Art Briles: New Head Coach of Mount Vernon High School in Texas

[Bullneck 18983]

On 10/10/2019 at 10:20 AM, Eternal Noob said:

That's what I'm getting too, but it doesn't square with his actions where he's actually helping him break rules of competition. Does Briles have a Jim Jonesian level of charisma with these rubes where they believe wrong is right because he says so?

(reply to texifornia)

He wins.  You can't deny that.  If he didn't they wouldn't put up with him.

[Not a cat 5615]

31 minutes ago, Hpara759 said:

33-8  Jefferson HS at half

Art getting his clock cleaned

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[Beau Vine 53978]

1 hour ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

Aren’t the 2 guys out his main horses on offense?

Yeah, but Jefferson is really good.  They would have been favored even if those kids had been eligible.  And they play Atlanta next week; they're gonna get their asses kicked.  

If the UIL makes MV forfeit last week's game, they might have trouble making the playoffs.  

[Etexhorn13 3034]

Y’all are welcome. I don’t often give a shit about my shitty alma mater, but that’s a nice little scalp right there. Fuck art briles 

Edited October 12, 2019 by Etexhorn13

[Armybrat 40710]

Art, how does it feel getting gang raped and being laughed at afterwards?

[Bozo_Casanova 26271]

We are all Jefferson

[relapse98 634]

Aww, poor Mount Vernon lost, bigly.

Fuck Art Briles and anyone at Mount Vernon that supports this horrible excuse for a human.

[markstanco 12501]

PG won, rape enabler lost, now here's to hoping Herman calls play #8 early and often, then aggy gets embarrassed a third time this season.

[williemackgarza 1826]

Ol bud kilmer lioks like shit when his ringers are kicked off the time.
Imagine that

[Nivek 16843]

OU sucks.

[Jkwellborn 6651]

PG won, rape enabler lost, now here's to hoping Herman calls play #8 early and often, then aggy gets embarrassed a third time this season.

You mean 5th. Auburn and pig were pretty embarrassing. Especially the pig game.

[texifornia 56479]

@SydneyCarton, your big Deadspin longread is here: https://deadspin.com/what-art-briles-brought-to-the-town-that-never-asked-fo-1838408237

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It brought them a guy willing to grab a helping hand, and to let everyone believe that it was offered only in the name of redemption. It brought them a guy desperate to relaunch his career, so much so that he was willing to execute, or at least not ask any questions about, a scheme to bring him two star players he didn’t deserve. It brought them constant unwanted attention, and now it has brought them a scandal. It brought them Art Briles, and all that he’s ever been.

 

[C-Man 27029]

18 minutes ago, texifornia said:

@SydneyCarton, your big Deadspin longread is here: https://deadspin.com/what-art-briles-brought-to-the-town-that-never-asked-fo-1838408237

 

Here's the story in entirety:

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MOUNT VERNON, Texas – There had never been a line like this before. Not here, at least. It was ridiculous, obscene. The first people in line queued up just before 4:30 p.m. They stood there, up against the closed ticket window, huddling underneath the small awning as it poured rain, and then, when the rain stopped, they waited patiently in the brutal east Texas humidity. By the time the windows rolled up and the tickets were available for purchase an hour later, the line had grown to contain at least 200 people, all standing with stadium chairs, and all gossiping.

They were there to see a high school football game, which—no matter what you’ve heard about Texas high school football or how many episodes of Friday Night Lights you’ve watched—is an absurd thing to happen in this town. They weren’t standing outside a 6A stadium that’s home to a football team that will produce college recruits. They were waiting to watch a football team that would consistently underthrow passes, that would play boys in pads that look too big for them, that would miss easy extra-point kicks. This is 3A ball. Sure, it was a rivalry game, and it turned out to be a nice night by the time the lights buzzed to life and the opposing high school received the kickoff at 7:30 p.m. But that is not why people from two small towns turned out in droves.

They came because the stakes are high this year. This game wasn’t just about whether you’re from Winnsboro or Mount Vernon. This game wasn’t even about the fact that Winnsboro stole Mount Vernon’s head coach at the end of the last school year. No, this game, like every game this season, like every damn conversation in Mount Vernon this summer, was about Art Briles.

