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This is how fucked up all of this is: this is pretty much the only CR thread with no GRHorn or Donkey or Don Johnson or Johnny Sack, etc. playing the both sides card or trolling or telling everyone th

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One thing that strikes me is tha lack of voices here or elsewhere to defend against this worst act against democracy. Sure, you're against the abuse of FISA warrants. Me too! We should totally ha

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Today's Wisconsin vote will go down as one of the most shameful episodes in the post-civil rights era.  And it is 100% on the GOP.  This is their baby -- they INSIST on in-person voting in the middle

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And South Carolina issues the first fuck off to Republicans

Judges rule South Carolina racially gerrymandered U.S. House district


https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/judges-rule-south-carolina-racially-gerrymandered-u-s-house-district
They will have til March to fix this.

You’re adorable. They’ll appeal it up the SCOTUS, which will shadow docket stay the ruling, and then when it gets there on the merits, Ginni Thomas will write an opinion that not only was it not racially gerrymandered, they were obligated to draw it that way because Italian satellites stole the last POTUS election for Biden. Clarence will submit it, Roberts will masturbate over it, and it will go out as a 6-3 opinion.
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Secretary of Secretary?

Damn right, and he was appointed by the Commission on Commissions to investigate the Florida Association of Organizations.  This internet thing is gonna kill all of us except Trump, isn't it?  

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Georgia Republicans race to pass laws to restrict and challenge votes
 

…in addition, they’re looking to pass some stop Fani Willis laws. If the numbers don’t work for these Republicans and they do everything in their power to mitigate their impact, why are they so opposed to Democrats manipulating the SC numbers to work for them?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/georgia-republicans-race-pass-laws-110025601.html

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…in addition, they’re looking to pass some stop Fani Willis laws.

https://www.ajc.com/politics/republicans-demand-oversight-of-prosecutors-amid-trump-probe/J66M244PMNBXTBXSIKJYWBXMVY/

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Republicans demand oversight of prosecutors amid Trump probe

By Greg Bluestein, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

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The Georgia House approved a measure to create a new state board that could punish or oust district attorneys, the latest step in an ongoing campaign by Republicans to exert oversight over prosecutors they see as skirting their duties.

The measure passed the House 98-75 on Monday over the objections of Democrats and prominent prosecutors. Among them is Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis, who is leading an ongoing probe of Donald Trump and has framed the proposals as racist and reactionary.

Republicans have rallied around the overhaul as a way to rein in “rogue prosecutors” who they see as ineffective or inept. Supporters often bring up liberal district attorneys who have declined to enforce low-level drug offenses and other violations.

“The purpose behind this has been distorted,” said Republican state Rep. Houston Gaines, R-Athens. He added, “Lives truly are at stake.”

Intertwined in the debate is Willis, who is weighing whether to bring charges against Trump and his allies for meddling in the 2020 election.

While sponsors of the measures say her probe has nothing to do with the legislation — and previous versions have indeed been debated for years — Willis frames it as part of a broader effort to retaliate against her and other prosecutors representing Democratic strongholds.

“I think it’s targeting me and maybe people with similar ideologies,” Willis said in a recent interview, “and wanting to replace it for ideologies that don’t represent the majority of the state’s population.”

Powerful Republicans have put it on the fast track. The Georgia Senate has passed a similar version, and the effort is backed by both Gov. Brian Kemp and Lt. Gov. Burt Jones. Nearly two dozen prosecutors recently signed a letter backing the creation of the panel.

“Prosecutors are not legislatures. We do not create laws. We seek justice for violations of Georgia’s laws. We believe prosecutors that decline to enforce a provision of law or an entire body of law go too far,” states the letter, signed by a group of mostly Republican prosecutors, which said they have a duty to assess each case by its merits.

“This is not appropriate prosecutorial discretion because there is no consideration as to the facts and circumstances of the specific case,” it added.

The bills also have become a favorite of far-right figures aiming to sully Willis’ probe. U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Rome has encouraged Republicans to back the measures, and Trump praised the legislative proposals in a post Sunday on his social media platform.

‘The people elected us’

Under House Bill 231, members of the newly created five-member commission would be appointed by the Georgia Supreme Court.

The panel would be empowered to investigate and punish the state’s 50 district attorneys and solicitors general for a range of violations, including “willful misconduct” in office. And backers say the panel would pursue prosecutors on both sides of the aisle.

“There are Republican problems and there are Democrat problems,” said state Rep. Joseph Gullet, R-Acworth. “But this is nonpartisan in my mind.”

Opponents of the measure, who include almost all Democrats in the chamber, said there are already layers of accountability baked into the law, including oversight by the State Bar of Georgia and a little-used provision that allows the General Assembly to remove prosecutors.

They warned of creeping efforts to weaken local control, including a separate measure that has so far failed to gain traction that would significantly lower the number of signatures needed to recall a district attorney.

