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3 hours ago, El Diablo said:

Doc started me on an aspirin regimen a year or so ago. I guess I've been lucky up to this point but this week and last week I cut myself shaving and bled for 2 fucking hours from a tiny, tiny nick. wtf.

That's pretty crazy. I know low doses of aspirin help with heart issues, but we were just discussing with a family member who is a doctor at the Med Center, and he basically said never, ever, ever take aspirin. He won't take it for anything. He says he deals with more people who've never drank with blown out livers from taking too much aspirin as hardcore boozers. He said you couldn't pay him to take asprin for anything. Crazy how you can get different advice from different doctors. And by crazy, I mean it fucking sucks and is confusing. 

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4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

That's pretty crazy. I know low doses of aspirin help with heart issues, but we were just discussing with a family member who is a doctor at the Med Center, and he basically said never, ever, ever take aspirin. He won't take it for anything. He says he deals with more people who've never drank with blown out livers from taking too much aspirin as hardcore boozers. He said you couldn't pay him to take asprin for anything. Crazy how you can get different advice from different doctors. And by crazy, I mean it fucking sucks and is confusing. 

I don't know how much it takes to blow out a liver. It's a low dose, one chewable a day, supposedly keeps the platelets from sticking together. Can confirm.

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7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

That's pretty crazy. I know low doses of aspirin help with heart issues, but we were just discussing with a family member who is a doctor at the Med Center, and he basically said never, ever, ever take aspirin. He won't take it for anything. He says he deals with more people who've never drank with blown out livers from taking too much aspirin as hardcore boozers. He said you couldn't pay him to take asprin for anything. Crazy how you can get different advice from different doctors. And by crazy, I mean it fucking sucks and is confusing. 

I've always heard the low dose aspirin daily thing as well but recently was told that it's better not to take aspirin-- I think the thinking is being changed to your family members way of thinking...

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1 minute ago, El Diablo said:

I don't know how much it takes to blow out a liver. It's a low dose, one chewable a day, supposedly keeps the platelets from sticking together. Can confirm.

It's it's acetaminophen, not aspirin. I'm a fucking idiot. Also, too many similar products. Which is the one I can take when my hangover is so bad I can't open my eyes?

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I was about to say. Tylenol is broken down in the liver and you can overdose on, especially if you combine it with alcohol which also goes to the liver. Aspirin is broken down in the kidneys and is almost impossible to overdose on. "Broken down" is probably the wrong phrase too, I'm sure a doc can correct me.

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ibuprofen "breaks down" in the kidneys too from what the med people have told me. It's not as bad for you as acetaminophen is for the liver but will still do damage to the organ that processes it. I saw somewhere a few years back that Extra Strength Tylenol even when taken at the recommended dosage for just 2 days will cause liver enzyme readings to get wonky. Doesn't affect me, I'm going to bleed out.

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8 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

ibuprofen "breaks down" in the kidneys too from what the med people have told me. It's not as bad for you as acetaminophen is for the liver but will still do damage to the organ that processes it. I saw somewhere a few years back that Extra Strength Tylenol even when taken at the recommended dosage for just 2 days will cause liver enzyme readings to get wonky. Doesn't affect me, I'm going to bleed out.

This on the ibuprofen.  I was taking two to four ibuprofen tablets every day for over a year for a bad case of tendinitis in my arm.  When my blood work came back from my annual physical my doctor noted substantially decreased kidney function.  He basically asked me WTF I was thinking by taking ibuprofen for that long.  My kidney function returned to normal after a few months. 

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3 minutes ago, HouTex said:

This on the ibuprofen.  I was taking two to four ibuprofen tablets every day for over a year for a bad case of tendinitis in my arm.  When my blood work came back from my annual physical my doctor noted substantially decreased kidney function.  He basically asked me WTF I was thinking by taking ibuprofen for that long.  My kidney function returned to normal after a few months. 

I probably take more ibuprofen than I need to then. fml. Good to know though that the kidneys will rebound, I don't need to be doing anymore damage to myself than I've already done.

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1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

That's pretty crazy. I know low doses of aspirin help with heart issues, but we were just discussing with a family member who is a doctor at the Med Center, and he basically said never, ever, ever take aspirin. He won't take it for anything. He says he deals with more people who've never drank with blown out livers from taking too much aspirin as hardcore boozers. He said you couldn't pay him to take asprin for anything. Crazy how you can get different advice from different doctors. And by crazy, I mean it fucking sucks and is confusing. 

I'm pretty much hearing the same thing from my doctors. After I first had heart trouble back in 06, they had me taking one reduced strength aspirin once a day.  2 years ago they took me off aspirin and told me to never take them again.