From the minute the school board voted him in, Art Briles has been a point of contention. No one wanted to talk on the record. They’ve been there, done that. ESPN came, did you know? The Los Angeles Times was here, too. People will talk, sure, but you can’t use their name. Everyone has a lot to say. Or really, everyone has the same thing to say, and they’ll get it all out in a tight five minutes, as if they were handed a flyer with talking points.

Here is what the people of Mount Vernon have to say: Art Briles is the football coach. What happened at Baylor is unclear. He deserves a second chance. We are Christians here; we believe in forgiveness. I wasn’t crazy about the idea at first, but the football team is undefeated.

Or at least, they were undefeated when I was there to watch the Sept. 20th game against Winnsboro. Last Friday night, the Mount Vernon Tigers lost 47-16 to the Jefferson High School Bulldogs. Mount Vernon got rocked. Several people texted during the game describing the play as “brutal” and “not even close.” The mood in the stands, they said, was “frustrated” and “somber.”

The loss had everything to do with Briles, just as the wins that came before it and the crowds filling up a historically sleepy high school football stadium had everything to do with him. It wasn’t a loss born out of any strategic or coaching failures, but of a standard-issue high school sports scandal discovered within the aftershocks of Briles’s sudden arrival in town. It was a loss that helped clarify what exactly Art Briles’s relationship with Mount Vernon is, and what both parties stand to reap from their union.

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Mount Vernon, Texas—anyone will tell you—is more than just the town where Art Briles coaches. Briles, they say, is from Baylor, but this is the home of “Dandy” Don Meredith. Drive over there, by the Baptist church, and you’ll pass his childhood home. There’s a sign in the front yard to honor him.

Art Briles is only here, a dozen people tell me, because Mount Vernon needed a coach. You see, they lost a good coach last year. After going to the playoffs, longtime Mount Vernon head coach Josh Finney transferred to their rival school, Winnsboro, where he grew up, and the Mount Vernon team was in a bind. That’s why the attendance at the Winnsboro game was so high. Nobody could resist the drama of watching their new, controversial coach take on their former, beloved coach. At the merchandise stand, T-shirts hung up for sale. One had a play drawn on the front of it, another had Briles’s photo on it. Both shirts had the coach’s name in all capital letters: BRILES.

 

T-shirts displayed for sale at the Mount Vernon versus Winnsboro game Photo: Kelsey McKinney

Snagging Briles as a head coach seemed like a no-brainer from a football perspective. “Are people excited about Briles? Absolutely,” Erin Gordineer, a Mount Vernon resident and parent said. “When you can give your kids the best available coach why wouldn’t you be excited?” Successful D1 college coaches don’t just fall into the laps of 3A high school programs, and that makes Briles something of a dream hire. Especially if you’re able or willing to forget a few things.

Briles arrived in Mount Vernon with a record and a stain. At Baylor, he went 65-37. He was also the head coach of a program where the Board of Regents reported that 19 rapes were committed by 17 football players from 2011 to 2016; where a woman who claimed she was raped by a Baylor football player settled a lawsuit that alleged 52 acts or rape carried out by 31 players; where documents provided by Briles in 2018 showed that he and “multiple senior Baylor administrators knew about a serial sexual assault assailant” within the football program in 2011, but did nothing about it; where the full report about Baylor, created by a law firm hired by the university to investigate what exactly happened and who exactly was responsible for the fact that many of these crimes were never reported law enforcement, was never released to the public.

Which of those things matters more?

 

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Does it matter more that Art Briles built 4A Stephenville High School from a non-competitive program into one that won four state championships in the 90s, or that one of his players there was accused of raping a fellow student in the spring of 1991, and that when confronted by the victim’s father, Briles said, “What do you want me to do?” and continued to play him?

After Briles was fired as Baylor’s head coach in May of 2016, he was considered for jobs with the Cleveland Browns, the Houston Cougars, the FAU Owls, and the Southern Miss Golden Eagles. He was hired at none of those programs, and ended up taking jobs in Canada and Italy.

