Murder - Suicide in San Marcos

[immamac 42878]

http://star.txstate.edu/2019/05/breaking-police-respond-to-apparent-murder-suicide-early-sunday/

Crazy story. My brother in law was really good friends with the guy that was murdered. 

[staboner 4984]

A great friend of mine is a father is this story. We are devastated. I do not know anything about the details here but it feels about as far away from fair as I have been witness to. 

There may be a number of people affected on here in some manner. Condolences to all. RIP. 

[Yarbr 123]

Pretty big last name of one of them. Bad deal.

[Beau Vine 54331]

1 hour ago, immamac said:

http://star.txstate.edu/2019/05/breaking-police-respond-to-apparent-murder-suicide-early-sunday/

Crazy story. My brother in law was really good friends with the guy that was murdered.

So my gaydar misfired?

 

[Ten Bears 2481]

Seems like a lot of bad shit goes down in San Marcos these days.  Or maybe because I have a kid down there it just appears to be a lot worse than it used to be.

[Pato del Muerto 52542]

19 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

So my gaydar misfired?

 

Sister’s husband 

[InkaUtexas 26025]

1 hour ago, Ten Bears said:

Seems like a lot of bad shit goes down in San Marcos these days.  Or maybe because I have a kid down there it just appears to be a lot worse than it used to be.

yep, I have changed how my daughter runs around town (HS so no pics) and have talked to my son (Texas State, no pics) about his life, where he lives. Just go to Zelicks and you will be fine. 

 

[NAVY 6747]

Also a good friend of the victim’s father. Rest In Peace Connor. My family is heartbroken. 

[BearSchlong 8106]

If one of them is who I think he is, then he is a distant cousin via my Aunt's side of the family.

Edited May 8, 2019 by BearSchlong

[staboner 4984]

On 5/8/2019 at 8:24 AM, Ten Bears said:

Seems like a lot of bad shit goes down in San Marcos these days.  Or maybe because I have a kid down there it just appears to be a lot worse than it used to be.

I feel like its been getting worse. My wife was teaching there and had some scares that required extra security. Then I started to pay more attention to the news (like you did) and noticed all kinds of shit. Agg robbery, rape, lots of violent crime there in the middle of the town. Got wife out eventually, and thankfully.

[NAVY 6747]

Just back from the funeral. Connor’s dad gave an amazing speech calling for love and understanding. 

I love them all but Vengeance would be my reaction. Maybe I can grow from this tragedy. Maybe I can be better 

[TwiceHorn 31515]

10 minutes ago, NAVY said:

Just back from the funeral. Connor’s dad gave an amazing speech calling for love and understanding. 

I love them all but Vengeance would be my reaction. Maybe I can grow from this tragedy. Maybe I can be better 

Was it not a murder-suicide in which the murderer is deceased?  With all due respect to your bereavement, from whence would the vengeance come?

[NAVY 6747]

Exactly 

[TwiceHorn 31515]

On 5/8/2019 at 10:06 PM, staboner said:

I feel like its been getting worse. My wife was teaching there and had some scares that required extra security. Then I started to pay more attention to the news (like you did) and noticed all kinds of shit. Agg robbery, rape, lots of violent crime there in the middle of the town. Got wife out eventually, and thankfully.

Suppose it's the outward expansion of Austin suburbs?  Or is TSU drawing a broader, maybe rougher crowd than it used to?

[BigHorn'13 3385]

On 5/8/2019 at 10:06 PM, staboner said:

I feel like its been getting worse. My wife was teaching there and had some scares that required extra security. Then I started to pay more attention to the news (like you did) and noticed all kinds of shit. Agg robbery, rape, lots of violent crime there in the middle of the town. Got wife out eventually, and thankfully.

Ha. Yeah right... Says the guy whose handle is stab-on-'er. Not going to fool me!

[Beau Vine 54331]

On 5/8/2019 at 10:06 PM, staboner said:

I feel like its been getting worse. My wife was teaching there and had some scares that required extra security. Then I started to pay more attention to the news (like you did) and noticed all kinds of shit. Agg robbery, rape, lots of violent crime there in the middle of the town. Got wife out eventually, and thankfully.

There was an"incident" at the HS a couple of weeks ago.  The newspaper had a story on its front page, even though there were zero details as to exactly what the "incident" was.  Then last week, the superintendent posted a letter to facebook criticizing all of the rumors that had been spread on social media about the incident:

[clapclapclap 9000]

On 5/7/2019 at 5:24 PM, Ten Bears said:

Seems like a lot of bad shit goes down in San Marcos these days.  Or maybe because I have a kid down there it just appears to be a lot worse than it used to be.

It all started when they opened Kissing Tree, brought in all those Cali swinging hooligans.

[El Diablo 4232]

I lived in SM 20 years ago and yes, it's a party town and a lot of fun but there was definitely a darker side to the place, imho. It seemed at the time like there were a lot of people who lived there who had come there to go to school, got strung out and flunked out but stayed in town because it was easier than getting their shit together. They become the locals who could get the SWT kids their drugs and some ended up being pretty good sized fish. 50 year old seemingly respectable fish but maybe not so much. Cocaine, all of your opioids, psychedelics ...the kind of stuff that leads to drama when unstable college kids get in too deep. And sometimes shit would happen.

