Baylor Rape Talk Not Going Away

[Rimbo 27014]

the following entities and institutions can all go (officially) fuck themselves

1. baylor
2. art briles
3. kendall briles
4. the ncaa
5. the big xii
6. the big xii officiating crews
7. all the football players who ever played at baylor
8. bud selig
9. futureman
10. bob bowlsby
11. baylor (again)
12. penn state
13. joepa
14. that little boy fucking bitch that joepa protected
15. pedophiles everywhere
16. rapists everywhere
17. texas tech, because seriously, just fuck them and their stupid goddamn tortillas
18. everyone who ever defended any of these fuckheads

[Al Czervik 1261]

1 minute ago, Rimbo said:

the following entities and institutions can all go (officially) fuck themselves

1. baylor
2. art briles
3. kendall briles
4. the ncaa
5. the big xii
6. the big xii officiating crews
7. all the football players who ever played at baylor
8. bud selig
9. futureman
10. bob bowlsby
11. baylor (again)
12. penn state
13. joepa
14. that little boy fucking bitch that joepa protected
15. pedophiles everywhere
16. rapists everywhere
17. texas tech, because seriously, just fuck them and their stupid goddamn tortillas
18. everyone who ever defended any of these fuckheads

19.  oklahoma 

[LTtxfan 50003]

SIAP

 

[Rockwell Torrey 1380]

11 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

SIAP

 

That is interesting, but have you heard how evil Texas is for leaving the Big 12.  Fuck Baylor.

[LTtxfan 50003]

Briles unpenalized but not unscathed in Baylor NCAA report

By STEPHEN HAWKINS   yesterday

Five years after he was dumped by Baylor, Art Briles was front and center in a withering NCAA infractions report Wednesday that ripped him for failing to look into horrific and potentially criminal allegations involving his football players.

Yet the infractions panel didn’t find him guilty of any NCAA violations, and his attorney said he is clear to return to college coaching.

“My client Art Briles has been completely exonerated and cleared of all NCAA violations alleged against him,” the attorney, Scott Tompsett, told ESPN. “As the NCAA Committee on Infractions explained, the conduct at issue was pervasive and widespread throughout the Baylor campus, and it was condoned or ignored by the highest levels of Baylor’s leadership.”

Briles was fired by Baylor after an external investigation revealed in May 2016 that the world’s largest Baptist university had for years mishandled and failed to properly respond to numerous sexual assault allegations by students, including some against football players. Briles has long disputed the allegations against him.

In its 51-page report, the infractions committee didn’t hold back on Briles.

“In each instance, when the head coach received information from a staff member regarding potential criminal conduct by a football student-athlete, he did not report the information and did not personally look any further into the matter,” the panel said. “His incurious attitude toward potential criminal conduct by his student-athletes was deeply troubling to the panel.

“As one panel member observed at the hearing when questioning the head coach’s lack of response to this information, ‘a lot of these things that we’re talking about, they’re not NCAA rules violations . . . (or) university policy violations. They’re felonies. (W)e’re talking about rapes and physical assaults,’” according to the report. “The head coach failed to meet even the most basic expectations of how a person should react to the kind of conduct at issue in this case. Furthermore, as a campus leader, the head coach is held to an even higher standard. He completely failed to meet this standard.”

Still, the panel didn’t find Briles guilty of any rules violations when putting Baylor on four years or probation and imposing recruiting restrictions on the football program.

The one former Baylor employee directly sanctioned by the NCAA was former director of football operations Odell James, who was hit with a five-year show cause order. A representative of James said James, who was on Baylor’s staff from 2004-15, was being improperly punished for declining an in-person interview and was exploring options to challenge the decision.

The NCAA did find rules violations occurred between 2011 and 2016, including impermissible benefits and drug testing violations in the football program, and violations involving the institution’s predominantly female student host program.

But the infractions panel reluctantly agreed with Baylor that the mishandling of various allegations on the Waco campus “did not constitute violations of NCAA legislation.”

The 65-year-old Briles hasn’t coached at the college level since leaving Baylor, where he led the Bears to their only two Big 12 Conference titles while going 65-37 from 2008-15. Baylor had four 10-win seasons in a five-year span from 2011-15, after only winning 10 games once before that.