On May 24, the same day as the high school graduation ceremony, while many members of the community were otherwise occupied with celebrating the class of 2019, the Mount Vernon ISD Board of Trustees approved a two-year contract for Art Briles.

“I can’t possibly forgive him,” one of them said, “he hasn’t even ever said he’s sorry.”

Inside the Franklin County Community Discussions Facebook group, a debate has been raging since the minute Briles was hired. Articles about what happened at Baylor have been linked, spurring dozens of comments. A few people argue that hiring Briles was a morally corrupt decision. They say this isn’t good for the town and it certainly isn’t good for the kids. Brian Ball, who describes himself as a town disruptor, says, “Hiring Art Briles is just about the stupidest thing this town could do. It just really shows that what Mount Vernon wants is to win football games, and they don’t care what it takes or who it hurts to do that.”

Some people don’t seem to care. “I don’t know what the big deal is, he’s just a coach,” a woman named Kerstin told me at the Franklin County Genealogical Society. “If it brings good people to our town and increases our property value, I’m good with that.” Inside the Facebook group, for every negative comment about Briles, there are two positive ones. JV cheerleaders told me they think he left Baylor because “something unfair happened, but I dunno what.”

Only one woman, Lauren Lewis, was at the school board meeting to speak out against the hire. “The message it’s sending to the young women in this community, and the young women at Baylor and sexual assault survivors everywhere, it’s just ugly and so embarrassing,” she said. Several survivors of sexual assault who live in Mount Vernon expressed similar sentiments to me. Quietly, in their homes, they tell their friends and their kids that Briles’s employment is painful to them. But speaking out on this topic puts a target on your back. “I can’t possibly forgive him,” one of them said, “he hasn’t even ever said he’s sorry.”

At the only press conference given by Briles since the season began, a reporter asked him if he felt like he owed anyone an apology. “If you’re asking about Baylor, that’s been addressed in a statement,” Briles said. The statement given to reporters by a publicist hired by the school district read: “What the public has been led to believe about Coach Briles is flatly false.”

“After a thorough due diligence process and several earnest conversations, we believe our students will benefit greatly from his skills and experience,” Superintendent Dr. Jason McCullough said at the school board meeting. No further information on what the “due diligence process” looked like has been made available. As of publication, Dr. McCullough did not respond to request for comment or questions sent by Deadspin.

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One unanswered question is how exactly Briles ended up in Mount Vernon. He’s not from there, he has no apparent personal or sentimental attachment to the town, and for all that he’s done to tarnish his career and reputation, 3A high school football is closer to the bottom of the barrel than most people might have expected him to scrape. People in town say the girls’ basketball team is just as beloved as the football team.

Briles did not end up in Mount Vernon by accident. Multiple sources confirmed that initial contact with Briles was made by Leigh Anne Ramsay, who now lives in Mount Vernon with her husband and kids, who worked for Briles at Baylor as Assistant Director of Campus Recruiting. She connected Briles with her husband, Landon Ramsay, who attended Baylor law school and worked a district attorney in Waco until 2018 before moving back home to practice law in Mount Vernon. After Briles was hired and people started wondering whose idea it was to bring him to town, Leigh Anne Ramsay deleted all of the information off of her personal LinkedIn page. Landon and Leigh Anne Ramsay did not respond to requests for comment.

  Photo: Tony Gutierrez (AP)

There is no “just hired” in Mount Vernon, people tell me on background. This is a small town. People know each other, and they know each other’s business. It’s not small enough for everyone to know everything, but its certainly small enough that word about the high school planning to hire Art Briles should have gotten around before the school board voted him in.

Despite the narrative that this is just another Texas town obsessed with winning football games over everything else, people from Mount Vernon assured me that football isn’t that big of a priority to them. The stands, they promised, have never been this full. The tickets for Friday home games have never sold out during pre-sales. This is something rare. This is something new. This isn’t a town that wanted to win above everything else and begged for the people in charge to bring them a coach who could do that. It’s a town that had to decide what it thought after they’d already been told who the new coach would be. The line in the sand was already drawn: Were you with Briles, the Baptist church, and the school, or were you with the national media?

