Voter Suppression

[Bookman 4754]

If Election Day was a holiday, I think a lot of people would take the day off and not vote.

If I were in charge I'd give my employees 2-3 hours paid leave to vote.

[CooterBrown 18272]

If Election Day was a holiday, I think a lot of people would take the day off and not vote.
If I were in charge I'd give my employees 2-3 hours paid leave to vote.

Gotta close all stores, bars, lakes, beaches, etc. if you make it a holiday. No way the average American votes on a holiday.

Now, the way to do it, is to hand each voter a $100 government check as they walk out of the voting booth. That’d easily get us to over 80% participation.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

I’ve always agreed with the above.  Time is not the bottleneck for low voter participation.  It is apathy and procedure.  Cure apathy, make voting easier, voting rates will go up. 
 

you might even see it go down.  We talk about long lines on here all the time.  If we had a dedicated day for voting, it would induce people to wait until that day to vote instead of earlier voting, concentrating people to a single moment.  So now you have people that ordinarily would have voted being discouraged from voting. 

[Biff Tannen 46060]

Not sure where to really put this, but one of the more underhanded and unnoticed dismantlings of an important institution.

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/907984631/at-voice-of-america-trump-appointee-sought-political-influence-over-coverage

 

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At the Voice of America, staffers say the Trump appointee leading their parent agency is threatening to wash away legal protections intended to insulate their news reports from political meddling.

 

[SydneyCarton 49325]

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

Gotta close all stores, bars, lakes, beaches, etc. if you make it a holiday. No way the average American votes on a holiday.

Now, the way to do it, is to hand each voter a $100 government check as they walk out of the voting booth. That’d easily get us to over 80% participation.

You think we should spend 33 Billion dollars a year getting people to vote? Sorry, lets go with 26.4 Billion, or 80%. You think that's not only feasible, but will be accepted by the general public as a good use of tax dollars and resources?

 

Also outside of the complications of it being a check, needing to have a checking account (not all poor do) and whatnot, there's the fact lots of folks will vote as many times as possible and not give a fuck if their vote gets thrown out and dare the courts to arrest and charge them with a felony. Then you're crowding up the courts, etc. Seems like an imperfect decision at best after the 15 seconds of thought I've given it. 

Edited September 3, 2020 by SydneyCarton

[SameSame 1745]

4 hours ago, CooterBrown said:

Gotta close all stores, bars, lakes, beaches, etc. if you make it a holiday. No way the average American votes on a holiday.

Now, the way to do it, is to hand each voter a $100 government check as they walk out of the voting booth. That’d easily get us to over 80% participation.

I disagree,  I think people would take full advantage of it and not have the stress of having to try to squeeze in time off of work without knowing how long it will take.

That has always been a real choice people who are paid by the hour and live paycheck to paycheck have to make, and it drives down the collective say from those that need it the most.
 

I don’t think lakes and beaches on Election Day in November would be overrun any more than usual.  People completely skipping voting for the president to go to the lake, are probably the type that we are all better off with not voting anyway.

And it’s not taking away early voting if you want to make plans.

[HenryJames 67115]

 

[Pancho 46050]

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

20 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Of course Brian Kemp stole the election. That was obvious in real time. 
 

As for this year, Georgia is by far the most likely state the republicans will steal again both for trump and the 2 senate seats. It’s a white v. Black thing and Georgia is tied with Alabama for most racist state in the nation after Mississippi of course. I think I’m some aspects Georgia beats out bama on that but it’s really really close. 

Edited September 7, 2020 by JimmyJames

[Biff Tannen 46060]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Of course Brian Kemp stole the election. That was obvious in real time. 
 

As for this year, Georgia is by far the most likely state the republicans will steal again both for trump and the 2 senate seats. It’s a white v. Black thing and Georgia is tied with Alabama for most racist state in the nation after Mississippi of course. I think I’m some aspects Georgia beats out bama on that but it’s really really close. 

Yep. This is not new. 

[tx 3 putt 78468]

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

 

he needs to be in prison, 5 years or so 

[Pancho 46050]

2 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Of course Brian Kemp stole the election. That was obvious in real time. 
 

As for this year, Georgia is by far the most likely state the republicans will steal again both for trump and the 2 senate seats. It’s a white v. Black thing and Georgia is tied with Alabama for most racist state in the nation after Mississippi of course. I think I’m some aspects Georgia beats out bama on that but it’s really really close. 

I’d rank it:

1.) Mississippi 

2.) Alabama

3.) Kentucky

4.) Louisiana 

5.) Texas A&M

6.) Georgia

[SydneyCarton 49325]

Is there restitution they can sue for?

[Biff Tannen 46060]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

Is there restitution they can sue for?

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

I’d rank it:

1.) Mississippi 

2.) Alabama

3.) Kentucky

4.) Louisiana 

5.) Texas A&M

6.) Georgia

Good list except Louisiana is behind aggy and Georgia. Being dumb is not completely the same thing as being racist. 