Five wins from the 2011 season, when the Bears went 10-3 and quarterback Robert Griffin III became the school’s only Heisman Trophy winner, could be vacated because of the use of an ineligible player who did receive impermissible benefits.

Briles insisted many of the allegations against him were false; at one point, he even sued three school regents and a vice president for libel and slander, claiming they falsely stated he knew of reported assaults and alleged gang rapes by players and didn’t report them.

In February 2017, university regents revealed new details in the case, including texts and quotes from conversations alleging Briles ignored sexual assaults by players and failed to alert university officials or discipline athletes. In one alleged gang rape incident in 2013, Briles was shown a list of players a victim had identified.

“These are some bad dudes. Why was she around those guys?,” Briles is quoted in the filing as saying.

Baylor paid Briles more than $15 million after firing him. He later acknowledged making mistakes and apologized for “some bad things” that happened under his watch.

Briles coached briefly in Italy and then at a Texas high school in Mount Vernon.  

 

['stache 22133]

11 hours ago, Al Czervik said:

19.  oklahoma 

Nope. Y'all are best friends now. The scene at the Cotton Bowl this year will be epic with 90,000 people, all chanting "SEC SEC" in beautiful unison. Like the WW1 Christmas Truce, except forever.

[Al Czervik 1261]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Nope. Y'all are best friends now. The scene at the Cotton Bowl this year will be epic with 90,000 people, all chanting "SEC SEC" in beautiful unison. Like the WW1 Christmas Truce, except forever.

20. 'stache

[Zeus 6862]

11 hours ago, Rimbo said:

the following entities and institutions can all go (officially) fuck themselves

1. baylor
2. art briles
3. kendall briles
4. the ncaa
5. the big xii
6. the big xii officiating crews
7. all the football players who ever played at baylor
8. bud selig
9. futureman
10. bob bowlsby
11. baylor (again)
12. penn state
13. joepa
14. that little boy fucking bitch that joepa protected
15. pedophiles everywhere
16. rapists everywhere
17. texas tech, because seriously, just fuck them and their stupid goddamn tortillas
18. everyone who ever defended any of these fuckheads

 

[TrashMaster G 18088]

12 hours ago, Rimbo said:

the following entities and institutions can all go (officially) fuck themselves

1. baylor
2. art briles
3. kendall briles
4. the ncaa
5. the big xii
6. the big xii officiating crews
7. all the football players who ever played at baylor
8. bud selig
9. futureman
10. bob bowlsby
11. baylor (again)
12. penn state
13. joepa
14. that little boy fucking bitch that joepa protected
15. pedophiles everywhere
16. rapists everywhere
17. texas tech, because seriously, just fuck them and their stupid goddamn tortillas
18. everyone who ever defended any of these fuckheads

Tortillas are awesome.  Wth?

[Rimbo 27014]

4 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

Tortillas are awesome.  Wth?

because they throw them in the field instead of making delicious tacos with them. it's wasteful! think of all the poor unborn tacos

[TrashMaster G 18088]

5 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

because they throw them in the field instead of making delicious tacos with them. it's wasteful! think of all the poor unborn tacos

Ok, that's fair.  Although, I'd be more concerned if we had a tortilla shortage.

[Ghost of LL 15698]

12 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

SIAP

 

I think this is exactly right.  The day when the NCAA is completely and fatally undermined is rapidly approaching, and I certainly won't mourn its death.

Just a generation ago, the NCAA banned SMU from football because it paid players (the prohibition on which we now know--and anybody who knew shit about antitrust law knew then--was a massive antitrust violation).  Today, the NCAA can't find its way clear to say anything about the institutional cover-up of rape by student-athletes.

It's an institution that is rotten to the core and has lost any purpose it may have ever had.  It's past time for it to dissolve.

[Pods 7637]

55 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I think this is exactly right.  The day when the NCAA is completely and fatally undermined is rapidly approaching, and I certainly won't mourn its death.

Just a generation ago, the NCAA banned SMU from football because it paid players (the prohibition on which we now know--and anybody who knew shit about antitrust law knew then--was a massive antitrust violation).  Today, the NCAA can't find its way clear to say anything about the institutional cover-up of rape by student-athletes.