The press, many people in Mount Vernon want you to know, is the problem here. According to Briles’s supporters, no one in town has a problem with his hiring (this is false), the reports of protests have been overblown (fair), and there is absolutely, positively nothing to see here.

“I assume you’ll be honest, not like The New York Times,” a local named Donny said to me in the genealogical society, “You’ll see that we just want to win.”

Briles’s supporters speak of redemption. Doesn’t everyone, they ask, deserve a second chance? Isn’t it the Christian thing, the right thing, to do to let him try again? But it was already clear what Briles gets out of a job at Mount Vernon high school: he gets a safe harbor, a chance to prove himself, a launching pad that could possibly send him back into a tier of coaching more fitting of his record. His contract at Mount Vernon is for two years, but the talk around town is that the lease he signed is only for nine months, the length of one school year.

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Before the Winnsboro game, people in town warned me. The team looked really good this season; too good, maybe. Mainly, they said, watch the brothers.

In the first five plays of the Winnsboro game, only three players touched the ball. It was a trend that would carry for most of the game. Mount Vernon wasn’t running particularly complicated plays, and they weren’t on the whole that much better than their opponents. They just had, as many dominant teams at the 3A and 4A and even 5A levels do, a couple of star players.

Those stars were a pair of brothers, the starting quarterback and running back, who had conveniently moved to Mount Vernon from Colorado right around the time Briles was hired. Last Tuesday, both players were ruled ineligible to play for Mount Vernon after the University Interscholastic League (UIL) determined that they had moved to Mount Vernon for “athletic purposes.”

When I visited Mount Vernon in late September, the two brothers were thought to be in the clear. Someone had previously reported them to the UIL for violating residency requirements, but the district executive committee voted in favor of Mount Vernon. Three members of the committee voted, three abstained, and one member wasn’t allowed to vote because of a conflict of interest. The UIL’s latest ruling supersedes the initial decision that found the brothers to be eligible.

“I’m real skeptical,” a mother of a Winnsboro player said to me while the brothers thrashed her son’s team. “Smells fishy to me.”

  Photo: Kelsey McKinney (G/O Media)

On the Mount Vernon side, the narrative was different. Listen, they said, those boys were just ruled innocent. Anybody telling you otherwise is out looking for trouble. When I asked if there was trouble to find, everyone said no, of course not. No trouble here.

Still, their names were on everyone’s lips. Who moves all the way from Colorado, everyone asked, to live in Mount Vernon?

UIL has very strict rules about when a high school student can transfer and how. Recruiting is strictly prohibited by UIL Texas rules, but so is transferring schools for athletic purposes. The eligibility rules state that the district executive committees should look closely at players who are transferring to play with a specific coach. For the boys in question, that coach was Lynx Hawthorne.

Hawthorne played for Briles at Baylor as a wide receiver from 2013–2016 and briefly in Italy. He wears his curly black hair tied in a low bun at the base of his neck, which makes him easy to spot. At both the varsity and JV games against Winnsboro, he was almost always within 10 feet of Briles. He stood in the huddle. He listened. He spoke with a few players after Briles left the field.

Hawthorne does not officially work for the Mount Vernon school district, but in early reports about Briles’s move to the town, he was described as an assistant coach. Hawthorne moved into a trailer park inside the school district’s borders, people in town say. He spoke with the media after Mount Vernon’s first football practice. He is also married to a cousin of the two brothers from Colorado.

At the first hearing in September, the boys were ruled eligible because their parents and Dr. McCullough claimed that Hawthorne would not be coaching, and was instead in town to film a documentary. (Several sources confirmed that there is a documentary crew in Mount Vernon, and that they have not gotten permission from parents to film the students. One source said that there is some animosity within the Mount Vernon high school administration because “all Briles seems to do is sit in his office and film that documentary.”)