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2 hours ago, El Diablo said:

I don't know how much it takes to blow out a liver. It's a low dose, one chewable a day, supposedly keeps the platelets from sticking together. Can confirm.

Just an FYI. Docs and pharma tell patients to take it (ASA) daily as it then becomes a habit and you'll not forget to take it. Your low dose of 81mg a day will still stay in your system for 7 days (keep taking though as it won't hurt and you won't forget). Being on them daily, you'd get 2 baby aspirin instead of 4 should you have a cardiac event.

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I have been dealing with some ongoing ability to get some deep breaths in.  My doc sent me to the cardiologist to make sure I did not have an issue with the old ticker.  Had to do an echogram (sp) and a stress test.  Just got the call today that I am all good.  Thank God.  He had me taking baby aspirin and I can stop that now.  I guess we will move on to another specialist to figure out my olds.  The thinking is it is stress induced, but I am at that age where you need to rule out stuff.  For the record I don't smoke and never have.

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55 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

I have been dealing with some ongoing ability to get some deep breaths in.  My doc sent me to the cardiologist to make sure I did not have an issue with the old ticker.  Had to do an echogram (sp) and a stress test.  Just got the call today that I am all good.  Thank God.  He had me taking baby aspirin and I can stop that now.  I guess we will move on to another specialist to figure out my olds.  The thinking is it is stress induced, but I am at that age where you need to rule out stuff.  For the record I don't smoke and never have.

Not a doctor, but love playing gynocologist...

I noticed as I've gotten older that I have a tendency to "tighten up" subconsciously. It caused me to take shallow breaths which I didn't notice until I realized I couldn't draw deep breaths. I'm trying to remember the term for it, but it's been a big thing the last few years as far as being aware and conscious of what your body is doing. Focusing on being relaxed, especially in the chest and shoulders has helped immensely.   I still occasionally catch myself tensing up, but catch it earlier and more often. 

Damn what is that term....

Edit: Mindfulness

Edit2: If greater well-being isn't enough of an incentive, scientists have discovered that mindfulness techniques help improve physical health in a number of ways. Mindfulness can: help relieve stress, treat heart disease, lower blood pressure, reduce chronic pain, , improve sleep, and alleviate gastrointestinal difficulties.

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18 hours ago, SHOOTER12 said:

Not a doctor, but love playing gynocologist...

I noticed as I've gotten older that I have a tendency to "tighten up" subconsciously. It caused me to take shallow breaths which I didn't notice until I realized I couldn't draw deep breaths. I'm trying to remember the term for it, but it's been a big thing the last few years as far as being aware and conscious of what your body is doing. Focusing on being relaxed, especially in the chest and shoulders has helped immensely.   I still occasionally catch myself tensing up, but catch it earlier and more often. 

Damn what is that term....

Edit: Mindfulness

Edit2: If greater well-being isn't enough of an incentive, scientists have discovered that mindfulness techniques help improve physical health in a number of ways. Mindfulness can: help relieve stress, treat heart disease, lower blood pressure, reduce chronic pain, , improve sleep, and alleviate gastrointestinal difficulties.

Weird that this discussion reminded me that when I was a teen I went thru a period, might have been as long as a year, where I had what was then called "Sighing respiration".

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10 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

Weird that this discussion reminded me that when I was a teen I went thru a period, might have been as long as a year, where I had what was then called "Sighing respiration".

Didn't know about that, or even the name for it but after reading your post I looked it up and damn, I still do that on occasion.

 

The Science Behind Sighing: Breathing Deeply Is A Life-Saving Reflex, Sustains Lung Function. ... “It starts out as a normal breath, but before you exhale, you take a secondbreath on top of it.” During a sigh, the lungs' alveoli, or air sacs, expand, providing us with a sense of relief.Feb

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8 minutes ago, SHOOTER12 said:

Didn't know about that, or even the name for it but after reading your post I looked it up and damn, I still do that on occasion.

 

The Science Behind Sighing: Breathing Deeply Is A Life-Saving Reflex, Sustains Lung Function. ... “It starts out as a normal breath, but before you exhale, you take a secondbreath on top of it.” During a sigh, the lungs' alveoli, or air sacs, expand, providing us with a sense of relief.Feb

I guess I did it enough that my mom noticed it and took me to the doc. I think his treatment was to just wait and see. Sure enough at some point I stopped doing it. Just googling now it looks like it was stress related. fml, stressed out as a teen? lol, no wonder I went the alkie route.

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15 minutes ago, SHOOTER12 said:

Didn't know about that, or even the name for it but after reading your post I looked it up and damn, I still do that on occasion.

