Voter Suppression

[406W30th 1,111]

On 5/9/2020 at 4:32 PM, Message Board User said:

 

Ah! Well. Nevertheless,

[Biff Tannen 45,676]

I'm really starting to wonder what the reaction will be if dotard "wins" in November and it's clear the process was manipulated.  I can't imagine most people are going to just throw up their hands and have the "ah, well, nevertheless" reaction anymore.  We know that if dotard loses, his supporters will be all "rabble rabble rabble", but most likely not really do anything.  I don't think the rest of us will give up our democracy so easily.  It's going to be a really fascinating time.

[Jack Straw 2,954]

9 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I'm really starting to wonder what the reaction will be if dotard "wins" in November and it's clear the process was manipulated.  I can't imagine most people are going to just throw up their hands and have the "ah, well, nevertheless" reaction anymore.  We know that if dotard loses, his supporters will be all "rabble rabble rabble", but most likely not really do anything.  I don't think the rest of us will give up our democracy so easily.  It's going to be a really fascinating time.

I’d put the chances of Trump winning with manipulated results at well north of 80%.  And nothing of consequence will happen.  Sure, there will be lots of outrage, but a few months (or weeks) after the illegitimate “election”, the attention of the public and the media will have moved on to the next set of treason, criminality or abject failure by Trump and his Republican sycophants.  Everyone will be talking about how to replace Trump in 2024.  There haven’t been any meaningful consequences for any of it to date - so why would this be any different?  We passed the point where widespread violence is justified to remove Trump and other Republicans from office a long, long time ago.  Another rigged election will just be another thing that they can, and will, get away with.  

[Biff Tannen 45,676]

2 minutes ago, Jack Straw said:

I’d put the chances of Trump winning with manipulated results at well north of 80%.  And nothing of consequence will happen.  Sure, there will be lots of outrage, but a few months (or weeks) after the illegitimate “election”, the attention of the public and the media will have moved on to the next set of treason, criminality or abject failure by Trump and his Republican sycophants.  Everyone will be talking about how to replace Trump in 2024.  There haven’t been any meaningful consequences for any of it to date - so why would this be any different?  We passed the point where widespread violence is justified to remove Trump and other Republicans from office a long, long time ago.  Another rigged election will just be another thing that they can, and will, get away with.  

If this is what happens then it’s all over. I really think people aren’t going to tolerate the destruction of democracy any longer. But if I’m wrong in that sense, there will be a mass exodus out of this country. And I will probably be one of them. 

[Jack Straw 2,954]

8 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

 I really think people aren’t going to tolerate the destruction of democracy any longer.

I have had this thought at many, many points over the past three years.  And nothing really happens.  And then we all move on to the next thing.  

[tx 3 putt 76,906]

4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I'm really starting to wonder what the reaction will be if dotard "wins" in November and it's clear the process was manipulated.

2016 was manipulated, so it's easy to assume much of the same in 2020

[Biff Tannen 45,676]

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

2016 was manipulated, so it's easy to assume much of the same in 2020

Right, but I’m talking about internally. 

[tx 3 putt 76,906]

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Right, but I’m talking about internally. 

so am i 

[lemonlime 5,503]

4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

I'm really starting to wonder what the reaction will be if dotard "wins" in November and it's clear the process was manipulated.  

If?  I think it's when.  Hell the Republicans have been out there screaming about nonexistent voter fraud for years.  And thus getting Dems on camera saying repeatedly it doesn't exist.  Meanwhile the Republicans have been quietly and not so quietly rigging elections.

[StassneyHorn 6,575]

I want to believe if 3 out of 6 presidential elections end with the winner losing the popular vote and all being the same party, there’d be riots.

[Gengs1 2,583]

They gonna be burning the ballots like in Narcos Mexico, no one will care and they will just accept it.

[tx 3 putt 76,906]

3 minutes ago, Gengs1 said:

They gonna be burning the ballots like in Narcos Mexico, no one will care and they will just accept it.

russian hackers just need to flip some totals in the right precincts 

[BNB 100]

I want to be for mail in ballots.

Can someone tell me how they verify who is still alive and living at the current residence? When they send out the ballot, how do they keep them from being copied, etc? What verification process is there that it is an original ballot and that berson filled it out?

 

 

I tried to Google, but all I could find is information on how one votes by mail, but not the overall process.