“Why are we spending taxpayer money to create another level of government when there are already provisions to address prosecutorial oversight?” Democratic state Rep. Shea Roberts asked. “This is dangerous territory.”

State Rep. Mesha Mainor was the only Democrat to speak in favor of the measure. Mainor, a victim of stalking, criticized unnamed prosecutors for being “numb” to cases of violence and abuse against women.

”Prosecutors can silence people’s voice from every being heard. How would you feel as a crime victim?” the Atlanta legislator asked. “Victims don’t care about party affiliation. They want help.”

The effort’s Republican supporters often invoke recent stories of disgraced prosecutors, including former Paulding County District Attorney Dick Donovan, a Republican who stepped down from office after pleading guilty to a misconduct charge.

Another impetus for sponsors is Athens-Clarke County District Attorney Deborah Gonzalez, who has suffered an exodus of rank-and-file attorneys since she took office. She’s also among a growing group of liberal prosecutors who decline to bring charges for certain drug offenses.

From the floor of the House, Gaines listed a string of serious offenses that he said were dropped because of the “incompetence” of Gonzalez.

In an interview, Gonzalez called the bills an “overstep where the Legislature is coming in and trying to undo the will of the people.”

“The people elected us and we are doing what they wanted,” Gonzalez said. “It might not be what the legislators would agree with, but that’s not their call.”

 

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How can the people who wave the biggest flags and have "America #1" bumper stickers support politicians and policies that are openly contemptuous of democracy and the principle that everyone has an equal right to vote?

 

 

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How can the people who wave the biggest flags and have "America #1" bumper stickers support politicians and policies that are openly contemptuous of democracy and the principle that everyone has an equal right to vote?

Because staying in power is the only thing that matters to them.

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How can the people who wave the biggest flags and have "America #1" bumper stickers support politicians and policies that are openly contemptuous of democracy and the principle that everyone has an equal right to vote?

 

 

Because everyone shouldn't have the right to vote... Only "us 'Mericans"

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66024827

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The US Supreme Court has opened the door to the creation of a new majority-black district in the state of Louisiana in a closely watched voting rights case.

The top court lifted a hold on a lower court case that could result in Louisiana redrawing its electoral map. Lower courts had ruled that the maps raised concerns that black voting power had been diluted in the state. Nearly a third of residents in the state are black.

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It is the second significant voting rights case decided by the Supreme Court this term. On 8 June, its justices ordered another southern state, Alabama, to redraw its congressional district maps to allow for an additional majority-black district. Monday's ruling means that Louisiana may have to redraw its US House of Representatives district map to provide more representation for black voters.

The Supreme Court justices implied the matter should be resolved "in advance of the 2024 congressional elections in Louisiana". The case now returns to the US Court of Appeals for the Fifth Circuit.

 

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MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Alabama Republicans, under orders of the U.S. Supreme Court to redraw congressional districts to give minority voters a greater voice in elections, rejected calls Monday to craft a second majority-Black district and proposed a map testing the judges’ directive.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-republicans-despite-supreme-court-203946698.html

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MONTGOMERY, Ala. — Alabama Republicans, under orders of the U.S. Supreme Court to redraw congressional districts to give minority voters a greater voice in elections, rejected calls Monday to craft a second majority-Black district and proposed a map testing the judges’ directive.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-republicans-despite-supreme-court-203946698.html

We can all get angry, but at least the GOP no longer tries to hide its institutional racism.

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On 6/5/2023 at 12:47 PM, Paper_jam said:

How can the people who wave the biggest flags and have "America #1" bumper stickers support politicians and policies that are openly contemptuous of democracy and the principle that everyone has an equal right to vote?

 

 

Bigotry.

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On 7/23/2023 at 2:20 PM, StassneyHorn said:

More on Alabama thumbing their nose and not giving a second majority black district. 

 

Shots fired.  What's SCOTUS going to do about it?  Republican states openly stating they don't have to follow rules if they disagree with them--so much for law and order (yet again).  That is essentially what state rights mean to Southern states, and I'm glad they're pulling this card well in advance of the' 24 election.  If they are openly in contempt of the highest court on this, moving forward, they will openly challenge everything else they disagree with as well.  Is SCOTUS going to ignore this or attempt to capitulate to their demands of open voter suppression?  As they like to say--Fuck Your Feelings (rights, votes, rulings, laws).  This is a direct challenge to America as a Democracy--let's see how the Supreme Court treats it. The world is watching.

