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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-plane/thirteen-killed-after-russian-passenger-plane-crash-lands-in-moscow-idUSKCN1SB0IK

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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Forty-one people on board a Russian Aeroflot passenger plane were killed on Sunday, including two children, after the aircraft caught fire as it made a bumpy emergency landing at a Moscow airport, Russian investigators said.

Television footage showed the Sukhoi Superjet 100 crash bouncing along the tarmac at Moscow’s Sheremetyevo airport before the rear part of the plane suddenly burst into flames.

Many passengers on board SU 1492 then escaped via the plane’s emergency slides that inflated after the hard landing.

The plane, which had been flying from Moscow to the northern Russian city of Murmansk, had been carrying 73 passengers and five crew members, Russia’s aviation watchdog said.

Svetlana Petrenko, a spokeswoman for Russia’s Investigative Committee, said in a statement that only 37 out of 78 people on board had survived, meaning 41 people had lost their lives.

No official cause has been given for the disaster.

The Investigative Committee said it had opened an investigation and was looking into whether the pilots had breached air safety rules.

Some passengers blamed bad weather and lightning.

“We took off and then lightning struck the plane,” the Komsomolskaya Pravda daily cited one surviving passenger, Pyotr Egorov, as saying.

“The plane turned back and there was a hard landing. We were so scared, we almost lost consciousness. The plane jumped down the landing strip like a grasshopper and then caught fire on the ground.”

State TV broadcast mobile phone footage shot by another passenger in which people could be heard screaming.

President Vladimir Putin and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev expressed their condolences and ordered investigators to establish what had happened.

The Interfax news agency cited an unnamed “informed source” as saying the evacuation of the plane had been delayed by some passengers insisting on collecting their hand luggage first.

Russian news agencies reported that injured passengers were being treated in hospitals.

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The Flightradar24 tracking service showed that the plane had circled twice over Moscow before making an emergency landing after just under 30 minutes in the air.

The plane’s under-carriage gave way on impact and its engines caught fire.

Interfax cited a source as saying the plane had only succeeded making an emergency landing on the second attempt and that some of the aircraft’s systems had then failed.

The emergency landing was so hard that debris had found its way into the engines, sparking a fire that swiftly engulfed the rear of the fuselage, the same source said.

Russian investigators said they were looking into various versions.

Russian news agencies reported that the plane had been produced in 2017 and had been serviced as recently as April this year.

Aeroflot has long shaken off its troubled post-Soviet safety record and now has one of the world’s most modern fleets on international routes where it relies on Boeing and Airbus aircraft.

Russian officials are keen for Aeroflot to buy more Sukhoi Superjets, a regional airliner, for domestic flights to support the country’s fledgling civil aircraft industry. The plane is built in Russia’s Far East.

A Sukhoi Superjet crashed in Indonesia in 2012, killing all 45 people on board in an accident blamed on human error.

The Superjet entered service in 2011 and was the first new passenger jet developed in Russia since the fall of the Soviet Union.

    It has been hit, however, by sporadic concerns over safety and reliability, including a December 2016 grounding after a defect was discovered in an aircraft’s tail section.

Russian officials said on Sunday it was premature to talk of grounding the Sukhoi Superjet for now. The plane is predominantly used by Russian airlines like Aeroflot, but is also used by a few other foreign operators, including a low-cost Mexican airline.

Dozens of flights at Sheremetyevo were delayed because of the disaster.

 

 

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Fire or not, if someone ever stops in gather their luggage in an emergency exit situation, push them to the side of knock them down.  But it doesn’t surprise me that people would do that. They can’t be bothered to lose some clothes only to help save a few more people.

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23 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Fire or not, if someone ever stops in gather their luggage in an emergency exit situation, push them to the side of knock them down.  But it doesn’t surprise me that people would do that. They can’t be bothered to lose some clothes only to help save a few more people.

 No shit. I am ready to punch people deplaning under normal circumstances. Light that motherfucjer on fire and we about to get rowdy. 