At the second hearing, though, the district executive committee overruled their previous decision with a 6-0 vote to disqualify the brothers. Not only had Hawthorne been seen on the field wearing a headset during a scrimmage this year, he’d been seen talking to players, and was clearly coaching. On top of that, the brothers listed an inaccurate address on the UIL’s form for athletic transfers. The brothers, according to multiple sources, live in the same RV park with Hawthorne. On that transfer form, WFAA reported, the address listed for the brothers belongs to the owner of the RV park, Randy Wafford, who did not respond to request for comment.

According to the UIL, Mount Vernon’s football program will not have to forfeit any of their previously won games because the brothers had been ruled eligible at the first hearing. Mount Vernon claimed in a statement that the brothers moved to Mount Vernon for “employment reasons.” They will appeal the ruling, and the case will be reviewed by the State Executive Committee.

“I hope they are eligible to play and that UIL clears them,” Jennifer Marie Holland, a Mount Vernon high school parent, says. “It would be devastating to my son not to be able to participate in band. As a mom, my heart breaks for the kids.”

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What do the people of Mount Vernon have to gain from all of this? Briles landed in this town like a meteor, and he brought with him not only constant scrutiny and media attention, but complicated moral and ethical questions that everyone in town had to sort out in their own way. There was always a silver lining to point to, though, even in a town that’s not exactly football-crazed: Art Briles was going to win a lot of games.

Everyone I spoke to that considered themselves a supporter of Briles brought up the fact that he was undefeated, over and over again. But now that his two unfairly acquired star players have been declared ineligible, he has lost, and he has brought a fresh scandal to Mount Vernon.

Acquiring two star players under shady circumstances is not on the same spectrum of moral failures that cost Briles his job at Baylor, but there are echos to be heard. Just like at Baylor, Briles has given his program the image of one that is willing to behave unethically in order to win games. Just like at Baylor, Briles’s specific role in the scandal is hard to pin down.

“If Art Briles was really here for redemption, if he really wanted to clear his name, he would run a 100 percent squeaky clean operation”

It’s Hawthorne, the guy who played for Briles at Baylor and in Italy, who is a direct link to the brothers from Colorado, and right now there’s no evidence that Briles personally recruited them to Mount Vernon. Briles didn’t even appear at either hearing about the boys’ eligibility. He wasn’t required to be there, and so he didn’t go. He also declined to comment on this story.

“The thing is, you would think if Art Briles was really here for redemption, if he really wanted to clear his name, he would run a 100 percent squeaky clean operation,” Brian Ball says. “But he didn’t. He’s been here a few months and things are already a mess.”

Maybe Mount Vernon high school will come up with a reasonable explanation for how two stud football players from Colorado ended up in Texas, living near and playing for a former Baylor football player who is married to their cousin, and the brothers will be reinstated. Or maybe they won’t, and Briles won’t even be able to deliver on the promise of winning a lot of football games in a town that’s never cared all that much about football. Whatever happens from here on out, the people of Mount Vernon should have an easier time understanding what exactly the arrival of this disgraced football coach has brought them.

It brought them a guy willing to grab a helping hand, and to let everyone believe that it was offered only in the name of redemption. It brought them a guy desperate to relaunch his career, so much so that he was willing to execute, or at least not ask any questions about, a scheme to bring him two star players he didn’t deserve. It brought them constant unwanted attention, and now it has brought them a scandal. It brought them Art Briles, and all that he’s ever been.

 

[SydneyCarton 47836]

1 hour ago, texifornia said:

@SydneyCarton, your big Deadspin longread is here: https://deadspin.com/what-art-briles-brought-to-the-town-that-never-asked-fo-1838408237

 

Thanks @texifornia. Great article. I guess despite what some dipshits here and elsewhere say, some people and several major news outlets continue to care about Art Briles being a piece of shit. 

@Jkwellborn do you care to comment about the part of the article that cites several victims of sexual assault in Mount Vernon, much less the 1 in 3 women in the United States who will be  victims of sexual assault in their lives, care very deeply and are bothered by his presence there? Or are you still sticking to the fact that no one other than the coaches on his schedule give a shit? 