[lemonlime 5503]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

I’d rank it:

1.) Mississippi 

2.) Alabama

3.) Kentucky

4.) Louisiana 

5.) Texas A&M

6.) Georgia

Florida needs to be on that list somewhere.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, lemonlime said:

Florida needs to be on that list somewhere.

It’s the most racist list. Not the most dumbass list. Florida is number one on that.

[lemonlime 5503]

39 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

It’s the most racist list. Not the most dumbass list. Florida is number one on that.

Florida belongs on both lists.  It's racist AF.  And also filled with dumbasses.

[atomheartbevo 90544]

10 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Of course Brian Kemp stole the election. That was obvious in real time. 

As for this year, Georgia is by far the most likely state the republicans will steal again both for trump and the 2 senate seats. It’s a white v. Black thing and Georgia is tied with Alabama for most racist state in the nation after Mississippi of course. I think I’m some aspects Georgia beats out bama on that but it’s really really close. 

I see you've never been to North Dakota, or at least weren't a minority, or with a minority there.   I even lived in Mississippi for a few years when I was little, and several moves later, North Dakota, and ND was far more racist - first and only time I ever heard one white person calling another white person  "n----- lover" and I was the one being called that because we oilfield kids (doodlebugger kids ftw) were sticking together.  Those motherfuckers should have been overjoyed that our parents were there doing some serious oil exploration, since some of them were going to get a nice payday out of it, but nope, plenty of them fucking loathed the fact that our parent's crew had brought a lot of Blacks and Hispanics with us from Texas, OK, Arkansas, LA, etc. and that meant a handful of Black and Hispanic kids.  They hated us as much for hanging with them, as they hated them.

I fucking hated the state, but I did learn a helluva lot really fast about a lot of things that my parents had managed to shield me from.

[SydneyCarton 49325]

Not sure is it  belongs here or USPS Thread, but I mailed in my wife and my applications for an absentee ballot in late July. Still haven’t received our ballots in Houston. 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

“U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia on Tuesday ruled the state’s process for determining whether there is a mismatch between a voter’s signature on their ballot envelope and the signature the voter used on their application to vote by mail “plainly violates certain voters’ constitutional rights.”

In his order, Garcia ordered the Texas secretary of state to inform local election officials within 10 days that it is unconstitutional to reject a ballot based on a "perceived signature mismatch" without first notifying the voter about the mismatch and giving the voter a “meaningful opportunity” to correct the issue.”

 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Not sure is it  belongs here or USPS Thread, but I mailed in my wife and my applications for an absentee ballot in late July. Still haven’t received our ballots in Houston. 

When will I get my ballot? 

There is no specific date, but there are rules counties must follow. If your county elections office receives your application to vote by mail more than 45 days before Election Day, the county must send your ballot at least 30 days out from the election. Some counties are aiming to get the ballots out sooner, but they can't send them until the entire county ballot — from the race for president to local water districts — is certified.

If your application is received after the 45-day mark, the county must mail out your ballot within seven days of approving your application.
 

HARRIS COUNTY

County Clerk

Christopher G. Hollins

1001 Preston Houston, TX 77002 

P.O. Box 1148, Houston 77251-1148

County Email Address

(713) 755-6411

FAX: (713) 755-4977

Submit your Application for Ballot By Mail (ABBM) via email

Submit your Federal Postcard Application (FPCA) via email

[SydneyCarton 49325]

1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

When will I get my ballot? 

There is no specific date, but there are rules counties must follow. If your county elections office receives your application to vote by mail more than 45 days before Election Day, the county must send your ballot at least 30 days out from the election. Some counties are aiming to get the ballots out sooner, but they can't send them until the entire county ballot — from the race for president to local water districts — is certified.

If your application is received after the 45-day mark, the county must mail out your ballot within seven days of approving your application.
 

HARRIS COUNTY

County Clerk

Christopher G. Hollins

1001 Preston Houston, TX 77002 

P.O. Box 1148, Houston 77251-1148

County Email Address

(713) 755-6411

FAX: (713) 755-4977

Submit your Application for Ballot By Mail (ABBM) via email

Submit your Federal Postcard Application (FPCA) via email

So by October 3rd. With the USPS in tatters that doesn’t feel like enough. 
 

I mean we’re voting in person because I don’t trust shit, but it’s going to be a fun litmus test to watch. 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

You can drop the ballots off in person, early at the clerks office

[SydneyCarton 49325]

4 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You can drop the ballots off in person, early at the clerks office

Oh I know. I just prefer to stick to digital. 

[HenryJames 67115]

 

[HenryJames 67115]

 

[heso 2848]

On 9/3/2020 at 7:56 AM, Bookman said:

If Election Day was a holiday, I think a lot of people would take the day off and not vote.

If I were in charge I'd give my employees 2-3 hours paid leave to vote.

