HBO's Watchmen series

[Bookman 4725]

This show keeps getting better.

[Guadaloopy 11039]

On 11/5/2019 at 5:45 PM, MillerEP said:

If I recall movie cannon correctly, Viedt used Dr. Manhatten's abilities to nuke new york by spending billions to block his ability to see into the future and tricking him into building a bomb saying it was an energy source, and so the entire world thought Dr Manhatten was responsible, which is why he self exiled to Mars. Nobody would know the truth it was actually Viedt, which might be why the Senator told Agent Blake if he was President he could "pardon" anybody.

In movie canon, Rorshach mailed his journal to the press. The world knows that Veidt orchestrated the explosions.  

[MillerEP 30570]

In movie canon, Rorshach mailed his journal to the press. The world knows that Veidt orchestrated the explosions.  

Yes that’s true.

[Pato del Muerto 52870]

True or false:  Jeremy irons sounds like Christopher Lloyd in this. 

[brojangles2 786]

45 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

True or false:  Jeremy irons sounds like Christopher Lloyd in this. 

Very much so. 

[Js1 85746]

Petey is the character I need on shows to give me the background info I am missing or missed. 

[Tom 2960]

8 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

True or false:  Jeremy irons sounds like Christopher Lloyd in this. 

 

Ozymadias:  Tell me, boy.  Who's President of the United States in 2019?  

Mr. Phillips: Robert Redford.

Ozymandias: Ha!  The actor?!?   I mean, after 30 years he's still there?

[hornian 5251]

12 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Petey is the character I need on shows to give me the background info I am missing or missed. 

Read this:

https://www.hbo.com/peteypedia

[seven 1368]

Very excited about the looking glass episode next week 

[mdmost 43301]

So Veidt is stuck in a parallel dimension that Lady Trieu created?

[Js1 85746]

39 minutes ago, seven said:

Very excited about the looking glass episode next week 

Knight: He's a racist.

Looking Glass: He's a white man in Oklahoma!

bazinga. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

was there a lot of whisper talking last night or was that just me? 

[seven 1368]

14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Knight: He's a racist.

Looking Glass: He's a white man in Oklahoma!

bazinga. 

Loved this quote 

[Js1 85746]

13 minutes ago, NOMAAA said:

was there a lot of whisper talking last night or was that just me? 

I have a hard time hearing HBO shows for some reason.  I watched Catherine the Great, Watchmen and Mrs. Fletcher yesterday and either had to turn the volume up to something my 93 year old grandma would find acceptable or turn on CC. 

[seven 1368]

I usually watch the live broadcast of select HBO shows and then once or twice more later in the week on hbogo where I have cc on all the time. There is so much I miss that first broadcast without cc

[Nice Guy Eddie 13540]

Petey is a thin guy. Thin enough to slip into a storm sewer?

[Bookman 4725]

On 10/30/2019 at 5:16 PM, oSuJeff97 said:

Ooooh shit.  Also - does that mean that Ozy scene in episodes 1 and 2 are a year apart?  

From last night, it appears each Ozy scene is a year apart, on the anniversary of his imprisonment.

[Pato del Muerto 52870]

Or maybe part of his imprisonment is living the same day over and over. Though he seems to have full control over the goings on of each day, the cake is the same all the time. 

[Js1 85746]

16 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Petey is a thin guy. Thin enough to slip into a storm sewer?

Def considered that.  Seems wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too obvious for this show. 

[seven 1368]

Petey is def lube man, how else would Laurie fit that Dr manhattan vibrator in his ass? 

[NOMAAA 1696]

18 minutes ago, seven said:

Petey is def lube man, how else would Laurie fit that Dr manhattan vibrator in his ass? 

the fuck?

[Js1 85746]

10 minutes ago, NOMAAA said:

the fuck?

That was also my headcanon. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13540]

Ozy isn't building catapults or space suits in one day, so I don't think it's a Groundhog Day situation. I think he's been there 4 years now, as the candles keep increasing in the cake. He's getting frustrated that he can't find a method to escape. Hence why he killed everyone in frustration or anger.