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24 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 No shit. I am ready to punch people deplaning under normal circumstances. Light that motherfucjer on fire and we about to get rowdy. 

I often have to meditate over a scotch or some shit before boarding. People are slow, dumb and geometrically challenged already. 

Also, maybe, in this situation, run to the front the plane. Don't just sit there while the back is on fire. Assuming it was on fire before you landed and someone noticed it of course, but that appears to be what happened from the initial reports. Back of plane is sum ting wong zone

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3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

 No shit. I am ready to punch people deplaning under normal circumstances. Light that motherfucjer on fire and we about to get rowdy. 

I would look like Sonic the fucking Hedgehog getting out of there.

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i would be mowing motherfuckers down.  but net effect would make it worse - more chaos, more trampled bodies, more obstacles. 

 

1. wonder if it makes sense to centrally and automatically lock the overhead lockers. 

1a. also helps with motherfuckers in the developing world standing up and trying to remove their all shit while the plane is still taxiing.

2.  30" pitch seats probably doesnt help when trying to evacuate people

3. sucks if you're traveling with kids, elderly... even if you're a swift one, imagine trying to evac an octogenarian through the aisle

4. aeroflot has a scary safety record

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So if the airlines were not charging to check bags, there wouldn't be so much luggage in the overheads?

Overhead bins were just as packed before they charged. They should charge for carry ons and make checked bags free. That would speed everything up significantly.
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The Interfax news agency cited an unnamed “informed source” as saying the evacuation of the plane had been delayed by some passengers insisting on collecting their hand luggage first.

Oh, an unnamed "informed source." Sounds totally legit. Let's believe that without question. 

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Oh shit that gives me chills.

I first flew Aeroflot in January 1993, from Vilnius to Moscow.  Let's just say that the pilots muscled that Tu-154 around like it was a Mig 21, without much concern for passenger comfort.

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holy shit at that video. 

6 minutes ago, BearSchlong said:

I first flew Aeroflot in January 1993, from Vilnius to Moscow.  Let's just say that the pilots muscled that Tu-154 around like it was a Mig 21, without much concern for passenger comfort.

I'd rather walk than get on an Aeroflot flight. 

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When I was working in Russia one night we were out on the lash and a couple of middle-age guys with about eight young hotties were at the table next to us getting completely fucked up.  They were doing it right even by Russian standards which is to say they could barely stand up.  I didn't think much about it until the next morning when I was checking in for my flight and realized the group of drunks were the pilots and cabin crew of my flight.  That was fun.

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On occasion, we've looked at some odd flight itineraries.  Some of the more affordable flights that come up are on Aeroflot.  My son and I were looking at the options, and both nodded as I checked the box "remove Aeroflot from search."  No.  Fucking.  Way.

I mean, we flew on Ukraine International a couple of years ago, but at least they were flying 737s (old-school, not Max, although we didn't know the issue at the time).  Still...I felt shaky enough about THAT choice.  Aeroflot?  Nope.

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Oh, an unnamed "informed source." Sounds totally legit. Let's believe that without question. 

 You didn't notice that the video in the first post shows passengers escaping with their luggage, or just the screen cap of that video showing 2 of the 3 closest people on the left side with bags in their hand?  

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On occasion, we've looked at some odd flight itineraries.  Some of the more affordable flights that come up are on Aeroflot.  My son and I were looking at the options, and both nodded as I checked the box "remove Aeroflot from search."  No.  Fucking.  Way.
I mean, we flew on Ukraine International a couple of years ago, but at least they were flying 737s (old-school, not Max, although we didn't know the issue at the time).  Still...I felt shaky enough about THAT choice.  Aeroflot?  Nope.


But to do it just once to check the box? I’m down for that.

I once made it through security, including metal detectors, wearing work boots with lotsa metal in eyelets and suck. Made me think. Made me scared. But so what. Yolo
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2 hours ago, clapclapclap said:

 You didn't notice that the video in the first post shows passengers escaping with their luggage, or just the screen cap of that video showing 2 of the 3 closest people on the left side with bags in their hand?  

I watched the video. You thought you saw people carrying luggage?

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