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8 minutes ago, Big Frog II said:

  I wonder if the Superintendent went to Baylor?

All I could see was that at least one degree was from SFA and he used to be Super at China Spring ISD which is certainly a step up from Mt Vernon ISD so I wonder what happened there.

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2 hours ago, texifornia said:

And here's the press release. Love the Grant Teaff "no seriously he's an A+ dude" paras.

Also "At Mount Vernon ISD, Coach Briles joins a robust athletic department, rich with athletic success and committed to ethics, sportsmanship, and compliance."

 

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Ouch. Thamel with the roast

Congratulations to the administrators in Mount Vernon, Texas, for cratering to new depths in the American education system.

High school officials in Mount Vernon hit a trifecta of incompetence, ignorance and arrogance on Friday night. They started by hiring Art Briles, the completely toxic former coach at Baylor to be the football coach at Mount Vernon High School. The same Art Briles that couldn’t find gainful employment in America since 2016, when he was fired in disgrace at Baylor.


Mount Vernon officials stooped even lower by announcing this hiring late Friday afternoon before Memorial Day Weekend, an age-old publicity avoidance ploy that reinforced what common sense clearly told them — this is an embarrassing decision that needs to hidden.

The final salvo in their tour-de-force of overt lack of self-awareness came from the public relations official who allowed this quote from Briles to run in the press release: “You’ll make no bigger impact in this world than when you shape the lives of young people.”

In one artless and tactless swoop, Mount Vernon solidified itself as the new moral basement for high schools around the country. It has willingly brought in Art Briles, who ran a program at Baylor that had a stunning amount of sexual violence tied to its football team. And with it, tiny Mount Vernon has become the latest and most glaring example of how winning trumps ethics and an eternal reminder that the glare of Friday Night Lights can blind adults from acting in the best interest of children.

How bad was Baylor under Briles? One of the lawsuits to come from his tenure — and there were plenty — alleged there were 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, during a four-year period while Briles was the coach.

Those numbers were never independently verified, but anyone who has been awake the past decade would come to the conclusion that Briles recruited a roster filled with vile humans and did little to curtail their behavior or set a culture that did anything close to respect women. Another report listed 19 players involved in 17 instances of sexual or domestic assault and four gang rapes.

The numbers are awful any way you cut it, and they still fail to quantify the haunting pain, anger and anguish that lingers with all the women whose lives were indelibly altered by players that Art Briles brought to Baylor. He helped shape many lives. Yes he did.

Google Tevin Elliot, who was sentenced to 20 years in prison in 2014 after being found guilty of two counts of sexual assault. He was recruited and brought to Baylor by Art Briles. Google Sam Ukwuachu, who transferred to Baylor from Boise State. He was convicted of sexual assault of a Baylor soccer player in August of 2015. Art Briles brought him to Baylor, too.

Google Shamycheal Chatman.Google Tre’Von Armstead. Google Shawn Oakman. (He was recently acquitted of rape, but google him anyway to see if Briles should have recruited him.)There’s sickening allegation after sickening allegation, so many lives shaped so horribly.

If the googling isn’t convincing enough, you can read the book about Briles’ tenure at Baylor: Violated: Exposing Rape at Baylor University amid College Football’s Sexual Assault Crisis. The book doesn’t pin all the issues at Baylor on Briles, but a USA Today review sums it up this way: “Any potential employer that reads Violated will come away with the impression of a coach whose program invited dangerous characters onto campus with little or no vetting, didn’t have a drug-testing program and allowed a culture of invincibility to grow with regard to conduct.” Well, almost any.

There’s a small faction of Baylor truthers who’ll point out that Briles was never fired from Baylor for cause, as the school has reportedly paid him more than $15.1 million. And they’ll point to administrators, board members, police and anyone else but St. Art as the root of the chronic dysfunction and sexual assault at Baylor. And if those are the people that Mount Vernon administrators like superintendent Jason McCullough listened to, it sounds like they selectively searched for the parts about full stadiums, 60-point offensive performances and roaring crowds.

“The bottom line is that when a school takes on someone like that, they’re taking on a giant risk,” said Kathy Redmond, the founder of the National Coalition Against Violent Athletes. “It says a lot about the school being insulated.”

Briles supporters will also point out that he was a successful high school coach in Texas before going to college. (But this Deadspin report alleges that Briles’ players had issues with sexual assault back then as well, and it paints a convincing portrait of his ambivalence toward that behavior.)

The people and students of Mount Vernon have a clear choice that started the moment their administrators tried to news-dump Briles into their lives on Friday night. It took just 12 hours for the Canadian Football League’s Hamilton Tiger-Cats to capitulate amid a public outcry when the team attempted to hire Briles as an offensive assistant in 2017. Sponsors threatened to pull their ads. Prominent Canadians complained. He was gone before the news cycle could end.

