ECF: Bucks vs Raptors

[Vic Mackey 47182]

Game 1 Wednesday night at 7:30pm.

The 2 best players in the East facing off against each other. Can't beat that.

Bucks in 7.

[Machinator 32099]

Bucks haven't been to the Finals since 1974. Raptors have never been.

This should be fun.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8823]

C'mon Bucks!

Sucks marv Albert takes over for Harlan

[Vic Mackey 47182]

1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

C'mon Bucks!

Sucks marv Albert takes over for Harlan

Yep. Harlan's voice is like none other. I'd love to have Harlan on play by play and Hubie Brown on commentary. My 2 favorites. Hubie is no nonsense and no dumb shtick like Mark Jackson does.

[d2o 1602]

Hoping the Bucks can pull it out.    I think they will.   Especially with homecourt

[SilasCoade 2622]

Kawhi has been insane though. Bucks are the better team top to bottom, and it's crazy to say with Giannis in MIL, but the Raptors look like they have the best player. Best player usually wins.

[Catdaddyhorn 3448]

Will OG Anunoby be available for the Raptors? Say what you want about Masai, bu that dude has assembled a boatload of talent there in Toronto. 

[Vic Mackey 47182]

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[Mitch Cumsteen 18598]

Outside of GS/HOU, this is the most compelling matchup of the playoffs so far. I get why there is no chatter around here for Milwaukee and Toronto, but I'm really looking forward to this series.

It's going to be interesting to see how Toronto responds after Kawhi's shot. Those are the kind of things that give an otherwise choking franchise a belief that they've never had before. I remember how Sean Elliott's Memorial Day Miracle shot against Portland changed the trajectory and mindset of the entire Spurs franchise. Toronto, other than Kawhi, was so gun shy in game 7. Maybe they got a little of that stink off them and can now let it fly. Who knows? I still think Milwaukee is better and deeper (especially now that Brogdon is back), and has a major coaching advantage, but this should be great basketball. 

[Machinator 32099]

Raptors are hitting their 3s early.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8823]

pretty flawless first by Toronto

[NowThis 931]

rooting for the Raptors because of their Texas connection with Kawhi, Danny Green, Lowry and Lin.   I'd like to see Kawhi get revenge on the Warriors too.  If that happens, Pops should get a ring as well. 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

6 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Outside of GS/HOU, this is the most compelling matchup of the playoffs so far. I get why there is no chatter around here for Milwaukee and Toronto, but I'm really looking forward to this series.

It's going to be interesting to see how Toronto responds after Kawhi's shot. Those are the kind of things that give an otherwise choking franchise a belief that they've never had before. I remember how Sean Elliott's Memorial Day Miracle shot against Portland changed the trajectory and mindset of the entire Spurs franchise. Toronto, other than Kawhi, was so gun shy in game 7. Maybe they got a little of that stink off them and can now let it fly. Who knows? I still think Milwaukee is better and deeper (especially now that Brogdon is back), and has a major coaching advantage, but this should be great basketball. 

I thought the same thing as soon as it happened. You’d have to think that everyone’s confidence on that team is as high as it’s ever been. When you know you have the dude that nobody wants to see, and he’s proven it every time he’s been in the post season, it changes everything.

 

 

Now I’m going to go drink my pain away as I continue to watch Kawhi do Kawhi things.

[NowThis 931]

someone on ESPN said KL is better than Kobe.  I think it's true. 

[Machinator 32099]

 

[Machinator 32099]

They're letting Bledsoe shoot wide open jumpers and he's not even close.

[aggie08 21561]

42 minutes ago, NowThis said:

someone on ESPN said KL is better than Kobe.  I think it's true. 

That's the closest comp that I can think of given how his offensive game and shot-making has developed. He's a better defending, efficient Kobe.

Which doesn't suck.

[Machinator 32099]

Brook Lopez is cooking.

[TonyTexas 10535]

These KL is better than Kobe people have long term memory loss. They only remember what they see today.

[XYZ 2154]

Am I wrong in thinking that both of these teams have better defense than Golden State?

[Machinator 32099]

Just now, XYZ said:

Am I wrong in thinking that both of these teams have better defense than Golden State?

These are the two best defensive teams in the playoffs.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

7 minutes ago, XYZ said:

Am I wrong in thinking that both of these teams have better defense than Golden State?

Not at all. Definitely Milwaukee. They were the best defensive team all year, no?