It's an institution that is rotten to the core and has lost any purpose it may have ever had.  It's past time for it to dissolve.

It's fucking disgusting. The NCAA doesn't care about players gang raping co-eds. They don't care about coaches raping little boys. They don't care when the cover-up reaches high up into the administration.

They should be looking for every excuse to punish Baylor and Penn State, not fucking enabling them. Both programs should have been kicked out of their conferences and the NCAA.  

The only thing the NCAA cares about is $$$ and it's impossible to pretend any different anymore. Time for them to go.  

[LTtxfan 50003]

 

[LTtxfan 50003]

Lawsuits ongoing...  Lebby and Kazadi (tcu) mentioned

Ex-Baylor coach Art Briles: Didn't know of allegations in 2014

Paula Lavigne,     ESPN Oct 19, 2023

WACO, Texas -- Former Baylor football coach Art Briles testified Thursday that he had no knowledge of the domestic violence allegations made by a former student against one of his players in 2014 until she filed a lawsuit two years later, although members of his staff knew about those claims -- and reports of other issues -- involving the former player.

Briles is a defendant in a Title IX and negligence trial in which Baylor alumna Dolores Lozano alleges being physically assaulted by then-Bears player Devin Chafin in 2014. Baylor University and ex-athletic director Ian McCaw are also defendants in the federal case.

Lozano, now an elected justice of the peace in Harris County, Texas, reported that Chafin physically assaulted her three times in March and April 2014, after the two, who had been dating, argued over an abortion Lozano had earlier that year.

Lozano alleges that the university's overall failure to implement Title IX and address sexual violence put her at risk for assault and that the university, Briles and McCaw failed to properly respond to her report and caused her to be subjected to further abuse by Chafin.

Briles and McCaw first appeared in court Thursday -- the fourth day of testimony -- and did not answer questions about Lozano's claims as they walked into the federal courthouse.

Multiple Baylor women have filed complaints and lawsuits against Baylor stemming from the school's overall failures to address reports of sexual violence and the 2016 findings by law firm Pepper Hamilton that found problems in multiple university departments. The findings highlighted specific issues with the football program and led to the firing of Briles, suspension and eventual resignation of McCaw and demotion of former president Ken Starr, who died in 2022. Lozano's is the only lawsuit from that time to make it to trial, and it is unique in that it names McCaw and Briles as individual defendants.

During testimony, when it came to football facts, Briles rattled off details with precision, even checking an attorney when he said Baylor won the Big 12 championship in 2014 by noting the Bears had actually shared that title with TCU.

But for much of his testimony, Briles pleaded ignorance. He said he had "no awareness" of Title IX when he started at Baylor in 2007 and didn't receive any Title IX training until fall 2014. When Lozano's attorney started to question him on something in his 2014 book, "Beating Goliath," which is written in first-person, Briles said he didn't know because he hadn't read the book.

He also said he wasn't familiar with his 2017 defamation lawsuit against three members of the board of regents, saying he "had a lawyer" and at one point he asked an attorney for Lozano, Zeke Fortenberry, "Did the suit go through?" to which Fortenberry responded, "You dismissed it."

As for Chafin, Briles said he hadn't been aware of Chafin's driving under the influence arrest in Wichita Falls, Texas, in 2012, for which strength and conditioning coach Kaz Kazadi had Chafin do extra workouts. Fortenberry also presented him with a letter -- with Briles' signature -- to the NCAA appealing an eligibility decision for Chafin.

"I think this is about some academic issues," Briles said. "I would assume one of the academic advisors wrote this on Devin's behalf and had me sign it. It's way too in-depth for something I would write."

Briles said he might not be very aware of minor infractions by his players but that he would have been aware of any felony-level incident or major allegations. He said much of the responsibility for discipline fell to Kazadi, who would subject the players to extra workouts, hold them out of some activities and make them show up early, but he was unaware of any written policy.

Fortenberry named four people in the football program who he said knew about Lozano's reported assaults in 2014, including Kazadi, McCaw, assistant coach Jeff Lebby and chaplain Wes Yeary. Briles said not one of them informed him. When questioned by his own attorney, Briles said he first heard of Lozano when she filed her lawsuit, which was in October 2016.

"If all four of your staff members knew about it, should you have known about it?" Fortenberry asked.