[Newdoc 3429]

The referenced article is pretty damning. There’s a lot of smoke coming from Mount Vernon. That old colloquialism about Tiger ...stripes....and so on and so forth.

[Jkwellborn 6651]

Thanks [mention=384]texifornia[/mention]. Great article. I guess despite what some dipshits here and elsewhere say, some people and several major news outlets continue to care about Art Briles being a piece of shit. 
[mention=234]Jkwellborn[/mention] do you care to comment about the part of the article that cites several victims of sexual assault in Mount Vernon, much less the 1 in 3 women in the United States who will be  victims of sexual assault in their lives, care very deeply and are bothered by his presence there? Or are you still sticking to the fact that no one other than the coaches on his schedule give a shit? 

So you are of the opinion that people give a damn that podunk 3a Mount Vernon had a couple of players ruled ineligible? You know know one really cares about that unless they have to face them. I wasn’t taking about Briles being there, but you are smart enough to know that.

[texifornia 56479]

1 minute ago, Jkwellborn said:

So you are of the opinion that people give a damn that podunk 3a Mount Vernon had a couple of players ruled ineligible? You know know one really cares about that unless they have to face them. I wasn’t taking about Briles being there, but you are smart enough to know that.

The ineligible players themselves aren't the problem. It's that obviously flouting the rules, combined with carting a documentary crew around, clearly show that Briles is the same slimy motherfucker he's always been and MV has sold their souls for football (in a town that doesn't seem to care all that much about it compared to others). And what THAT means is it makes a lot of the women in town feel (rightly) unsafe and unheard.

[Jkwellborn 6651]

The ineligible players themselves aren't the problem. It's that obviously flouting the rules, combined with carting a documentary crew around, clearly show that Briles is the same slimy motherfucker he's always been and MV has sold their souls for football (in a town that doesn't seem to care all that much about it compared to others). And what THAT means is it makes a lot of the women in town feel (rightly) unsafe and unheard.

I was simply talking about the ineligible players. Most of the us agree that Briles piece of shit that should never be allowed to coach young men again. I’ll admit that I didn’t know how bad he was until the shit hit the fan for him at Baylor. All I had ever heard was that he would edit out the offense on tapes he traded with other coaches.

If one of the victims or their family put a bullet in him, I’d let them walk if I was on the jury.

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2723]

Heading out for some hunting there this weekend. Are they playing at home?

[SydneyCarton 47836]

56 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

I was simply talking about the ineligible players. Most of the us agree that Briles piece of shit that should never be allowed to coach young men again. I’ll admit that I didn’t know how bad he was until the shit hit the fan for him at Baylor. All I had ever heard was that he would edit out the offense on tapes he traded with other coaches.

If one of the victims or their family put a bullet in him, I’d let them walk if I was on the jury.

If you waded through this entire thread and your only thought of response was for ineligible players, then congrats on not seeing the Forest for the Trees. That’s probably the most flattering illustration of you there is at this point. 16 pages of an Art Briles POS tour of a thread but you want to wade into the minutia of eligibility. Ok. It’s a good thing you clarified your position on his homicide via jury vote, because without that I’m guessing most of this thread would have pegged you as an apologist at worst, or just a tone deaf, rock headed dipshit at best. Well let you pick. 
 

Im sorry you never heard worst than tape editing. I’ve heard worse, though. Including steroid doping programs, ignoring player rape, and star players committing robbery and still playing while the man of god interferes with local police procedure. 

[SydneyCarton 47836]

1 hour ago, Jkwellborn said:

So you are of the opinion that people give a damn that podunk 3a Mount Vernon had a couple of players ruled ineligible? You know know one really cares about that unless they have to face them. I wasn’t taking about Briles being there, but you are smart enough to know that.

Clearly I and Others aren’t that smart. But clearly you aren’t smart enough to understand there’s no separating one from the other and hasn’t been for years concerning Briles. And there shouldn’t be. So why would you even try? What grand point were you trying to make as media outlet after media outlet continued to churn out new stories? 
 