 

The Science Behind Sighing: Breathing Deeply Is A Life-Saving Reflex, Sustains Lung Function. ... “It starts out as a normal breath, but before you exhale, you take a secondbreath on top of it.” During a sigh, the lungs' alveoli, or air sacs, expand, providing us with a sense of relief.Feb

 

Or you can just breathe deeply and slowly for 20 minutes a day.  

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5 minutes ago, PRONG HORN said:

 

Or you can just breathe deeply and slowly for 20 minutes a day.  

The thing about it is that it was involuntary, and didn't even know what it was until I read it up thread.  But yes, the 20 minutes of deep breathing is the best.

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22 hours ago, Moby Ric said:

I have been dealing with some ongoing ability to get some deep breaths in.  My doc sent me to the cardiologist to make sure I did not have an issue with the old ticker.  Had to do an echogram (sp) and a stress test.  Just got the call today that I am all good.  Thank God.  He had me taking baby aspirin and I can stop that now.  I guess we will move on to another specialist to figure out my olds.  The thinking is it is stress induced, but I am at that age where you need to rule out stuff.  For the record I don't smoke and never have.

This started happening to me a few years ago and my gp diagnosed me with (I think) 'seasonal asthma'.  Basically the few times a year certain things are in the air i have a hard time getting a deep breath.  He gave me an inhaler (ibuterol?) and when it flairs up a couple of times a year i take a pull or two off that and am good.

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My cardiologist has had me on Prasugrel 10 mg blood thinner since the January heart attack, and the daily baby aspirin. Gotta be very careful shaving or else keep a good supply of bandaids handy. A couple of times I have scraped myself with my thumbnail and started a damn bleeder session. Even just a little unnoticed pin prick will cause a 3” diameter blood spot to soak through my shorts. Scratched my ear one night in bed and woke up to a pillowcase with a bloodstain as big as my hand.

Tylenol? I take it a couple of times a week (2 extra strength at a time) for a headache or a sore back. Lipids are always normal, so apparently I haven’t kilt my liver yet.

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On 7/17/2019 at 2:06 PM, HouTex said:

This on the ibuprofen.  I was taking two to four ibuprofen tablets every day for over a year for a bad case of tendinitis in my arm.  When my blood work came back from my annual physical my doctor noted substantially decreased kidney function.  He basically asked me WTF I was thinking by taking ibuprofen for that long.  My kidney function returned to normal after a few months. 

I did something like that once, but I was pissing blood first.

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I too am +50. My recipe for sleep: P90x at 5:00 am. When I’m regular with it I sleep like a rock.


Good advice. Also if I’m good about drinking a ton of water, going to bed at 10, and not drinking during the week I sleep much better. I’m not so good at that last part.
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I did something like that once, but I was pissing blood first.

That happened to me on an earlier occasion. I sprained my wrist from a fall while snow skiing and a friend's girl friend who was a nurse said I could 3 or 4 ibuprofen at one time. I had never done that. She said the directions on the label were overly conservative and that I should 3 or 4 for severe pain. After I pissed blood I went to the doctor and he couldn't believe a nurse actually told me that. I felt like a total idiot.
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11 hours ago, HouTex said:


That happened to me on an earlier occasion. I sprained my wrist from a fall while snow skiing and a friend's girl friend who was a nurse said I could 3 or 4 ibuprofen at one time. I had never done that. She said the directions on the label were overly conservative and that I should 3 or 4 for severe pain. After I pissed blood I went to the doctor and he couldn't believe a nurse actually told me that. I felt like a total idiot.

The VA has prescribed me 800mg ibuprofen with directions to take 2 every 12 hours as needed for pain. I think the standard dose is 2X200mg of OTC ibuprofen. You got weak kidney game, bro.

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I was prescribed a statin drug by the VA med. Not sure if it was the med or not but I was having some muscle aches and on top of that I finally read the directions and said fuck it. I take the 2 regular meds (the aspirin and a blood pressure pill) in the morning and was taking one of the statin pills then too.

Well the directions say to take a HALF a pill and at night. wtf? I already have to put in 4 different eye drops at night and each one of them has to sit for a few minutes to get absorbed so prolly 15 minutes spent dosing my eyes every night. Now I gotta cut your pills in half and add that to my routine? fml.

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I took Crestor for about 8 years or so and I stopped taking it around 7 months ago.  I hate taking drugs and it seemed like I always had some kind of muscle ache so I stopped.  My cholesterol/lipid numbers were just borderline unacceptable, but my doctor said it's a very low risk way to reduce another risk factor.  So after around 7 months off the Crestor and trying (sort of) to eat healthier and work out even more, my cholesterol/lipids are within the acceptable range.  And the muscle pain seems to have gone away.  But there's something to be said for popping one little pill each day for $10/month and eating pretty much whatever you want.