"Yes, sir," Briles said.

One of the findings from the Pepper Hamilton sexual assault investigations was that football had its own disciplinary system and acted "above the rules" of the school's judicial affairs office.

Briles said there was "a little bit of a misunderstanding" between the football program and judicial affairs, being concerned about players getting expelled for first-offense marijuana violations or getting kicked out of student housing for other infractions. But he said the football program didn't have a disciplinary system separate from the university.

Briles said he did "give a few student-athletes" the name of Waco attorney Jonathan Sibley, who Briles had said offered his services to the program for any athletes who might need help.

Fortenberry also presented Briles with text messages he had exchanged with coaches and other Baylor employees, most of whom had been made public in the 2017 defamation lawsuit, in which he was responding to other football players who were involved in criminal incidents.

The various text messages were presented as proof that Briles and others in the department tried to keep athletes away from judicial affairs, arrange attorneys for them and keep their alleged crimes under wraps.

In one April 2011 message, Briles texted with an assistant coach about a player who had received a ticket for underage drinking and he responded, "Hopefully he's under the radar" so no one will recognize his name, and later, "just trying to keep him away from our judicial affairs folks."

Briles testified that the player was a 19-year-old from "very minimal means" and he was worried that a sanction from judicial affairs would cause him to lose his on-campus housing.

At one point, Briles got emotional and paused for a long time before attempting to answer a question, needing to pull out a tissue to dab at his eyes. He was being asked about earlier testimony from McCaw, who said that in the days before Briles was fired in May 2016, the ex-chairman of the Baylor board of regents said that Briles was "going to take the fall" when the investigation findings were released.

Throughout the trial, Briles' attorneys have repeatedly asked Baylor regents and others if Briles violated any policy or actively tried to discourage anyone from reporting an assault or covering up an assault, and every answer has been no.

In testimony earlier in the week, former regent J. Carey Gray said Briles was not fired because of any specific incident or action but because the board did not feel he was the right person to make the necessary culture changes to lead the board forward.

An attorney for Baylor, while questioning Briles about a presentation used to teach athletes about how to be respectful to women, asked him, "Is this something you were trying to instill in your players?" Briles said it was. "Do you recognize sometimes that fell short?"

Briles responded: "Yes."

[Nivek 17409]

Falling short of being respectful to women =  rape?  

 

[LTtxfan 50003]

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by LTtxfan

[markstanco 12786]

[Post Oak 20565]

The prosecutor shouldve just said, "look at him. Does this look like a person who would've done the right thing."

In the words of revered attorney Jackie Chiles, "your face is my case."

[RomaVicta 30583]

Lying scumbag.

And most of Baylor would take him back in a moment.

Burn that fucking place down.

[Pam Cummings 9868]

I'm not so sure anymore. I think Briles was a gimmick that has been caught up to. He was always exposed against the better athletes. All of his disciples have been pretty shitty as coaches.

[statsman 5693]

19 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Lying scumbag.

And most of Baylor would take him back in a moment.

Burn that fucking place down.

Not our problem, anymore. 
 

[HRSchenker 2341]

The victim in this case is now an elected official? Wow. Not saying anything bad about that, just surprised me. Art is such a liar and scumbag. You didn't read the book you allegedly wrote yourself? Really, ya piece of shit

[honolulu horn 6227]

On 8/11/2021 at 9:53 PM, Rimbo said:

the following entities and institutions can all go (officially) fuck themselves

1. baylor
2. art briles
3. kendall briles
4. the ncaa
5. the big xii
6. the big xii officiating crews
7. all the football players who ever played at baylor
8. bud selig
9. futureman
10. bob bowlsby
11. baylor (again)
12. penn state
13. joepa
14. that little boy fucking bitch that joepa protected
15. pedophiles everywhere
16. rapists everywhere
17. texas tech, because seriously, just fuck them and their stupid goddamn tortillas
18. everyone who ever defended any of these fuckheads

quoted for continued truth

[RomaVicta 30583]

21 minutes ago, statsman said:

Not our problem, anymore. 
 

Some might argue that criminal activity transcends conference affiliation.

[statsman 5693]

20 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Some might argue that criminal activity transcends conference affiliation.