And let’s not ignore the fact that local sexual assault victims are on the record as saying that the success of Briles haunts them. But I guess those people don’t matter in your mind. 
 

Or you can just admit you made a stupid, thoughtless statement. 

[markstanco 12501]

Heading out for some hunting there this weekend. Are they playing at home?

Yes. 7:30. They will likely lose as well.

[Beau Vine 53978]

1 hour ago, Jkwellborn said:

So you are of the opinion that people give a damn that podunk 3a Mount Vernon had a couple of players ruled ineligible? You know know one really cares about that unless they have to face them. I wasn’t taking about Briles being there, but you are smart enough to know that.

If you really want to parse it, people don't care that the kids are ruled ineligible, you dullard.  

People care that the team coached by Coach I Have Never Done Anything Immoral, Illegal or Unethical is in trouble with the UIL, which has thus far shown more balls than the NCAA or the Big XII.  

[nnm 36041]

1 hour ago, Jkwellborn said:

If one of the victims or their family put a bullet in him, I’d let them walk if I was on the jury.

 

34 minutes ago, T’Boo Ted Marshall said:

Heading out for some hunting there this weekend. Are they playing at home?

The juxtaposition of these two replies is interesting. 

[Homercles 10205]

Reading that article is like reading IT, where the people of Derry bury their heads in the sand at the monster that has arrived to eat their kids.  

[Boogaloo 268]

I'm still chuckling about how Art has brought crootin' controversy to 3A football 

[Nowhichski 32]

How did Baylor avoid any punishment from the NCAA for a criminal rape culture and coverup? 

Programs used to get beat down just for giving kids jobs. 

[Armybrat 40710]

5 minutes ago, Nowhichski said:

How did Baylor avoid any punishment from the NCAA for a criminal rape culture and coverup? 

Programs used to get beat down just for giving kids jobs. 

Babtist influence?

And how did the Rangers not investigate the obvious manipulation of the local law enforcement & DA’s office?

(yeah, I know where Fort Fisher & Company F is, along with the American Football Coaches Association headquarters)

Edited October 17, 2019 by Armybrat

[Big Frog II 511]

52 minutes ago, Nowhichski said:

How did Baylor avoid any punishment from the NCAA for a criminal rape culture and coverup? 

Programs used to get beat down just for giving kids jobs. 

The NCAA has not yet punished them.  Baylor and Briles both ask for more time to respond to the findings by the NCAA.  After that is done, the penalty will be announced.

[Beau Vine 53978]

3 minutes ago, Big Frog II said:

The NCAA has not yet punished them.  Baylor and Briles both ask for more time to respond to the findings by the NCAA.  After that is done, the NCAA will have moved on to things more important to them.

fify

[Nowhichski 32]

1 hour ago, Big Frog II said:

The NCAA has not yet punished them.  Baylor and Briles both ask for more time to respond to the findings by the NCAA.  After that is done, the penalty will be announced.

Any time frame on this? Is there a deadline? 

[nnm 36041]

1 hour ago, Big Frog II said:

The NCAA has not yet punished them.  Baylor and Briles both ask for more time to respond to the findings by the NCAA.  After that is done, the penalty will be announced.

NCAA got confused and took away the University of Mary Hardin Baylor's national championship from 2017.  So they probably think they're all done with the Baylor mess.  

[Dennis Taylor 18690]

UIL denies appeal, Mellor brothers still ineligible

 

https://www.dallasnews.com/high-school-sports/football/2019/10/22/uil-rules-two-mount-vernon-players-coached-by-art-briles-ineligible-after-appeal/ 

[Jkwellborn 6651]

Was coming to post this. Heard about it right after it happened.

[Fuck Tim Beck 3806]

So as it turns out the UIL has more balls than the NCAA. 

[Scheiss Meister 8398]

I'm sure that Mount Vernon and Baylor fans will blame that decision on the fact that UT administers the UIL, not on the fact that those two players very obviously moved in for athletic purposes and were recruited by people linked to Briles.