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Shots fired.  What's SCOTUS going to do about it?  Republican states openly stating they don't have to follow rules if they disagree with them--so much for law and order (yet again).  That is essentially what state rights mean to Southern states, and I'm glad they're pulling this card well in advance of the' 24 election.  If they are openly in contempt of the highest court on this, moving forward, they will openly challenge everything else they disagree with as well.  Is SCOTUS going to ignore this or attempt to capitulate to their demands of open voter suppression?  As they like to say--Fuck Your Feelings (rights, votes, rulings, laws).  This is a direct challenge to America as a Democracy--let's see how the Supreme Court treats it. The world is watching.

Isn’t this what Bibi is codifying in Israel? Forget the courts. political rulers will do as the please.

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Shots fired.  What's SCOTUS going to do about it?  Republican states openly stating they don't have to follow rules if they disagree with them--so much for law and order (yet again).  That is essentially what state rights mean to Southern states, and I'm glad they're pulling this card well in advance of the' 24 election.  If they are openly in contempt of the highest court on this, moving forward, they will openly challenge everything else they disagree with as well.  Is SCOTUS going to ignore this or attempt to capitulate to their demands of open voter suppression?  As they like to say--Fuck Your Feelings (rights, votes, rulings, laws).  This is a direct challenge to America as a Democracy--let's see how the Supreme Court treats it. The world is watching.

Don’t think it’s going to end well for Alabama in August when the court reviews the maps. I guess Alabama still had to try and do anything they could to “own the libs” tho. That seems to be all the party of “family values” really cares about.

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Don’t think it’s going to end well for Alabama in August when the court reviews the maps. I guess Alabama still had to try and do anything they could to “own the libs” tho. That seems to be all the party of “family values” really cares about.

They are like Greg Abbott - they don't care if they get slapped down, as long as they can claim they are fighting the woke mob.  Being slapped down is even better, because they make more in donations from people being angry about it, as they tell everybody they are martys.

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Janet Protasiewicz assumed office today in Wisconsin. Abortion rights, election laws, redistricting, and union rights all looking at a 4-3 Dem majority. Hope to see action soon on redistricting at a congressional level and state lege

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Harris County GOP in court this week trying to overturn a 2020 election where a gop candidate lost by 2,700 votes. Here’s the the Chronicle breakdown of an exchange between the GOP so-called election data expert and the defense:

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One of their [GOP’s] witnesses, Steve Carlin, a business and technology consultant, analyzed thousands of Harris County voter records and determined that many should be thrown out for numerous reasons, such as voter addresses that are incomplete, non-residential or located outside the county.

The defense team grilled Carlin on his findings, reviewing flagged voter records one-by-one on a big screen and pulling up the corresponding entries on the Harris County Appraisal District website. 

Carlin repeatedly conceded that the addresses in those records appeared to be valid. One of the flagged voters shared Carlin's last name. The defense asked if they were related.

"Let's hope not," Carlin said.

After reviewing dozens of the flagged records, defense attorney Sadi Antonmattei-Goitia asked: "So your job is to throw big numbers and have someone come and prove you wrong? Is that your methodology?" 

"That's a reasonable description."

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/houston/article/harris-county-election-contest-trial-18279027.php
 

Surprising that an expert witness is allowed to continue testifying when all of his expert data is shown to be incorrectly interpreted. But then again maybe the judge is willing to let one side make a fool of themselves.

The article also points out that the plaintiff hasn’t found 1 voter who is willing to testify that some voting issues kept them voting. The plaintiff and larger gop county party are basically arguing that because it’s hypothetically possible that some people weren’t allowed to vote, a whole new election needs to be held.

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11 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Surprising that an expert witness is allowed to continue testifying when all of his expert data is shown to be incorrectly interpreted. But then again maybe the judge is willing to let one side make a fool of themselves.

The bolded is the bulletproof strategy to end up with a result that stands up on appeal.  "Hey, the judge let the dumbfucks' expert testify, we don't have to guess about whether he WOULD have offered evidence that didn't prove shit.....he offered and ADMITTED that he didn't offer evidence that proved shit."

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The bolded is the bulletproof strategy to end up with a result that stands up on appeal.  "Hey, the judge let the dumbfucks' expert testify, we don't have to guess about whether he WOULD have offered evidence that didn't prove shit.....he offered and ADMITTED that he didn't offer evidence that proved shit."

wait, are you saying that if a lawyer is so laughingly incompetent that there is some onus on the judge to intervene? do I have that right? I'm beginning to think the stories of how hard it is to become a lawyer are absurdly exaggerated 

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wait, are you saying that if a lawyer is so laughingly incompetent that there is some onus on the judge to intervene? do I have that right? I'm beginning to think the stories of how hard it is to become a lawyer are absurdly exaggerated 

What stories are these?

Three extra years of school and a 2.5 day test that isn't that hard.

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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What stories are these?

Three extra years of school and a 2.5 day test that isn't that hard.

fuck, for architecture I had to do a 5-year program, apprentice for at least 3 years, and take 24 hours worth of tests. do you even have to do continuing education?

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