Also, look at Kyle Lowry stepping up in a ECF game. Good for him. Ive always kinda liked him as a player, and it never made sense how he was so bad in the postseason all the time. 

[Machinator 32099]

Lopez is playing like an All-NBA center today, and the Raptors are about to waste a rare great Lowry Game 1 performance.

[CBT 1287]

The Brook Lopez game.

[Pam Cummings 9686]

Oh wow Danny Green cost them the game with that dumb turnover.

[Trey3216 15379]

Marc Gasol playing 39 minutes is pushing the envelope a bit, eh 

[HookEm 2468]

That Giannis block just now. Dang. Violent.

[C-Man 27286]

EABOD, #2

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

I don’t wanna pull a Paul pierce lol but that might be a wrap for this series. You don’t just get 30 point Kyle Lowry games. Couple that with Giannis having 1 fg in the 4th quarter and that had all the makings for the one game to steal on the road.

Edited May 16, 2019 by youdunnf'dup

[aggie08 21561]

53 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

These KL is better than Kobe people have long term memory loss. They only remember what they see today.

For one game, I'd probably take peak Kawhi over peak Kobe. But yeah, obviously he doesn't match up to Kobe's longevity, reliability, availability, and career.

Edited May 16, 2019 by aggie08

[aggie08 21561]

13 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Marc Gasol playing 39 minutes is pushing the envelope a bit, eh 

That much heralded Toronto bench has sure shrunk to nothing with Van Vleet playing like shit. Ibaka was -17 in his 17 minutes.

[NowThis 931]

at 104-100, Lowry rushed the 3 when he had 2 or 3 feet of space to dribble behind the line - or he could have come much closer for a  2.

Play Lin some. 

[Mitch Cumsteen 18598]

Remember that time Kobe faked an injury, sat out the season and acted like a giant bitch? Me neither. Fuck that gold bricking piece of shit. But yeah, he's a hyper efficient but less explosive version of Kobe who also happens to be the best perimeter defensive player in the league. 

As for the game, Milwaukee shot like crap for most of the game but made up for it by killing them on the boards especially with second chance points. Giannis wasn't great. Kawhi looked tired late in the game. Having Brogdan back is really big for Milwaukee.

The bucks are really deep. Normally that doesn't matter as much in the playoffs because the benches get shorter but they can throw a lot of different looks and skillsets at you. And they can rest their stars. Toronto has to feel like they blew a big opportunity tonight. I don't think they can afford to do that against this team.

 

[Blotto 23585]

2 hours ago, NowThis said:

someone on ESPN said KL is better than Kobe.  I think it's true. 

I'll take Kobe all day. I dumped both of their playoff stats (KB - 15 seasons, KL - 7 seasons) into excel and sorted by PPG. Kobe has 8 out of the top 10 seasons (1-2,4-9). He also can claim career playoff averages of 25.6 ppg,/4.7 apg/5.1 rpg vs Kawhi's career playoff stats of 18.3 ppg,/2.1 apg/7.5 rpg. 

[Kermit 3159]

Wasn’t that Lopez brother a Laker? Another intelligent decision made by whoever is in charge of that franchise.

[Kermit 3159]

1 minute ago, Blotto said:

I'll take Kobe all day. I dumped both of their playoff stats (KB - 15 seasons, KL - 7 seasons) into excel and sorted by PPG. Kobe has 8 out of the top 10 seasons (1-2,4-9). He also can claim career playoff averages of 25.6 ppg,/4.7 apg/5.1 rpg vs Kawhi's career playoff stats of 18.3 ppg,/2.1 apg/7.5 rpg. 

Well Kobe never had to face Matt Barnes in a series. 

[Hate 20149]

Fuck Kawhi...that’s the most important take away from tonight.

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

For one game, I'd probably take peak Kawhi over peak Kobe. But yeah, obviously he doesn't match up to Kobe's longevity, reliability, availability, and career.

This is probably the right answer.  I'll even expand and say over a series or even peak Kawhi season is better than anything Kobe put up, but when taken in totality, Kobe has him by quite a bit based on longevity and his ability to play more games in a season.  But one series, Kawhi shoots better, scores more efficiently, rebounds better, defends better (although probably pretty close).  Kobe was the better passer (odd to write) although Kawhi is more willing to share.

[Patrick Bateman 3933]

26 minutes ago, Hate said:

Fuck Kawhi...that’s the most important take away from tonight.