I bet that the thing that crashed into the Clark farm, now owned by Lady Trieu, will end up be Ozy or something related to him. It seems apparent that he's going to catapult himself into the sky, so where does he come down? I guess that the sky is the bridge between different dimensions.

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

18 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Ozy isn't building catapults or space suits in one day, so I don't think it's a Groundhog Day situation. I think he's been there 4 years now, as the candles keep increasing in the cake. He's getting frustrated that he can't find a method to escape. Hence why he killed everyone in frustration or anger.

I bet that the thing that crashed into the Clark farm, now owned by Lady Trieu, will end up be Ozy or something related to him. It seems apparent that he's going to catapult himself into the sky, so where does he come down? I guess that the sky is the bridge between different dimensions.

So all the scenes with him are effectively flashbacks?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13540]

1 minute ago, Liquor and Poker said:

So all the scenes with him are effectively flashbacks?

I think so. You could argue that large parts of episode 4 were also a flashback since we already saw the car drop from the sky the episode before. 

[bolverk 29817]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Ozy isn't building catapults or space suits in one day, so I don't think it's a Groundhog Day situation. I think he's been there 4 years now, as the candles keep increasing in the cake. He's getting frustrated that he can't find a method to escape. Hence why he killed everyone in frustration or anger.

I bet that the thing that crashed into the Clark farm, now owned by Lady Trieu, will end up be Ozy or something related to him. It seems apparent that he's going to catapult himself into the sky, so where does he come down? I guess that the sky is the bridge between different dimensions.

I'm buying your theory - noticed last night on reviewing previous episodes the number of candles increasing on each rendition of "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow."

Also, spacesuit + catapult = eventual escape.

[Pato del Muerto 52870]

also of note was his monologue about being the clones’ master but not maker.  Why were they there, and in such a strange way, if he did not create them?

[Augustus 3061]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I think he's been there 4 years now, as the candles keep increasing in the cake.

Safe bet, given that he plainly said he'd been there "4 years" during the catapult scene.

Edit:  Or Trebuchet scene, I don't know the differencw

Edited November 11, 2019 by Augustus

[mdmost 43301]

42 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I'm buying your theory - noticed last night on reviewing previous episodes the number of candles increasing on each rendition of "For He's a Jolly Good Fellow."

Also, spacesuit + catapult = eventual escape.

The previous Mr. Phillips that came back frozen had a rope tied around him. The bodies launched last night did not. Not sure why he's launching them other than to figure out the proper launch angle and force needed.  

The Peteypedia is really interesting because it gives a lot of the backstory on Laurie, Nite Owl, that Veidt "disappeared" and got back most of his fortune through selling cloning technology. A supposed graphic novel callback was the stuffed animal that Angela's kid had which was Bubastis, Veidt genetically engineered cat. He cloned Bubastis after the events of the graphic novel and sold the technology to gain his fortune back.

And interesting spoiler because it might be brought up later 

In the Laurie file on Peteypedia, it's revealed that she was captured in 1995 with Nite Owl after they thwarted Timothy McVeigh from blowing up the federal building in Oklahoma City. They killed McVeigh in the process. The backstory written on this series is pretty great. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by mdmost

[Pato del Muerto 52870]

20 minutes ago, Augustus said:

Safe bet, given that he plainly said he'd been there "4 years" during the catapult scene.

Edit:  Or Trebuchet scene, I don't know the differencw

It’s a catapult. A very powerful one. 

[seven 1368]

What if ozzy collects all the space bodies and makes a space raft out of them? 

[Augustus 3061]

47 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

It’s a catapult. A very powerful one. 

Well I googled it and it turns out a trebuchet is a type of catapult so I learned something today.