Thanks.

 

 

[Lurch 5,930]

What good would a copy do? Why do we care if it’s a copy? That voter will count once. If someone were to copy it, one of the two will get tossed and authorities will investigate.

 

[lemonlime 5,503]

23 minutes ago, BNB said:

I want to be for mail in ballots.

Can someone tell me how they verify who is still alive and living at the current residence? When they send out the ballot, how do they keep them from being copied, etc? What verification process is there that it is an original ballot and that berson filled it out?

 

 

I tried to Google, but all I could find is information on how one votes by mail, but not the overall process.

Thanks.

 

 

We recently had an entirely mail in municipal election in my town.  The town mailed all registered voters a ballot.  Essentially, I placed the ballot in a sealed envelope and had to sign the envelope (there's signature matching once received) and the envelope also had a bar code such that they can check who returned ballots and that only 1 ballot per voter is returned.

[NWBuck 8,552]

3 hours ago, lemonlime said:

We recently had an entirely mail in municipal election in my town.  The town mailed all registered voters a ballot.  Essentially, I placed the ballot in a sealed envelope and had to sign the envelope (there's signature matching once received) and the envelope also had a bar code such that they can check who returned ballots and that only 1 ballot per voter is returned.

That's exactly how we do it in Washington State.  We also have ballot drop boxes around the city.

Now, I just want someone to figure out a way to make my TV stop showing campaign ads during sports after I've put my ballot in the mail.

[DigglerontheHoof 21,186]

On 5/16/2020 at 12:57 PM, Jack Straw said:

I’d put the chances of Trump winning with manipulated results at well north of 80%.  And nothing of consequence will happen.  Sure, there will be lots of outrage, but a few months (or weeks) after the illegitimate “election”, the attention of the public and the media will have moved on to the next set of treason, criminality or abject failure by Trump and his Republican sycophants.  Everyone will be talking about how to replace Trump in 2024.  There haven’t been any meaningful consequences for any of it to date - so why would this be any different?  We passed the point where widespread violence is justified to remove Trump and other Republicans from office a long, long time ago.  Another rigged election will just be another thing that they can, and will, get away with.  

Yep, that's why I've been on the ledge for a while.  This is the most likely scenario of all. 

[406W30th 1,111]

Sweeping Federal Lawsuit Seeks Election Changes in Wisconsin

 

[Buzzrock 14,918]

Republicans do not want Americans to vote 
Republicans are shitty people.
 

Did you read the transcript?

[Pancho 44,759]

6 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

 

Did you read the transcript?

 

I did.  I stand by my statement. 

[Buzzrock 14,918]

Ok with me. But the Twitter “headline” didn’t tell the whole story (as is often the case).

[ruitxn 296]

22 hours ago, lemonlime said:

We recently had an entirely mail in municipal election in my town.  The town mailed all registered voters a ballot.  Essentially, I placed the ballot in a sealed envelope and had to sign the envelope (there's signature matching once received) and the envelope also had a bar code such that they can check who returned ballots and that only 1 ballot per voter is returned.

Republicans know it can be done efficiently and safely.  That’s why they are against it.

[Voldemort86 2,259]

2 hours ago, 406W30th said:

Sweeping Federal Lawsuit Seeks Election Changes in Wisconsin

 

Being a Wisconsin Democrat must be extremely frustrating.

 

sorry bud.

[Jack Straw 2,954]

On 5/16/2020 at 8:35 PM, tx 3 putt said:

russian hackers just need to flip some totals in the right precincts 

and this time around they have the full support of the entire GOP to do it.  

[hpslugga 4,058]

On 8/21/2018 at 1:04 PM, atomheartbevo said:

If you wanted to help Cruz, start challenging poor people after faking address changes.  

Not surprised at all by anything Republicans do in Texas anymore.  They are scared shitless of brown and poor people.  

They're also scared of the educated.

[tx 3 putt 76,906]

Georgia is really next level when it comes to voter suppression. I fully expect Texas to pass a similar law, ASAP 

Georgia gov canceled an Supreme Court justice election and can appoint someone until the next general election in 2022. A justice is retiring after the 2020 general election date.

