Grateful Dead General Thread

[Hate 20106]

Usually around here when someone mentions hot tuna it’s in the IPIHB forum. It’s always good to have another Deadhead here at any rate.

[Hate 20106]

I may have found my favorite Shakedown Street.  12/28/78 from the Golden Hall in San Diego, California. 

https://archive.org/details/gd78-12-28.aud-schug.warner.19506.sbeok.shnf

I'll have to look at a few more to be sure, but I've always preferred the fast versions to the slower versions they played with Brent. I also like Donna's voice on it.  The show from Egypt had a great one, but the recording I heard didn't have any of Bobby or Donna's backup singing on it.  It sounded just about perfect musically though. 

[Druggist 303]

On 8/24/2020 at 9:18 PM, Hate said:

I may have found my favorite Shakedown Street.  12/28/78 from the Golden Hall in San Diego, California. 

https://archive.org/details/gd78-12-28.aud-schug.warner.19506.sbeok.shnf

I'll have to look at a few more to be sure, but I've always preferred the fast versions to the slower versions they played with Brent. I also like Donna's voice on it.  The show from Egypt had a great one, but the recording I heard didn't have any of Bobby or Donna's backup singing on it.  It sounded just about perfect musically though. 

I’ll have to check that one out.  I’m a big Shakedown fan.  My two current favorites are the one on the Fall 79 Road Trips and the one from the So Many Roads set (12/31/83?).

[Hate 20106]

I had no idea, but tonight they are hosting a Shakedown Stream on youtube.  It's the  8/27/72 show from Veneta, Oregon.  It's the legendary naked guy dancing on the pole show.  This is one of my favorite Bird Songs and the CC>Rider is right up there as well.  I know what I am doing tonight!

 

 

[Hate 20106]

Mission in the Rain is a great and underrated song.  I'm listening to the 6/18/76 show from Passaic, New Jersey. 

 

[elguapo 4586]

I’m listening to 2/3/78 Dicks Picks 18 this morning. Badass versions of Cold Rain and Snow > New Minglewood Blues, Jerry’s guitar sounds fucking amazing.

[elguapo 4586]

💀 🔥💀🔥💀🔥💀🔥💀🔥💀🔥💀🔥💀

 

[Hate 20106]

Those shows are both fantastic.  I first heard LL Rain on Without a Net and for a long time that's how I felt it should sound.  But then I heard some of the versions with Donna singing and it's just fantastic.  It's probably my favorite song and the one I've heard the most.  It's such a different song after Brent joined.  I heard it at 2 of my three shows and both time Bobby played acoustic (my 6/13/93 show was the first time Bobby had ever played acoustic for LL Rain).  I also heard Rat Dog play it in the old Austin Music Hall right after a huge thunderstorm.  One of my favorite things to do is sit on the porch on a rainy night, drink some bourbon and smoke some KB while listening to LL Rain. 

[Hate 20106]

It’s a beautiful night to be up drinking and listening to the Grateful Dead!

[Hate 20106]

I'm listening to 9/24/88 tonight from Madison Square Garden.  Nick Taylor from the Rolling Stones sits in on West LA Fadeaway. Damn fine show.  It is amazing how much better Jerry looked just a year later though.

 

Edit: I hadn't seen the second set yet but they open with it with Suzanne Vega singing Chinese Bones.  I've never heard it before, but it's kind of cool.

 

Another Edit:  Holy shit...Hall and Oates come out and jam with them as well. 

 

Edited September 2, 2020 by Hate

[elguapo 4586]

On 8/29/2020 at 8:44 PM, Hate said:

Those shows are both fantastic.  I first heard LL Rain on Without a Net and for a long time that's how I felt it should sound.  But then I heard some of the versions with Donna singing and it's just fantastic.  It's probably my favorite song and the one I've heard the most.  It's such a different song after Brent joined.  I heard it at 2 of my three shows and both time Bobby played acoustic (my 6/13/93 show was the first time Bobby had ever played acoustic for LL Rain).  I also heard Rat Dog play it in the old Austin Music Hall right after a huge thunderstorm.  One of my favorite things to do is sit on the porch on a rainy night, drink some bourbon and smoke some KB while listening to LL Rain. 

The 9/3/77 Looks Like Rain is my favorite so far, it is fantastic

 

[Hate 20106]

Yeah, that’s a pretty famous show. I might have to listen to it tonight. My early morning meetings got moved so I don’t have to be at work until 9. That 30 second commute upstairs is going to come in handy tomorrow morning.

[Hate 20106]

Where is everyone and what are you listening to tonight??  For the moment I'm on 7/16/90 from Buffalo, NY.  Who knows where I'll be in a couple of hours. 