Roma, previously I have written in depth about Waco. I won’t again, now, but let me state that it is very clear that Waco is atop an ancient, deep and powerful evil that has to manifest itself every few years in horrible ways. 
 
I don’t know how the Chip and Joanna Gaines story will end, but it will be horrific. Trust me- Baylor will not escape punishment. 

[Fuck Tim Beck 3904]

3 minutes ago, statsman said:

I don’t know how the Chip and Joanna Gaines story will end, but it will be horrific. 

Mt. Carmel 2 Electric boogaloo. Now featuring shiplap! 

[Nicole44 22313]

3 minutes ago, Fuck Tim Beck said:

Mt. Carmel 2 Electric boogaloo. Now featuring shiplap! 

I’d honestly not be surprised if Chip became their next HC. Aranda has a look on his face at games now that he wants out of Wacko. I think initially he thought, good town, God fearing folk, decent enough place to live…and then he saw behind the curtain. Behind the Chip and Joanna shiplapped billboards. Aranda finally sees IT. Waco is like Derry, Maine. 

[Mez2 4048]

Lol,  right.

 

And I'm Cindy lauwwper

[jimmyjazz 47184]

A lot of A&M fans have Briles on their radar.  Perfect fit.  Fire an idiot who you not only overpaid but extended, and hire a rape enabler who might be able to coach a little bit better.  What could go wrong?

Nothing.  Nothing could go wrong.  Do it.

[Frank Drebin 5835]

46 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

A lot of A&M fans have Briles on their radar.  Perfect fit.  Fire an idiot who you not only overpaid but extended, and hire a rape enabler who might be able to coach a little bit better.  What could go wrong?

Nothing.  Nothing could go wrong.  Do it.

Billy Liucci had to scrub thousands of Texags' posts on Jimbo enabling Winston's scumbaggery.  The Briles task will be significantly more difficult. 

[Rimbo 27014]

On 8/11/2021 at 8:53 PM, Rimbo said:

the following entities and institutions can all go (officially) fuck themselves

1. baylor
2. art briles
3. kendall briles
4. the ncaa
5. the big xii
6. the big xii officiating crews
7. all the football players who ever played at baylor
8. bud selig
9. futureman
10. bob bowlsby
11. baylor (again)
12. penn state
13. joepa
14. that little boy fucking bitch that joepa protected
15. pedophiles everywhere
16. rapists everywhere
17. texas tech, because seriously, just fuck them and their stupid goddamn tortillas
18. everyone who ever defended any of these fuckheads

all this time later, and I wouldn't change a thing

[LTtxfan 50003]

https://www.courthousenews.com/baylor-loses-negligence-case-over-football-player-assault-must-pay-270000/

 

[Deej 77816]

On 10/20/2023 at 11:48 AM, RomaVicta said:

Lying scumbag.

And most of Baylor would take him back in a moment.

Burn that fucking place down.

Most of Baylor would happily let Briles' players rape their daughters if it meant they were winning. 

Edited October 25, 2023 by Deej

[Deej 77816]

"She's just asking for it wearing those overalls."

- Art Briles

 

[kegman 187]

On 10/20/2023 at 1:43 PM, jimmyjazz said:

A lot of A&M fans have Briles on their radar.  Perfect fit.  Fire an idiot who you not only overpaid but extended, and hire a rape enabler who might be able to coach a little bit better.  What could go wrong?

Nothing.  Nothing could go wrong.  Do it.

With the way they hand out guaranteed money, it might not be a bad idea to hire a coach that you can always fire for cause. 

[Trey3216 15452]

11 hours ago, LTtxfan said:

https://www.courthousenews.com/baylor-loses-negligence-case-over-football-player-assault-must-pay-270000/

 

Word on the screets is she was looking for $3.5mm.   Got barely enough to cover the attorneys’ fees.    

[jimmyjazz 47184]

40 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Word on the screets is she was looking for $3.5mm.   Got barely enough to cover the attorneys’ fees.    

Wouldn't that be a contingency deal with the attorneys?  If so, she should get, what, $160K or so?  (Not sure if other expenses get taken off the top.)

Regardless, that's a shitty award.

[TrashMaster G 18088]

12 hours ago, Deej said:

"She's just asking for it wearing those overalls."

- Art Briles

 

Well.... She is.