 

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/5/19/21262376/georgia-republicans-cancel-election-state-supreme-court-barrow-kemp-blackwell

 

[Biff Tannen 45,676]

5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Georgia is really next level when it comes to voter suppression. I fully expect Texas to pass a similar law, ASAP 

Georgia gov canceled an Supreme Court justice election and can appoint someone until the next general election in 2022. A justice is retiring after the 2020 general election date.

 

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/5/19/21262376/georgia-republicans-cancel-election-state-supreme-court-barrow-kemp-blackwell

 

Fuck Georgia.  Where you at Abrams?  Isn't this exactly what Fair Fight is supposed to be fighting?

[StassneyHorn 6,575]

Update on Texas vote by mail. Federal judge in SA says universal vote by mail can happen and anyone can apply. Says the age requirement is wack, his words not mine (my words). Will obviously be challenged

 

[WhatTheBuck 28,776]

9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Georgia is really next level when it comes to voter suppression. I fully expect Texas to pass a similar law, ASAP 

Georgia gov canceled an Supreme Court justice election and can appoint someone until the next general election in 2022. A justice is retiring after the 2020 general election date.

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/5/19/21262376/georgia-republicans-cancel-election-state-supreme-court-barrow-kemp-blackwell

I know the perfect project for Vice President Abrams. 

[immortal13 4,059]

On 5/16/2020 at 12:38 PM, Biff Tannen said:

I'm really starting to wonder what the reaction will be if dotard "wins" in November and it's clear the process was manipulated.  I can't imagine most people are going to just throw up their hands and have the "ah, well, nevertheless" reaction anymore.  We know that if dotard loses, his supporters will be all "rabble rabble rabble", but most likely not really do anything.  I don't think the rest of us will give up our democracy so easily.  It's going to be a really fascinating time.

What will you do? 

[elfenix 34,231]

16 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Update on Texas vote by mail. Federal judge in SA says universal vote by mail can happen and anyone can apply. Says the age requirement is wack, his words not mine (my words). Will obviously be challenged

 

texas supreme court gets bypassed, then.  we'll see what the 5th circuit says

[immortal13 4,059]

9 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Fuck Georgia.  Where you at Abrams?  

Baskin Robbins?

[elfenix 34,231]

domer has tagged out and now it's immortal's turn

[Buzzrock 14,918]

Abrams is a loser and a hack. She’s too chickenshit to run for anything else because she knows if she loses again she’ll be forgotten. For now she can milk her martyr status for as long as possible. Her lobbying to be VP is pathetic, Biden doesn’t want that baggage. He should pick Harris. 

[Voldemort86 2,259]

7 hours ago, elfenix said:

texas supreme court gets bypassed, then.  we'll see what the 5th circuit says

Man I would love to vote by mail because it’s common sense with the corona virus lurking around.

im not getting my hopes up tho. Ken “indictment” Paxton is going to do all he can to squash this.

[Voldemort86 2,259]

Heard about some drama in Michigan today.

supposedly the state has agreed to send every single registered voter a ballot for the election this fall. Guess I’m waiting for morbidly obese trump to step in and try to get it overturned.

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13,582]

9 hours ago, immortal13 said:

What will you do? 

Your mom.

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Your mom.

The classics never go out of style.

[Longhorn 145]

On 5/16/2020 at 5:27 PM, StassneyHorn said:

I want to believe if 3 out of 6 presidential elections end with the winner losing the popular vote and all being the same party, there’d be riots.

When do you think people will catch on start to riot over the fact that California and New York have the same number of senators as Wyoming or Alabama?

[Chuckie Finster 22,694]

5 hours ago, Voldemort86 said:

Heard about some drama in Michigan today.

supposedly the state has agreed to send every single registered voter a ballot for the election this fall. Guess I’m waiting for morbidly obese trump to step in and try to get it overturned.

 

[Upgrayedd 5,810]

8 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

Reportedly they are ballot requests, not actual ballots.  Unsurprisingly.

[hpslugga 4,058]

1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

You really have to admire this loser’s use of capital letters on voter fraud as if it was even a real issue.

This is just like when Bibi took to Israeli TV Land in one of his recent elections. He was imploring the Jews to get out and vote because the Arabs were voting in impressive numbers. 

[tx 3 putt 76,906]

1 hour ago, Upgrayedd said:

Reportedly they are ballot requests, not actual ballots.  Unsurprisingly.