[Born to Run 6569]

I've been exploring Broke Down Palace. Never really liked it until watching Long Strange Trip. Like a lot of Dead Songs I just needed to be in the right time to connect with it.

Any favorite versions ?

[Hate 20106]

I posted it earlier in the thread, but this one is pretty good.

 

[Prepuce of Doom 21053]

Is there anything more disappointing than when The Big Steve Hour is on the Grateful Dead SiriusXM channel? 

[Hate 20106]

That’s why you turn to the internet. Non stop shows you want to hear when you want to hear them. I’m currently on my favorite 7/4/89 show to wrap up the work week. I have no early morning meetings, so I should be ok for my late morning meetings.

[Prepuce of Doom 21053]

Eh, I have Dish Network which has SiriusXM built in, so I appreciate the ease of being able to just click over to music through the TV. 

[Hate 20106]

It can’t be much easier than searching “Grateful Dead “ on YouTube. This isn’t your father’s hardships. Pussy.

[Prepuce of Doom 21053]

That's fair, I suppose...

[Willfully Horn 8001]

I  support the archive, too.

[Hate 20106]

That's fair, I suppose...

Sorry POD, that was a little aggressive. I was maybe a tad drunk last night.

 

And I know Facebook sucks, but one good thing about it is the Grateful Dead group I belong to. Their Dead of the Day will link to a show they played on each day so you can find some great shows to listen to. Here is one from the other day.

 

[Prepuce of Doom 21053]

Ha! No worries - I kind of get set in my ways when it comes to technology. And after a little bit of consideration, I think that I find YouTube concerts too visual to have on in the background. 

I can't remember whether I learned of it here or somewhere else, but when streaming to my phone, I really like using the app called Taper's Section, which has a bunch of different jam bands (and anyone else that encourages audiences taping their shows), and it has a way to sort by "on this date" as well as a random selection, which I think you can even narrow down into a specific year. You can also download shows to your phone for offline listening. 

Much more user-friendly and intuitive than The Deadhead Archives. 

[Hate 20106]

I had completely forgotten I had downloaded that app. Thanks for the reminder. I already found a soundboard tape from my first show that is much better than the crowd source I have.

[Hate 20106]

13 hours ago, Prepuce of Doom said:

Ha! No worries - I kind of get set in my ways when it comes to technology. And after a little bit of consideration, I think that I find YouTube concerts too visual to have on in the background.

I really enjoy seeing them play, especially later on in the Brent years.  It's awesome when either Brent spurs Jerry or vice versa.  There are times when Brent surprises Jerry with a particularly loud and timely pulse of the organ (no homo)...like in this in Loser at he 1:35 mark.  That smile Jerry gets is awesome.

And then there's this Not Fade away where Jerry and Brent trade off for a while.  It's just pure fucking magic @ 2:24.

Those are some of the great things that you see when watching the shows that are available.  But I realize its hard to get things done while watching as opposed to just listening .

[Hate 20106]

Is there a more fun song to hear at a show than Iko Iko?

 

[Druggist 303]

14 hours ago, Hate said:

Is there a more fun song to hear at a show than Iko Iko?

 

My brother still talks about looking over and seeing me really getting down during Iko Iko at that Rosemont show and knowing I was hooked!

[Hate 20106]

My friends and I had a tape of some show with Iko Iko that we listened to all the way to Chicago from San Marcos. It’s like they knew we were there and played it for us.

[Willfully Horn 8001]

"We're gonna take a break from all this sweat & steam & uproar & tumult and we're gonna break out our acoustic guitars and regale you with some wooden music." 
- Bob Weir, 4/9/70 

That sounds good to me. I need a fresh mindset.

https://archive.org/details/gd66-12-01.sbd.ladner.8575.sbeok.shnf

 

The show includes Lindy, Big Boy Pete, and Look on Yonder’s Wall,. Also Viola Lee Blues snd Cream Puff War. 

[Willfully Horn 8001]

New Minglewood Blues lyrics that didn’t make the jump:

”If you never believe, it’ll make it hard to believe in you.”

 

The show starts off electric, though. Perhaps they pick up wooden instruments, I’ll see.

[Sleepygrad 1029]

I've been exploring Broke Down Palace. Never really liked it until watching Long Strange Trip. Like a lot of Dead Songs I just needed to be in the right time to connect with it.

Any favorite versions ?

Love that song. One of my favs is from ‘81, NYC, March I think? I’ll listen to it 3-4 times in a row

[dcbc 14465]

I'd be surprised if this one wasn't posted upthread, but I guess I missed it.

Lots of energy.  New year's eve.  Dawn of the 80s.  Wonder what the culprit is.  /sniff.

Damn good show so far.  End of Franklin is on fire. 