[Frank Drebin 5835]

11 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Wouldn't that be a contingency deal with the attorneys?  If so, she should get, what, $160K or so?  (Not sure if other expenses get taken off the top.)

Regardless, that's a shitty award.

My understanding from a friend directly involved is that this plaintiff had a shitty case and is a serial plaintiff (something like 8 other lawsuits).

Screw Baylor though.  I hope they paid through the noses on the good cases.

[Trey3216 15452]

30 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

My understanding from a friend directly involved is that this plaintiff had a shitty case and is a serial plaintiff (something like 8 other lawsuits).

Screw Baylor though.  I hope they paid through the noses on the good cases.

She’s definitely a serial plaintiff.  

[Newdoc 3511]

Serial plaintiffs definitely suffer “the boy who cried wolf” once they’re outed. I’ve seen that in a family member involved in a racial discrimination suit. Those plaintiffs don’t give a crap whose lives they turn upside down. Neither do their lawyers.

It also gives Baylor apologists more reasons to keep their head stuck in the sand about the utter failure of their athletic department and administration.

Edited October 25, 2023 by Newdoc

[redswingline 1124]

3 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

Word on the screets is she was looking for $3.5mm.   Got barely enough to cover the attorneys’ fees.    

She should have hired the Texas hammer

 

[Vertigo 20492]

[Richard Kimball 1523]

FWIW, I thought Briles should have been fired after the Ukwuachu deal. Guy left Boise State under sketchy circumstances and there was a rape accusation against him less than a month after he hit the Baylor campus. I watched him multiple times practicing with no jersey number. Asked Briles and Phil Bennett about it, and both said there were just some eligibility things to clear up. Regularly checked the arrest and court records, but apparently everything was sealed, cause I never found anything out until months later, when all the rest the press knew about it. 

On the Chafin thing (the plaintiff was his girlfriend) I interviewed him, then he asked me not to use it. The court reporting backed up his story, so I guess my agreement not to talk about it is moot. She was his girlfriend. Got pregnant. Her dad was pissed and told her to get an abortion. She did. Went to Chafin's apartment and started screaming at him about not standing up to her dad. Claims that's when he assaulted her, but I think every time she accused him of assaulting her, it was after she'd gone to his apartment, so...most of it is he said, she said as to what actually happened. He claims he never hit her and only grabbed her arms to keep her from hitting him. She claims otherwise. 

I thought Ukwuachu was a psycho rapist, and Chafin was a dumb fuck that got mixed up with a psycho chick. 

The jury threw out the claims against Briles and Ian McCaw. My take has always been that Briles did a lot of stuff he shouldn't have done, but the school tried to use him as their judas goat for all institutional failings. That's why they gave him a multi-million dollar settlement in exchange for a non-disclosure instead of firing him for cause. 

[nnm 37904]

7 minutes ago, Richard Kimball said:

My take has always been that Briles did a lot of stuff he shouldn't have done, but the school tried to use him as their judas goat for all institutional failings. That's why they gave him a multi-million dollar settlement in exchange for a non-disclosure instead of firing him for cause. 

You’re obviously much closer to it and know much more about it than I am/do, but I think you nailed it at the end. The problem wasn’t created by Briles, but he sure as heck took advantage of the despicable culture at BU.  That culture likes to think of themselves and their students as pure, undefiled, virtuous saints-in-the-making. Bad things simply don’t happen there. Athletic success is proof of their moral superiority, and they’ll do anything to enable it. 
When bad things do happen (as such things do), the issue is quickly covered up and the girl is shunned, put away, shamed. That didn’t only happen with the football team (the frats were doing it too), but Briles and his demon spawn certainly took advantage of it and took it to new heights. 
That culture enabled Bliss, enabled Briles, and will positively lead to another deplorable scandal in the future in which people’s lives are ruined. 
A coed at Baylor probably is marginally safer there than at big state U.  But when the worst happens, she is the absolute worst place for her.

OUsux, TAMU is annoying and ridiculous.  Baylor is different. There is an underlying depravity to Baylor’s culture that is revolting. I don’t care about their sports. But I despise their culture and their school. 