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On 7/18/2019 at 2:13 PM, El Diablo said:

Weird that this discussion reminded me that when I was a teen I went thru a period, might have been as long as a year, where I had what was then called "Sighing respiration".

This is the getting old sucks thread.  You're supposed to talk about going through menopause not your first menstruation. 

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17 hours ago, HouTex said:

I took Crestor for about 8 years or so and I stopped taking it around 7 months ago.  I hate taking drugs and it seemed like I always had some kind of muscle ache so I stopped.  My cholesterol/lipid numbers were just borderline unacceptable, but my doctor said it's a very low risk way to reduce another risk factor.  So after around 7 months off the Crestor and trying (sort of) to eat healthier and work out even more, my cholesterol/lipids are within the acceptable range.  And the muscle pain seems to have gone away.  But there's something to be said for popping one little pill each day for $10/month and eating pretty much whatever you want.

I'll see the doc the 20th of next month for a 6 month checkup. If the numbers suck I'll give it a try. Still not sure if the muscle aches were related to the statin drug or not so getting back on it will probably provide some clarity there.

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So the swamp ass leakage has been previously mentioned and I've noticed that I only seem to be afflicted with the condition when I'm at work. Weekends at home, 2 weeks of vacation, nothing. Come back to work and sure as hell, grunge butt from Hades. I love my office chair, had it for years, it's comfy but it's sucking the shit right out of me. wtf??

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I have had some windshield time over the last 25 years of post college.

First time I have ever quit on a trip. Took off from texarkana to st. Louis this morning at 530 and planned on driving back but got to little rock and crashing. Emergency trip for some equipment I wanted (bought it) and AA wanted almost 2G for the flight. F them on principle. Plus, stopped by 2 customers in STL so win.

While driving today, i was adding up mileage on all my past company vehicles since the mid 90s, I am about at 1.2 million miles and 800k on american airlines and SWA.

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6 hours ago, markstanco said:

I have had some windshield time over the last 25 years of post college.

First time I have ever quit on a trip. Took off from texarkana to st. Louis this morning at 530 and planned on driving back but got to little rock and crashing. Emergency trip for some equipment I wanted (bought it) and AA wanted almost 2G for the flight. F them on principle. Plus, stopped by 2 customers in STL so win.

While driving today, i was adding up mileage on all my past company vehicles since the mid 90s, I am about at 1.2 million miles and 800k on american airlines and SWA.

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I turned 43 last week and had my yearly physical. I did a full blood panel and everything came back great, except slight decrease in liver function. Well, my dumbass forgot about the blood test and had brisket for lunch 5 hours earlier that day. So the creatinine levels probably through off the test. I also probably take too much Advil for various injuries I have (back and shoulder), especially since I am back to training BJJ. Well, the doc had prescribed vicoprofen for me but when the kidney stuff showed up she said to immediately stop taking any ibuprofen. So I will go back and take another blood test next week just to make sure it was an anomaly.

She wrote me another prescription for Vicodin. It would be nice if I didn’t have to take any of this shit. Or if our government/companies would unfuck themselves and let people use cannabis.

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36 minutes ago, Patricio Swayze said:

I turned 43 last week and had my yearly physical. I did a full blood panel and everything came back great, except slight decrease in liver function. Well, my dumbass forgot about the blood test and had brisket for lunch 5 hours earlier that day. So the creatinine levels probably through off the test. I also probably take too much Advil for various injuries I have (back and shoulder), especially since I am back to training BJJ. Well, the doc had prescribed vicoprofen for me but when the kidney stuff showed up she said to immediately stop taking any ibuprofen. So I will go back and take another blood test next week just to make sure it was an anomaly.

She wrote me another prescription for Vicodin. It would be nice if I didn’t have to take any of this shit. Or if our government/companies would unfuck themselves and let people use cannabis.

Have you looked into CBD oil(s)?  My wife (no pics) is  looking into it.  She has various joint ailments.  She follows some homeopathic groups and they have recommended CBD for pain.  

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Have you looked into CBD oil(s)?  My wife (no pics) is  looking into it.  She has various joint ailments.  She follows some homeopathic groups and they have recommended CBD for pain.  

Yep. I’m all up in the CBD thread. Didn’t get any results with pure CBD. Got good results with full spectrum. Problem is, after a week of use, I tested positive on home test. Can’t chance it with my job.
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