I think that’s a good way to do it. We just got word that everyone at my company is going to get a half day pto for voting related activities, whether that be actually voting or volunteering to assist voting in some way. 

[Voldemort86 2259]

1 hour ago, HenryJames said:

 

It’s really disgusting how some republicans like that fat bitch in Wisconsin are trying to exploit kanye west for political gain.

 

the guy obviously has some serious mental problems.

[elfenix 34658]

16 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

“U.S. District Judge Orlando Garcia on Tuesday ruled the state’s process for determining whether there is a mismatch between a voter’s signature on their ballot envelope and the signature the voter used on their application to vote by mail “plainly violates certain voters’ constitutional rights.”

In his order, Garcia ordered the Texas secretary of state to inform local election officials within 10 days that it is unconstitutional to reject a ballot based on a "perceived signature mismatch" without first notifying the voter about the mismatch and giving the voter a “meaningful opportunity” to correct the issue.”

 

Like I want some armchair expert deciding which of my shitty signatures is real and which is fake

Edited September 9, 2020 by elfenix

[Jive Turkey 12930]

 

[tx 3 putt 78468]

10 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

 

 

trump didn't win in 2016 on his own 

[GopherRock 1773]

Breaking this afternoon out of Planet Cheese:

 

 

[Biff Tannen 46060]

Fuck you Wisconsin.  God dammit.

[Voldemort86 2259]

1 hour ago, GopherRock said:

Breaking this afternoon out of Planet Cheese:

 

 

Wisconsin republicans are comparable to people from the dark ages who loved to torture people to death and make their families watch,

those people are shameless. They will do anything to “ own the libs” and they don’t care how bad it looks. They will just fucking do it. 
 

 

[WhatTheBuck 28904]

The Green Party seems like they sort of suck. 

[Fudge Nuggets 19407]

On 9/9/2020 at 10:33 AM, heso said:

I think that’s a good way to do it. We just got word that everyone at my company is going to get a half day pto for voting related activities, whether that be actually voting or volunteering to assist voting in some way. 

This country is so bassakwards.

[Voldemort86 2259]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/10/court-blocks-trump-census-order-on-undocumented-immigrants-412052
 

Trump loses battle in court. He was trying to “ not count” illegals in the census and have them not count toward house seats when they are re-apportioned after the census count. 
 

should be a relief for California. 

[StassneyHorn 6755]

Georgia State Election Board is ass my dude

“The State Election Board passed a rule Tuesday that sets thresholds for how scanners count absentee ballots in Georgia, discarding votes that fill in less than 10% of an oval.

The rule means that votes marked as check marks or X’s outside ovals won’t necessarily be recorded.“

https://www.ajc.com/politics/new-absentee-ballot-rule-requires-georgia-voters-to-fill-in-ovals/265T2QPP6JFDTGQY4SCPWKFLDU/

[Fudge Nuggets 19407]

1 hour ago, GopherRock said:

Breaking this afternoon out of Planet Cheese:

 

 

I thought that election at the height of the pandemic was for a judge spot that swung it back towards the Dems?   Obviously not.

[Pasken 1310]

16 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I thought that election at the height of the pandemic was for a judge spot that swung it back towards the Dems?   Obviously not.

If they order the ballots have to be reprinted to add the Green Party or Kayne then there won't be any absentee voting in Wisconsin. 

[GopherRock 1773]

1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I thought that election at the height of the pandemic was for a judge spot that swung it back towards the Dems?   Obviously not.

I think it only got the Court back to 4-3, correct me if I'm wrong. 

[Pancho 46050]

I’ll take it 

 

[elfenix 34658]

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The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit in Atlanta agreed with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) that the payment of fines and fees by felons is part of their “terms of sentence” and must be satisfied before they can register.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/florida-felon-voting/2020/09/11/9a6b5d3a-f45e-11ea-bc45-e5d48ab44b9f_story.html

[Biff Tannen 46060]

20 hours ago, Voldemort86 said:

Wisconsin republicans are comparable to people from the dark ages who loved to torture people to death and make their families watch,

those people are shameless. They will do anything to “ own the libs” and they don’t care how bad it looks. They will just fucking do it. 
 

 

fixed

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

20 hours ago, Pasken said:

If they order the ballots have to be reprinted to add the Green Party or Kayne then there won't be any absentee voting in Wisconsin. 

I believe there are about a dozen different type of machines used in Wisconsin polling places but greater than 85% of locations either have paper ballots or an optical scan paper ballot. Hope everything is on the up and up.

[Jive Turkey 12930]

 

 

[Biff Tannen 46060]

3 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

 

 

So that is California?  Aren't the ballot request forms supposed to come from the state?  If so, who at the state level is allowing that?

[Jive Turkey 12930]

The guy who tweeted it out may be from California. I couldn’t tell where the chick lives. I’m guessing a southern state. 

[Celery Man 21076]

5 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

 

 

Rude ass, even.