HBO's Watchmen series

[RPM 26327]

15 minutes ago, hornian said:

Sad there was no Veidt this week

Or was there? Who was the guy that formed the Minutemen? First thing I thought was he looked like a young Veidt.

[billfromlaketravis 11520]

Most shows take a beat. Sometimes for whole seasons. At least Watchmen took just one episode off. 

[Augustus 3061]

1 hour ago, RPM said:

Or was there? Who was the guy that formed the Minutemen? First thing I thought was he looked like a young Veidt.

Too old

[Michael Knight 12989]

1 hour ago, RPM said:

Or was there? Who was the guy that formed the Minutemen? First thing I thought was he looked like a young Veidt.

That's Captain Metropolis 

[Pato del Muerto 52535]

Fun little origin story.  Bad guys making good guys and sometimes vice versa is classic comics. 

[hornian 5222]

If y’all don’t read Peteypedoa on HBOs website you’re missing out. 

This week there were two “memos” written by Blake and Petey, both revealed that Angela was talking while in her “coma” and the FBI now knows that her grandfather was Hooded Justice. 
 

And there was a handwritten will from Captain Metropolis leaving all his estate to Will Reeves, and explaining a lot of what happened to Reeves after he stopped being Hooded Justice. 

You can certainly enjoy the show without it, but it fills in a lot of the backstory each week. 

[Js1 85449]

I looked away for one second, and then when I looked back up, Reeves is pounding Captain Metropolis IRL.  

At first I was like, yes, I love this show; then I realized Angela was reliving her grandpa going to pound town on some dude. 

 

[Kermit 3158]

Captain Metropolis has a huge asshole. 

[NOMAAA 1696]

7 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Most shows take a beat. Sometimes for whole seasons. At least Watchmen took just one episode off. 

seriously?  that was a great episode.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

9 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Most shows take a beat. Sometimes for whole seasons. At least Watchmen took just one episode off. 

Not sure if serious.

That was a brilliant episode.

[Angry Gorilla 1768]

What was with the opening scene with the white Hooded Justice beating up the cops in the interrogation room?

[mdmost 43011]

Peteypedia has multiple entries where Pete is sending memos about how the Minutemen dramatizations are complete BS. So the idea is either the authorities never knew Hooded Justice's identity or they knew and didn't want society to know it was a black man that inspired costumed heroes. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

18 minutes ago, Angry Gorilla said:

What was with the opening scene with the white Hooded Justice beating up the cops in the interrogation room?

That was a scene from the Minuteman show-within-a-show that other characters are watching.  I think it was to show the conventional wisdom that Hooded Justice was a white guy. I believe that "tv series" was made from a book from the original Nite Owl, who was also in the Minuteman.  Funny how the other Minutemen would know that Justice and Metropolis are hooking up but not that Justice was black.

to my knowledge, and I haven't read the comic, the original writers never claimed that Justice was black.

[oSuJeff97 3435]

One of the clever little touches this week was when Hooded Justice was applying his "white face" makeup, it was the inverse of Angela's "Sister Night" makeup that she puts on.

[seven 1367]

It's just sensationalized TV vs what actually happened 

[Js1 85449]

2 minutes ago, seven said:

It's just sensationalized TV vs what actually happened 

Yep.  Blake walks in and tells them to turn that shit off.  

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

53 minutes ago, oSuJeff97 said:

One of the clever little touches this week was when Hooded Justice was applying his "white face" makeup, it was the inverse of Angela's "Sister Night" makeup that she puts on.

ahh.  so obvious now how she dresses like hooded justice

[A-Tex Devil 2451]

5 hours ago, mdmost said:

Peteypedia has multiple entries where Pete is sending memos about how the Minutemen dramatizations are complete BS. So the idea is either the authorities never knew Hooded Justice's identity or they knew and didn't want society to know it was a black man that inspired costumed heroes. 

Plus it's a shot at Zach Snyder.

[A-Tex Devil 2451]

I am watching a second time around with the wife until she catches up.  Petey is absolutely Lube Man.  He comes into Blake's office shortly after Abar returns with the lube belt and Petey walks in all out of breath.  I don't think they are hiding the ball on that at all.  

[Rougarou 594]

Binged the six episodes the last two days (Marriot Bonvoy properties give you free HBO) and thought this was awesome so far.

[A-Tex Devil 2451]

Two other bits from ep 5 that mean more in ep 6:

 

- When looking glass breaks into 7K compound, there is a cyclops mural on wall.  
 

- I missed this the first time but Senator Keene mentioned that he *and* Judd Crawford came in to fix the mess after the White Night.   Perhaps others caught it,  but they were clearly working together, it seems.  

[Message Board User 12395]

Holy shit Angela.  That escalated quickly.