[52-80 19277]

I really liked all the crookshanks and Philips being fished out of the water

[A-Tex Devil 2465]

3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Ozy isn't building catapults or space suits in one day, so I don't think it's a Groundhog Day situation. I think he's been there 4 years now, as the candles keep increasing in the cake. He's getting frustrated that he can't find a method to escape. Hence why he killed everyone in frustration or anger.

I bet that the thing that crashed into the Clark farm, now owned by Lady Trieu, will end up be Ozy or something related to him. It seems apparent that he's going to catapult himself into the sky, so where does he come down? I guess that the sky is the bridge between different dimensions.

I saw that farm scene from the beginning as having been in the past.  They said she was "building" the tower, but now the tower seems already built.  

Catching up on thread -- yeah, they are playing with timelines a bit.  As long as it doesn't pull any cheap Westworld tricks, I'll allow it.  

Edited November 11, 2019 by A-Tex Devil

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2 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I saw that farm scene from the beginning as having been in the past.

It was.

[NOMAAA 1696]

Looks like we have ourselves a reckoning. 

Haha

[Nice Guy Eddie 13540]

Not sure the farm scene was much in the past since the daughter seemed about the same age. Or did I get that wrong. But who knows, maybe the daughter is one of those Ozy clone creatures too.

of course lady trieu knew that object was crashing in 3 minutes hence the deadline. She must have some time travel or advance knowledge of the future.  Which also comes in handy when earning your trillions.  See Biff in back to the future.

[Buzzrock 15026]

This show is fucking weird. And I really like the movie and the book.

It’s a little odd that they cast Regina King and YAM as a couple since she’s fifteen years older than he is. But I’m only on ep 3, maybe they address it.

[Js1 85746]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Not sure the farm scene was much in the past since the daughter seemed about the same age. Or did I get that wrong. But who knows, maybe the daughter is one of those Ozy clone creatures too.

of course lady trieu knew that object was crashing in 3 minutes hence the deadline. She must have some time travel or advance knowledge of the future.  Which also comes in handy when earning your trillions.  See Biff in back to the future.

I thought it was obvious Trieu’s daughter is a clone of her. She had her mom’s memories of the Vietnam death marches 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13540]

33 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

This show is fucking weird. And I really like the movie and the book.

It’s a little odd that they cast Regina King and YAM as a couple since she’s fifteen years older than he is. But I’m only on ep 3, maybe they address it.

There are few hints the husband is someone else.

[Bama Chick 28596]

Petey is the character I need on shows to give me the background info I am missing or missed. 

The HBO website has a section called “PeteyPedia” - it’s a compilation of his notes and research and journals. It’s not necessary to read them to watch the show but they are awesome to give some stuff context and background.


https://www.hbo.com/peteypedia

[safe sex 11807]

So all the scenes with him are effectively flashbacks?

He rode past a Jolly Roger in one of the first two episodes, signifying that this is the "Black Freighter" section of the show, separate from the primary continuity of Tulsa (for now)

[Lurch 5940]

I have no idea wtf is going on.

[RockyMountainHighHorn 896]

On 11/4/2019 at 9:34 AM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

safe to assume that Laurie isn't over Dr. Manhattan, after a couple of decades, since she packs a reminder of him for business trips.

A reminder? More like a damn weapon. My girlfriend cringed at the sight of it 

[BonzoMontreaux 1114]

Veidt checking traps in the lake was one of the most bizarre things I have ever seen.  Digging the show.

[sidis 9832]

11 hours ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

A reminder? More like a damn weapon. My girlfriend cringed at the sight of it 

hmm, sucks to be you.

[DDD Dad 14370]

14 hours ago, Lurch said:

I have no idea wtf is going on.

[bolverk 29817]

40 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

"You wanna get high?"

[Js1 85746]

52 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

This is exactly how I feel watching this show. 

[Bookman 4725]

On 11/11/2019 at 12:43 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

Or maybe part of his imprisonment is living the same day over and over. Though he seems to have full control over the goings on of each day, the cake is the same all the time. 

Each cake has one more candle.