[Tex Pete 20156]

20 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

I'm sure that Mount Vernon and Baylor fans will blame that decision on the fact that UT administers the UIL, not on the fact that those two players very obviously moved in for athletic purposes and were recruited by people linked to Briles.

See: avatar.

[Lerka Lerka 1084]

The guy has consistently been a holier than tho, lying, cheating, scumbag, pos loser since day 1. Dude just needs to have a massive heart attack and move on. 

[nnm 36041]

Dude, he's never done anything illegal, unethical, or immoral.  Do you even read, bro?

https://www.wacotrib.com/sports/baylor/football/briles-says-he-s-never-done-anything-unethical/article_2e832b6c-ada1-52a4-95ed-8a5752901aa9.html

OTOH, if he's the upstanding Christian he purports to be, he should be aware of Romans 3:10-12, Psalm 14:3, Isaiah 53:6, Isaiah 59:13-15, Romans 3:23, etc., etc.  

[Jkwellborn 6651]

The guy has consistently been a holier than tho, lying, cheating, scumbag, pos loser since day 1. Dude just needs to have a massive heart attack and move on. 

My best friend died yesterday morning of a heart attack. Hits close to home and shit.

[Call 393]

A living pile of human excrement. 

[El Squared 1792]

6 hours ago, Fuck Tim Beck said:

So as it turns out the UIL has more balls than the NCAA. 

The hypocrisy is that if you loan out a used Subaru or sell a bowl game ring, it’s curtains, but raping women in Florida or Texas is not a problem. Neither is getting paid 100s of thousands of Dollars for a fake church in Alabama.

the NCAA has nanotestes unless it’s about swatting gnats, then they swell up Kong’s nads.

Edited October 23, 2019 by El Squared

[tx 3 putt 76296]

On 10/17/2019 at 1:22 PM, Nowhichski said:

How did Baylor avoid any punishment from the NCAA for a criminal rape culture and coverup? 

Programs used to get beat down just for giving kids jobs. 

 

lots of prayer !

[Nivek 16843]

The hypocrisy is that if you loan out a used Subaru or sell a bowl game ring, it’s curtains, but raping women in Florida or Texas is not a problem. Neither is getting paid 100s of thousands of Dollars for a fake church in Alabama.
the NCAA has nanotestes unless it’s about swatting gnats, then they swell up Kong’s nads.

More likely they are staffed by alumni of the programs they pretend to oversee. Look how little they care about obvious referee bullshit. As long as the checks come, they don’t care. They very much like the NBA in that regard.

[Boogaloo 268]

Uh oh another loss 31-14 at Hooks ... the wheels are coming off Arts redemption season now that his ineligible players are off the team 

[Scooter Monzingo 820]

On 10/22/2019 at 8:11 PM, El Squared said:

The hypocrisy is that if you loan out a used Subaru or sell a bowl game ring, it’s curtains, but raping women in Florida or Texas is not a problem. Neither is getting paid 100s of thousands of Dollars for a fake church in Alabama.

the NCAA has nanotestes unless it’s about swatting gnats, then they swell up Kong’s nads.

No, the NCAA practices what has been done in financial institutions in England for over 700 years. Protect thy investment.

[nnm 36041]

32 minutes ago, Boogaloo said:

Uh oh another loss 31-14 at Hooks ... the wheels are coming off Arts redemption season now that his ineligible players are off the team 

And yet the pinnacle of BU’s football success in 2014 (11-2, losses to WVU and the BU kicker killer cotton bowl loss to MSU) stands, despite playing multiple players that should have been ineligible because of rape.  Take away Briles’ cheating, and his W-L record looks very different. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26271]

Uh oh another loss 31-14 at Hooks ... the wheels are coming off Arts redemption season now that his ineligible players are off the team 

We are all Hooks

[relapse98 634]

What I don't get is the win at all costs that the townspeople seem to be taking in regard to Briles and his cheatin ways.
Someone else would have started as the QB had the two boys not moved 1000 miles to tiny Mount Vernon. I wonder what that player's parents think about them. The people in MV are either pretty slow (highly likely) or had to have known that bringing CAB would bring the circus to town.