Another excellent episode.

Edited December 2, 2019 by Message Board User

[seven 1367]

Uhh

[RPM 26327]

1 minute ago, Message Board User said:

Holy shit Angela.  That escalated quickly.

Nailed it.

[Message Board User 12395]

Just now, RPM said:

Nailed it.

When all you have is a hammer...

[Bookman 4639]

So I guess Veidt's message reads:

Spoiler

Save Me Daughter

 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

3 minutes ago, Bookman said:

So I guess Veidt's message reads:

  Hide contents

Save Me Daughter

 

Oooh. Good thinking 

[FORTY NINE TO ZERO 2652]

Holy shit. Was NOT expecting that 

[Michael Knight 12989]

This show is fucked up

[Bama Chick 28596]

Cal has a message for everyone.

[hornian 5222]

So.

Looking Glass is still alive.

Dr. Manhattan has jungle fever. 

Bob from Mad Men wants to blue himself. 

The Smartest Man in the World can fart on command. 

And Lubeman is still at large. 

Did I miss anything?

[hornian 5222]

2 hours ago, Bookman said:

So I guess Veidt's message reads:

  Reveal hidden contents

Save Me Daughter

 

Agreed.

And Trieu mentioned she pioneered some fusion drive for space flight - probably to save him and bring him back to earth. She did say her father would be there soon or something to that effect. Also explains why she is so smart/obsessed with him/his company. 

[kingkoopa6 8375]

Elephant ?

[hornian 5222]

6 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

Elephant ?

I took it as a gag/play on words. Either it’s “elephants never forget” because of the memories, or it’s “the elephant in the room.”

[Pato del Muerto 52535]

57 minutes ago, kingkoopa6 said:

Elephant ?

 

49 minutes ago, hornian said:

I took it as a gag/play on words. Either it’s “elephants never forget” because of the memories, or it’s “the elephant in the room.”

I figured brain mass or surface area helped with the process, and an elephant has the largest brain of a land animal. 

[Radical Larry 28656]

"Life On Mars?" at the end. So good.

 

[billfromlaketravis 11520]

To the poster that pointed out Cal’s “unique” speech pattern in the waffles scene and said it was similar to you know who. Well done. Nothing gets past you. 

[Augustus 3061]

So I guess it was made pretty obvious that Trieu is Veidt's daughter.

Her speech at the end of the episode included some bits from Ozymandias

"our mighty work"

"without despair"

So now I'm wondering if "Save Me D.." is daughter instead of Dr Manhattan.

My first thought was that whatever crashed into the Clarks' farm in a flashback was her bringing daddy home, but in this episode she said he wasn't there, so I guess that doesn't work.

YouTube speculation is that the millennium clock is gonna wipe memories.

 

[hornian 5222]

Also, one of the 7K guys in Looking Glass’s bunker was missing his mask. 

Looking Glass has it. He’s going to save Laurie Blake. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

On 11/11/2019 at 10:10 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There are few hints the husband is someone else.

Seemed a bit too obvious with a few random comments.

[RPM 26327]

10 hours ago, Augustus said:

YouTube speculation is that the millennium clock is gonna wipe memories.

A gigantic flicker machine?

[Radical Larry 28656]

It's the freakiest show.

[Bookman 4639]

On 11/11/2019 at 10:10 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There are few hints the husband is someone else.

Good call.

[Buzzrock 14935]

Didn’t realize this was filmed in Atlanta until I saw The Iberian Pig in the background of the falling car scene.

[Bookman 4639]

31 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

Didn’t realize this was filmed in Atlanta until I saw The Iberian Pig in the background of the falling car scene.

No that was an elephant.

[seven 1367]

2 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

Didn’t realize this was filmed in Atlanta until I saw The Iberian Pig in the background of the falling car scene.

Macon, I think. 

 

Damn, no, it's Decatur 

Edited December 3, 2019 by seven

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2738]

Man this show is weird.

[RockyMountainHighHorn 894]

Here are some theories that seem to make sense. Obvious spoilers so don’t get all pissy. Some have been discussed here, some haven’t. 

https://www.gamespot.com/gallery/hbos-watchmen-episode-7-6-new-theories/2900-3245/

Edited December 3, 2019 by RockyMountainHighHorn

[DDD Dad 14346]

Craig Mazin podcast covering episodes 4-6 with Damon Lindelof is very good.

[52-80 19205]

2 hours ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

Man this show is weird.

I was following along for the whole ride but I still don't get the Manhattan thing....like he wanted to hide on Earth?  He took over Angela's husband's body?  Or he assumed it?  I mean was there a separate person that was the host, or was Manhattan intentionally or unintentionally staying "in character" until angela yanked him out? And given all that, what's the deal embedding the atomic ring thing in the brain