshit tonight.

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,342]

BUT MANE, THE  REFS ARE BIASED AGAINST HOUSTON!!!!! CLUTCH CITY BITCHES....

 

Fuck this late game, how the hell am I supposed to get up tomorrow and go to work? 

[aggie08 21,434]

2 minutes ago, youdunnf'dup said:

I see curry has returned to his typical playoff form

Steph's career playoffs numbers are 26, 6, and 5 on 45/41/90% shooting. Slightly down from his career percentages, but every other guard in the league would kill for those playoff numbers. Dame, Kyrie, Russ, Harden, Kyrie, Paul...none are particularly close.

He's had one truly bad playoff series (the 2016 Finals). If this series goes the way it has been, it will make 2...out of 21 career series. Maybe chill a bit with the hot takes.

[immortal13 4,059]

16 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

22 minutes ago, immortal13 said:

Lulz on that being a blocking foul on Green. Gordon plowed into him

Yeah, that one was bad, and the one at the end of the quarter was bad too. I think the refs might be keeping this game somewhat competitive, cause Houston is playing like dogshit 

Harden is such a flopping bitch

[immortal13 4,059]

Lulz where was the fucking foul?

[immortal13 4,059]

Chris Paul lulz

[youdunnf'dup 2,147]

I thought the “all kidding aside” would give away the fact that I was kidding, but apparently it didn’t. I was kidding, Aggie08. 

I was also drunk and frustrated during and after game 4 so there was some over exaggerating the other night. Money was on the line and I got emotional haha. I do not know wtf I’m talking about when it comes to the current NBA. It’s the sport I follow the least out of the 3 major sports.

[immortal13 4,059]

Cool story, bruh