Correct, applications to request a mail in ballot 

[4th&Five 41,525]

 

[hayden_horn 11,362]

because of course they did:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/20/federal-appeals-court-temporarily-blocks-voting-mail-expansion-texas/

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A federal appeals court has temporarily put on hold a lower court’s sweeping ruling that would have allowed all Texas voters to qualify to vote by mail during the coronavirus pandemic.

Siding with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, a three-judge panel of the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday blocked a preliminary injunction issued just a day before by U.S. District Judge Fred Biery. The panel granted what's known as an administrative stay, which stops Biery's ruling from taking effect while the court considers if it will issue an injunction nullifying it during the entire appeals process.

Biery’s ruling covered Texas voters "who seek to vote by mail to avoid transmission of the virus” under the age of 65 who would ordinarily not qualify for mail-in ballots. The appeals court’s action reverts the state to existing qualifications that limit absentee ballots to voters who are 65 years or older. Texans under 65 can only qualify for a mail-in ballot if they cite a disability or illness, if they’ll be out of the county during the election period, or are confined in jail.

It’s the latest in a legal tennis match that in the last week alone has twice opened and then shut the door on a massive expansion in absentee voting in Texas as federal and state courts consider challenges to the state’s rules for mail-in voting. The issue is likely on a path to the U.S. Supreme Court as Texas Republican officials continue to resist expanding voting by mail during the pandemic in contrast to officials in other states, including several led by Republicans.

The Texas Tribune thanks its sponsors. Become one.

 

[Buzzrock 14,918]

Man I would love to vote by mail because it’s common sense with the corona virus lurking around.
im not getting my hopes up tho. Ken “indictment” Paxton is going to do all he can to squash this.

It’s interesting but it does present some challenges. Don’t know about Texas but in Georgia the ballots can’t be opened until election day. Do now you have to open and count hundreds of thousands of ballots by hand starting on election day.

[Voldemort86 2,259]

57 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

 

It’s interesting but it does present some challenges. Don’t know about Texas but in Georgia the ballots can’t be opened until election day. Do now you have to open and count hundreds of thousands of ballots by hand starting on election day.

 

That’s so dumb. They should be opened, verified, read, then counted as they come in.

[tx 3 putt 76,906]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

 

It’s interesting but it does present some challenges. Don’t know about Texas but in Georgia the ballots can’t be opened until election day. Do now you have to open and count hundreds of thousands of ballots by hand starting on election day.

 

In Texas the early voting and absentee vote results are ready as soon as the polls close 

[Brisketexan 105,096]

because of course they did:
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/20/federal-appeals-court-temporarily-blocks-voting-mail-expansion-texas/

A federal appeals court has temporarily put on hold a lower court’s sweeping ruling that would have allowed all Texas voters to qualify to vote by mail during the coronavirus pandemic.
Siding with Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton, a three-judge panel of the U.S. 5th Circuit Court of Appeals on Wednesday blocked a preliminary injunction issued just a day before by U.S. District Judge Fred Biery. The panel granted what's known as an administrative stay, which stops Biery's ruling from taking effect while the court considers if it will issue an injunction nullifying it during the entire appeals process.
Biery’s ruling covered Texas voters "who seek to vote by mail to avoid transmission of the virus” under the age of 65 who would ordinarily not qualify for mail-in ballots. The appeals court’s action reverts the state to existing qualifications that limit absentee ballots to voters who are 65 years or older. Texans under 65 can only qualify for a mail-in ballot if they cite a disability or illness, if they’ll be out of the county during the election period, or are confined in jail.
It’s the latest in a legal tennis match that in the last week alone has twice opened and then shut the door on a massive expansion in absentee voting in Texas as federal and state courts consider challenges to the state’s rules for mail-in voting. The issue is likely on a path to the U.S. Supreme Court as Texas Republican officials continue to resist expanding voting by mail during the pandemic in contrast to officials in other states, including several led by Republicans.
The Texas Tribune thanks its sponsors. Become one.

 

The 5th circuit has given up on being a legitimate, respectable court, in favor of being just another partisan tool that employs (wait for it, the irony) shameless judicial activism. It’s a damned shame.

[Nope 3,114]

I don’t understand why the GOP is fighting the mail-in vote thing so hard, when Trump installed one of his lackeys as postmaster general.
 

Shouldn’t they have a decided schematic advantage?