The people of Mount Vernon have been given an opportunity to actually shape the lives of the young people there. They can petition the school board, picket the superintendent’s office and scream into every microphone put in front of them. (And if Briles does arrive, the school and town should be ready to live under a microscope and amid many microphones.) Are the female students offended? Do the parents of the players find Briles’ history unseemly? Do the teachers find this counter-intuitive to the values that should be taught? If the answer is “no” to those, they should be prepared to say it over and over into cameras and microphones.

The people and students in Mount Vernon can still prevent their town’s reputation from careening toward some B-list Friday Night Lights caricature, as perhaps they can teach the alleged educators something about shaping the lives of young people.

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On 5/24/2019 at 7:13 PM, texifornia said:

Enjoy the crusty old goobers you'd expect to hire Briles navigate the world of modern technology.

"I got a little unfinished business in Texas" well yeah you only managed to terrorize one mid-sized city's female population. Now you've got East Texas.

 

Teams that Briles has coached, have done the following:

Plusses: Team playing for a shot at the Italian Super Bowl...
Minuses: Team runs rampant with rape charges that he helps cover up...

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16 minutes ago, kopp0e said:

Teams that Briles has coached, have done the following:

Plusses: Team playing for a shot at the Italian Super Bowl...
Minuses: Team runs rampant with rape charges that he helps cover up...

Not to mention the free-flowing steroids at Stephenville.

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I don’t think this has been brought up elsewhere , but not a big deal if it has, and has a relation to Baylor football since the guy is a former football player and track athlete. A Waco TV station has been hitting him and the Connally ISD really hard for a few weeks for hiring him, despite a history of bad behavior.

https://www.kxxv.com/news/25-investigates/educator-accused-of-sending-inappropriate-messages-had-record-of-misconduct-before-connally-isd?fbclid=IwAR11nYoh3yypXHTprVi27671vcjdRORvgwbNb5hLaNY4G6wlX7VG3kX5FH8

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In November 2018, Simpson was accused of locking a teacher in the school's book room, pulling down his pants, exposing his erect penis and masturbating in front of her. The Texas Education Agency and the Connally ISD Police department both started investigations into the alleged misconduct . Those investigations are still on-going .

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I knew John pretty well 30+ years ago, was kinda the Vanilla Ice type back in the day, frosted blond hair and tons of attitude. He was extremely fast, high school teammate of Thurman Thomas and played receiver at Baylor. Had a real problem catching the ball, but saved his best game for the Liberty Bowl against LSU and was the Offensive MVP. Now, he’s just offensive.

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50 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

I don’t think this has been brought up elsewhere , but not a big deal if it has, and has a relation to Baylor football since the guy is a former football player and track athlete. A Waco TV station has been hitting him and the Connally ISD really hard for a few weeks for hiring him, despite a history of bad behavior.

https://www.kxxv.com/news/25-investigates/educator-accused-of-sending-inappropriate-messages-had-record-of-misconduct-before-connally-isd?fbclid=IwAR11nYoh3yypXHTprVi27671vcjdRORvgwbNb5hLaNY4G6wlX7VG3kX5FH8

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I knew John pretty well 30+ years ago, was kinda the Vanilla Ice type back in the day, frosted blond hair and tons of attitude. He was extremely fast, high school teammate of Thurman Thomas and played receiver at Baylor. Had a real problem catching the ball, but saved his best game for the Liberty Bowl against LSU and was the Offensive MVP. Now, he’s just offensive.

Grant Teaff vouch for him too?

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I don’t think this has been brought up elsewhere , but not a big deal if it has, and has a relation to Baylor football since the guy is a former football player and track athlete. A Waco TV station has been hitting him and the Connally ISD really hard for a few weeks for hiring him, despite a history of bad behavior.
https://www.kxxv.com/news/25-investigates/educator-accused-of-sending-inappropriate-messages-had-record-of-misconduct-before-connally-isd?fbclid=IwAR11nYoh3yypXHTprVi27671vcjdRORvgwbNb5hLaNY4G6wlX7VG3kX5FH8
In November 2018, Simpson was accused of locking a teacher in the school's book room, pulling down his pants, exposing his erect penis and masturbating in front of her. The Texas Education Agency and the Connally ISD Police department both started investigations into the alleged misconduct . Those investigations are still on-going .
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I knew John pretty well 30+ years ago, was kinda the Vanilla Ice type back in the day, frosted blond hair and tons of attitude. He was extremely fast, high school teammate of Thurman Thomas and played receiver at Baylor. Had a real problem catching the ball, but saved his best game for the Liberty Bowl against LSU and was the Offensive MVP. Now, he’s just offensive.

Some of us call that a Tuesday.
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A federal judge sanctioned Pepper Hamilton on Friday after ruling the Philadelphia-based law firm “knowingly” violated court orders and ignored a subpoena to produce documents to 15 Jane Doe plaintiffs in their ongoing lawsuits against Baylor University.