[Trey3216 15452]

8 hours ago, Richard Kimball said:

FWIW, I thought Briles should have been fired after the Ukwuachu deal. Guy left Boise State under sketchy circumstances and there was a rape accusation against him less than a month after he hit the Baylor campus. I watched him multiple times practicing with no jersey number. Asked Briles and Phil Bennett about it, and both said there were just some eligibility things to clear up. Regularly checked the arrest and court records, but apparently everything was sealed, cause I never found anything out until months later, when all the rest the press knew about it. 

On the Chafin thing (the plaintiff was his girlfriend) I interviewed him, then he asked me not to use it. The court reporting backed up his story, so I guess my agreement not to talk about it is moot. She was his girlfriend. Got pregnant. Her dad was pissed and told her to get an abortion. She did. Went to Chafin's apartment and started screaming at him about not standing up to her dad. Claims that's when he assaulted her, but I think every time she accused him of assaulting her, it was after she'd gone to his apartment, so...most of it is he said, she said as to what actually happened. He claims he never hit her and only grabbed her arms to keep her from hitting him. She claims otherwise. 

I thought Ukwuachu was a psycho rapist, and Chafin was a dumb fuck that got mixed up with a psycho chick. 

The jury threw out the claims against Briles and Ian McCaw. My take has always been that Briles did a lot of stuff he shouldn't have done, but the school tried to use him as their judas goat for all institutional failings. That's why they gave him a multi-million dollar settlement in exchange for a non-disclosure instead of firing him for cause. 

I’ve got a picture of Chafin somewhere shortly after one of the visits from Lozano.   Dude is cut and bruised all over his upper body.   Go dig up all the recent tweets from Chafin’s wife about Lozano’s crazy.    It’s mind-numbing how crazy that bitch is.  

[Frank Drebin 5835]

4 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

I’ve got a picture of Chafin somewhere shortly after one of the visits from Lozano.   Dude is cut and bruised all over his upper body.   Go dig up all the recent tweets from Chafin’s wife about Lozano’s crazy.    It’s mind-numbing how crazy that bitch is.  

She’s the one elected Justice of Peace in Houston.  On her campaign website she makes a big deal about being a sexual assault survivor.  

[statsman 5693]

9 hours ago, Richard Kimball said:

FWIW, I thought Briles should have been fired after the Ukwuachu deal. Guy left Boise State under sketchy circumstances and there was a rape accusation against him less than a month after he hit the Baylor campus. I watched him multiple times practicing with no jersey number. Asked Briles and Phil Bennett about it, and both said there were just some eligibility things to clear up. Regularly checked the arrest and court records, but apparently everything was sealed, cause I never found anything out until months later, when all the rest the press knew about it. 

On the Chafin thing (the plaintiff was his girlfriend) I interviewed him, then he asked me not to use it. The court reporting backed up his story, so I guess my agreement not to talk about it is moot. She was his girlfriend. Got pregnant. Her dad was pissed and told her to get an abortion. She did. Went to Chafin's apartment and started screaming at him about not standing up to her dad. Claims that's when he assaulted her, but I think every time she accused him of assaulting her, it was after she'd gone to his apartment, so...most of it is he said, she said as to what actually happened. He claims he never hit her and only grabbed her arms to keep her from hitting him. She claims otherwise. 

I thought Ukwuachu was a psycho rapist, and Chafin was a dumb fuck that got mixed up with a psycho chick. 

The jury threw out the claims against Briles and Ian McCaw. My take has always been that Briles did a lot of stuff he shouldn't have done, but the school tried to use him as their judas goat for all institutional failings. That's why they gave him a multi-million dollar settlement in exchange for a non-disclosure instead of firing him for cause. 

Baylor gave Briles a multi-million dollar settlement, instead of firing him for cause, because his attorney made it clear there would be a trial otherwise, and everything would be out in the open. Baylor’s initial plan was to fire him for cause, but his attorney dared them to try. 
 
Baylor has been consistent through this- paying millions for silence. They have that shiny stadium that celebrates a Heisman and Big XII champions, and they have paid tens of millions to keep people from learning what it is built on. The whispered allegations will stay until Baylor actually comes clean with all that went down. 

Edited October 26, 2023 by statsman

[Homercles 10206]

Anytime I’ve been in Waco I get the same feeling as reading It for the first time…Waco = Derry