This is also the right answer.

[Vic Mackey 47182]

1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Remember that time Kobe faked an injury, sat out the season and acted like a giant bitch? Me neither. Fuck that gold bricking piece of shit. But yeah, he's a hyper efficient but less explosive version of Kobe who also happens to be the best perimeter defensive player in the league. 

As for the game, Milwaukee shot like crap for most of the game but made up for it by killing them on the boards especially with second chance points. Giannis wasn't great. Kawhi looked tired late in the game. Having Brogdan back is really big for Milwaukee.

The bucks are really deep. Normally that doesn't matter as much in the playoffs because the benches get shorter but they can throw a lot of different looks and skillsets at you. And they can rest their stars. Toronto has to feel like they blew a big opportunity tonight. I don't think they can afford to do that against this team.

 

Kobe quit on his team in the playoffs to make a point to the front office. I think in game 7 in the 2006 playoffs, he took one shot the whole second half? And he's a fucking piece of shit rapist. He was the most selfish teammate one could have.

[Hate 20149]

Kawhi quit on his team for a whole season, including the playoffs, to make some sort of point. Fuck him and his retarded uncle. I hope their passports expire and they are banned to spend eternity in Canada.

[Pam Cummings 9686]

Kobe forced a trade from the team that drafted him, quit on the Lakers during the playoffs, and demanded to be traded when they drafted Bynum. Hardly an example of non-bitchdom.

Edited May 16, 2019 by Pam Cummings

[Pam Cummings 9686]

39 minutes ago, Hate said:

Kawhi quit on his team for a whole season, including the playoffs, to make some sort of point. Fuck him and his retarded uncle. I hope their passports expire and they are banned to spend eternity in Canada.

And without him we're short a ring. I'd do it all again in a heartbeat.

Edited May 16, 2019 by Pam Cummings

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

1 hour ago, Pam Cummings said:

And without him we're short a ring. I'd do it all again in a heartbeat.

Thats kinda where I’m at. I swear, I tried to hate him. Fuck him for last year, but when I think about the ‘14 title, it’s almost impossible for me to not root for him if he’s going to be in the east. Dude put in some serious work for the vast majority of the time he was here.

 

Now, when he goes to LA and they become a contender, might be a different story...

Edited May 16, 2019 by youdunnf'dup

[d2o 1602]

12 hours ago, NowThis said:

someone on ESPN said KL is better than Kobe.  I think it's true. 

Dont go around saying dumb shit.  Kawhi is great.   He is not a top 10-15 all time player yet.

[d2o 1602]

9 hours ago, Kermit said:

Wasn’t that Lopez brother a Laker? Another intelligent decision made by whoever is in charge of that franchise.

Yes, but he was still working on his shot that season.   He was chucking like mutha and not hitting.     He wasn't rebounding or playing D like this either.    Having a superstar to draw a lot of attention getting you wide open looks helps a lot.   He was TERRIBLE with the Lakers.

[BradInATX 9208]

Thats kinda where I’m at. I swear, I tried to hate him. 

Try harder. Fuck him.

[Kermit 3159]

21 minutes ago, d2o said:

Yes, but he was still working on his shot that season.   He was chucking like mutha and not hitting.     He wasn't rebounding or playing D like this either.    Having a superstar to draw a lot of attention getting you wide open looks helps a lot.   He was TERRIBLE with the Lakers.

Don’t you dare bring facts into my Lakers-Hate jerk session.

[Kermit 3159]

1 hour ago, youdunnf'dup said:

Thats kinda where I’m at. I swear, I tried to hate him. Fuck him for last year, but when I think about the ‘14 title, it’s almost impossible for me to not root for him if he’s going to be in the east. Dude put in some serious work for the vast majority of the time he was here.

 

Now, when he goes to LA and they become a contender, might be a different story...

Dude, sack up. It’s easy to hate that goldbricking shithead when you remember last season. HE FUCKING QUIT ON HIS TEAM DURING THE SEASON AND THEY HAD TO BEG HIM TO PARTICIPATE AND HE BECAME A LITTLE BITCH AND DISAPPEARED AND HID FROM SPURS SUPPORT STAFF AMONGST OTHER BULLSHIT. Let the hate flow through you.

[d2o 1602]

4 minutes ago, Kermit said:

Don’t you dare bring facts into my Lakers-Hate jerk session.