 

Edited September 18, 2020 by dcbc

[noharleyyet 2838]

On 9/1/2020 at 10:09 PM, Hate said:

I'm listening to 9/24/88 tonight from Madison Square Garden.  Nick Taylor from the Rolling Stones sits in on West LA Fadeaway. Damn fine show.  It is amazing how much better Jerry looked just a year later though.

 

Edit: I hadn't seen the second set yet but they open with it with Suzanne Vega singing Chinese Bones.  I've never heard it before, but it's kind of cool.

 

Another Edit:  Holy shit...Hall and Oates come out and jam with them as well. 

 

I'm gonna be pissed if I become a convert after all these years but both of those videos are awesome....

[Hate 20106]

There is always room on the bus and it’s never too late to get on!

Poke around the thread for more mind blowing videos and links.

[Hate 20106]

And if you like those cameos, this one from Branford Marsalis is the GOAT!

 

[Sleepygrad 1029]

I'm gonna be pissed if I become a convert after all these years but both of those videos are awesome....

Sooo you don’t like the dead? But you’re in the Grateful Dead thread? I think you may already be a convert...

I suggest you start with their ‘65 shows and listen to everything through ‘95, then report back here

[Willfully Horn 8001]

5 minutes ago, Sleepygrad said:

Sooo you don’t like the dead? But you’re in the Grateful Dead thread? I think you may already be a convert...

I suggest you start with their ‘65 shows and listen to everything through ‘95, then report back here

This reminds me of my reaction to the time travel thread. Started wondering which show I would pop into.

As I’ve previously stated, I am halfway convinced I saw such arrivals in New Orleans. The Neville brothers played with the band during the second set. 

[Willfully Horn 8001]

Thinking about the order of, and which shows I’d attend with my time travel allotment, made me think of this story, told by the fat man.

 I don’t think it’s been posted.

Asked if he had a favorite among deadheads, Jerry says: “Yes. This guy used to stand up front, and he would conduct the show. He was at every West Coast show, and it was nice, because if you lost your place, you could look at him, and be back on time. You could count on him. And then, he was gone. I didn’t see him again until I was at some party, and I went up to him and asked where he’d been. He said, “Well I used to stand up front and conduct the band, now I stand in back and conduct the room””

is a good feeling.

[Druggist 303]

For cameos with the band, I have always been partial to this one.  The Spanish Jam is outrageously good

Its got (I think) Duane and Gregg Allman and Peter Green from early Fleetwood Mac.  That Branford version of Eyes is a very close second -really 1a and 1b.

[Hate 20106]

Goddamn...those 73-74 Bird Songs are just so good. 

[Hate 20106]

I genuinely feel sorry for people that don’t get the Grateful Dead. It’s like living during the same time as Hayden, Mozart, and Beethoven and not getting it.

[Willfully Horn 8001]

High art.
 

Not a question in my mind. And being present when someone realizes, for the first time, they have discovered Art in the music of the Grateful Dead, is joyful

[Druggist 303]

10 hours ago, Hate said:

Goddamn...those 73-74 Bird Songs are just so good. 

Make that 72-73 and we agree.  I think they quit playing it until the acoustic sets in 80 after 73.  Too bad, because 74-79 Dead would have tore up that song. Same goes for Here Comes Sunshine which got a longer break from their repertoire.

I know I have posted these before, but anyone interested should check out 6/22/73, any versions from Aug or Sept 72 (esp. 8/27 and 9/21&27), and 11/17/72 for nice some versions.  It is easily a top 5 song of theirs for me!

[Hate 20106]

Yeah, I get those early years mixed up.  72-74 were such great years for them.  I love the jazziness of that era.  And I agree with the Here Comes Sunshine.  It's one of my go to songs on those bright cool sunny days. 

[Druggist 303]

Gonna check out 2/3/78 from the recs  upthread.  I am not sure why I haven’t listened to it before.  I guess 78 has been hit and miss for me.  Here we go!

[Hate 20106]

Let It Grow is a song that has really "grown" on me over the years.  Here is a good one from 7/7/89.  I really like Brent Era versions better because I think his voice is just perfect for backing vocals.

 

[Hate 20106]

Well I ended up just listening to the rest of this show.  The transition from Space to The Other One is just out fucking standing.  The Phil bombs alone make this worthy of a listen. And then the transition to Wharf Rat is phucking phenomenal.

Edited September 20, 2020 by Hate

[Hate 20106]

I really love the Space>Other One>Wharf Rat from the late 80's and early 90's.  It's a perfect combination of songs for me.  Much like Help>Slipknot>Franklin's Tower combination and the Scarlet>Fire combos are.  I'm currently listening to 3/28/90.

[Hate 20106]

Alright, what is everyone listening to tonight?  I need some recommendations.

[Willfully Horn 8001]

Recommendation? With what you’ve recently posted💡the 4/6/85 Spectrum show.