U.S. District Judge Robert Pitman’s order comes four days after a 90-minute, show-cause hearing in Austin in which he cautioned attorneys for Pepper Hamilton and Baylor that their actions were delaying the litigation and increasing costs to all parties. He said in ordering the hearing that sanctions were appropriate against the firm, which Baylor hired to investigate the school’s handling of sexual assault allegations.

Pitman ordered Pepper Hamilton to pay plaintiffs’ attorneys Jim Dunnam and Chad Dunn “reasonable” expenses and fees incurred in preparing their amended motion to compel and the motion for sanctions.

 

“The evidence of Pepper Hamilton’s conduct in violation of the court’s orders is so ‘clear, direct, weighty, and convincing’ that the court reaches this conclusion with clear conviction and without hesitancy,” the judge wrote.

Pitman directed Dunnam and Dunn to file a motion detailing their fees and expenses by Aug. 20.

“Every step we take toward sunshine being shown upon what happened at Baylor is a positive step, and this is one more positive step,” Dunnam said.

Dallas attorney Bill Cobb, who represents Pepper Hamilton, did not return a phone message Friday.

Frustrated with Pepper Hamilton’s actions, which they charged have prolonged the lawsuit discovery process, the plaintiffs’ attorneys asked Pitman to sanction the firm. While Dunnam and Dunn did not seek sanctions against Baylor, they steadily have complained that Baylor has assured the court that it has complied with discovery orders, only to later bombard the plaintiffs with additional documents.

 
 

Pitman’s order Friday also addresses Baylor, saying the court “cautions Baylor that even inadvertent violation of a discovery order is eligible for sanctions, and the court will sanction if Baylor makes further production of Pepper Hamilton materials without adequate explanation.”

Baylor spokesman Jason Cook declined comment on Pitman’s order but said Baylor has provided more than 3 million documents and spent more than $4.5 million during the discovery process.

 

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On 5/30/2019 at 1:29 PM, Vito Andolini said:

I knew John pretty well 30+ years ago, was kinda the Vanilla Ice type back in the day, frosted blond hair and tons of attitude. He was extremely fast, high school teammate of Thurman Thomas  

There was a guy walking the halls of Willowridge 30+ years ago with frosted blond hair, and he survived? 

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57 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

I know.  Crypto bump.   But somehow I missed this when it came out in 17.     You can watch it on showtime by signing up for a trial week on Prime.

https://theundefeated.com/features/showtime-documentary-disgraced-resurfaces-story-of-murdered-player-at-baylor/

Having lived here a while and crossed paths with a bunch of those guys back in my younger days, and not to take away from what the shitstain Bliss did here, but Dennehy and Dotson were both dealing drugs.  that's a fact.  Many a friend bought from them.  

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I know.  Crypto bump.   But somehow I missed this when it came out in 17.     You can watch it on showtime by signing up for a trial week on Prime.

https://theundefeated.com/features/showtime-documentary-disgraced-resurfaces-story-of-murdered-player-at-baylor/

Bliss is just scary slimy in that documentary.  It's disturbiing that he kept getting chances.  And made money off of speaking about his redemption.  He's hideous.

The big problem with Baylor isn't Bliss.  Or Briles.  Or the baseball players that skinned Queso the cat.  It's the underlying culture that allowed those scumbags to do what they did.  That culture hasn't changed, and Baylor will have another major scandal.  It's just a matter of time.  The culture of "our boys are clean, upstanding young men, and our girls are pure and virginal--and if they're not, they need to go off where they won't bother us anymore" is still the culture.  They don't recognize the wolves in their midst (the coaches preying on their naivete), and they get Bliss, Briles and the next one. 

The reality is that in most instances, coeds and other students are probably safer on BU campus than Big State U campus.  The problem is that in those circumstances when they aren't safe, when the worst happens, the victim is in one of the worst places for that to happen.  She won't be believed, she'll be slut shamed, she'll be shunned, she'll be shunted off to the side, out of sight, out of mind, so that the little picture of edenic little ol' Baylor can be restored without the Jezebel being around.  They're all sisters in Christ, until they're not.  

Whatever happens in the next realignment, the only acceptable solution is to jettison this stain on the rest of the B12 schools.  It's only a matter of time until they do it again.  

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26 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

SMDH...

 

 

15 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:


I’m not guilty of covering up rape because everybody was covering up rape.

That’s it, right?

Yeah. That's literally it. That's the NCAA's reasoning, and Briles'. Apparently "Everyone is doing it" is a valid defense for horrible crimes now.

I'd say "fuck the NCAA and Briles" but I don't know whose dick would deserve that kind of abuse.

Edit: And they'd probably enjoy it too much, anyway.

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[penn st fan] why weren’t other departments molesting children and covering it up! [/penn st fan]

 

but seriously, I shouldn’t be surprised at anything the NCAA does/doesn’t do anymore, but this has left me speechless

 

and all the ridiculous quotes from the various folks at the NCAA about how there was nothing they could do.

just shut up. All I can think of is that picture of befuddlement of Bud Selig during the ASG tie. Just flashing this would be a much better response.

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(Also f selig) 
 


 

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