[TwiceHorn 31515]

11 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

I lived in SM 20 years ago and yes, it's a party town and a lot of fun but there was definitely a darker side to the place, imho. It seemed at the time like there were a lot of people who lived there who had come there to go to school, got strung out and flunked out but stayed in town because it was easier than getting their shit together. They become the locals who could get the SWT kids their drugs and some ended up being pretty good sized fish. 50 year old seemingly respectable fish but maybe not so much. Cocaine, all of your opioids, psychedelics ...the kind of stuff that leads to drama when unstable college kids get in too deep. And sometimes shit would happen.

Sheeit.  As far as I can tell, once you start dealing more than pot (and even that if you aren't a grower), things can get pretty rugged with the supply chain.  And college students or not, customers for harder stuff aren't that stable, period.

[El Diablo 4232]

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Sheeit.  As far as I can tell, once you start dealing more than pot (and even that if you aren't a grower), things can get pretty rugged with the supply chain.  And college students or not, customers for harder stuff aren't that stable, period.

And that was the thing, there was, or at least seemed to be, a significant segment using heavy duty drugs. If a dealer can meet the right trust fund babies consistently and still keep a little distance... things can be aight til they ain't.

[Kermit 3158]

1 hour ago, El Diablo said:

I lived in SM 20 years ago and yes, it's a party town and a lot of fun but there was definitely a darker side to the place, imho. It seemed at the time like there were a lot of people who lived there who had come there to go to school, got strung out and flunked out but stayed in town because it was easier than getting their shit together. They become the locals who could get the SWT kids their drugs and some ended up being pretty good sized fish. 50 year old seemingly respectable fish but maybe not so much. Cocaine, all of your opioids, psychedelics ...the kind of stuff that leads to drama when unstable college kids get in too deep. And sometimes shit would happen.

Yup. Although from my experience growing up there, shit always happened. Seen way to many friends succumb to that shit-hole. 

[Tailgate 3022]

Ya, we heard stories where the kids driving up from SWT back in the day would all drop their X (MDMA) when they would pass Adams Extract on their way to Austin for the night. This is when it was legal...crazy times.

[Hate 20128]

That’s crazy to hear. I lived in San Marcos from 92-00 and didn’t see any “dark side”. I was a regular at the Showdown and knew a bunch of the “burnt out” old hippies, but nothing sinister at all. I knew more than just a few dealers in my time there as well, but I never saw any “shady” element in the town. It’s weird to be so close to what’s being alleged and never having seen any of it.

[shnsajax 3591]

49 minutes ago, Hate said:

That’s crazy to hear. I lived in San Marcos from 92-00 and didn’t see any “dark side”. I was a regular at the Showdown and knew a bunch of the “burnt out” old hippies, but nothing sinister at all. I knew more than just a few dealers in my time there as well, but I never saw any “shady” element in the town. It’s weird to be so close to what’s being alleged and never having seen any of it.

Yeah I lived there for a few years in that same period and never saw any of that either. 

[El Diablo 4232]

2 hours ago, Hate said:

That’s crazy to hear. I lived in San Marcos from 92-00 and didn’t see any “dark side”. I was a regular at the Showdown and knew a bunch of the “burnt out” old hippies, but nothing sinister at all. I knew more than just a few dealers in my time there as well, but I never saw any “shady” element in the town. It’s weird to be so close to what’s being alleged and never having seen any of it.

I'm referring to the degenerates, people like myself, and my opinion is of course based solely on my own experience. When you're at the bottom of the barrel you run in circles that have a surprising breadth and depth. 

[Hate 20128]

Oh, I’m not doubting that it happened. I’m surprised I never saw it. When you can be described as a regular at the Showdown (I had my own cup) you are usually at the fringe of the bottom of the barrel at least. And like I said, I knew more than a handful of dealers but I never got into anything other than pot or mushrooms. Maybe staying away from that hard stuff spared me seeing the dark side you’ve mentioned?

[zork 629]

So what is the suspected reason for the initial shooting, much less the suicide?  Any guesses?  They both lived at the house where it happened, did I read that right?

[immamac 42878]

Haven't really wanted to get into the details with brother in law and his friends who knew them both. From what I understand it's been pretty tragic within those circles and no one is taking it particularly well. 

[phdhorn 6224]

I'm out at Mother's Day dinner and my daughter was in their class (2013) at lake Travis, and it came up. She says it's going around among her classmates that after Pfluger killed Shannon, he actually stabbed himself five or six times and didn't die, so then he shot himself. Wow.

[tx 3 putt 77254]

were these two life long friends ?

[gmr548 16590]

Damn. Condolences to those of y'all Thai know the families.

I would be interested to see per capita crime data with all these stories about SM getting less safe. Texas State has absolutely exploded the past 10-15 years. More people means more crime, but not necessarialy on a per capita basis.

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