Yogurt shop murders

[JimmyJames 12271]

On 3/9/2022 at 12:20 PM, closetojumping said:

 

So the brothel shitbag is Kallestad. Maybe Everett was the dirty cop who escapes implication. Some of his lackeys rise up the ranks to leadership positions and power to this day, thus driving y'all's concerns on privacy and such? Seems like the cop that phoned in seeing the smoke on a "routine" shift to the FD would obviously be involved. Investigating that guy unwinds the case. Hypothetically.

Troy Gay was the young APD officer who phoned in the fire. Rose all the way up the ranks to Assistant chief and chief of staff. Recently retired. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

On 3/9/2022 at 11:32 PM, Gatorubet said:

I owned one in the 80s. If you threw it at someone and hit them, you could hurt them.

Well it was a lethal enough gun to ultimately kill Amy Ayers. Maybe their hard to trace .22 ran out of bullets so they used an easy to trace .380 instead after first trying to strangle her after she crawled away. That makes sense. 

[Shoxthemonkey 1982]

On 2/20/2022 at 6:01 PM, JimmyJames said:

Has anyone ever heard of an AMT backup?

http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/AMT_Backup

I have never owned one of these but I was at a gun show in Wichita, 197?, when an off duty WPD patrolman shot himself in the foot with one. He had just purchased it and attempted to put it into an ankle holster with some difficulty. The gun fired, the place went silent, a lot of slides were heard cycling and then he started moaning "Oh Fuck, Oh Fuck". Put a real damper on the festivities.

[Gatorubet 30286]

I have never owned one of these but I was at a gun show in Wichita…

T & Ps

[closetojumping 62785]

5 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Troy Gay was the young APD officer who phoned in the fire. Rose all the way up the ranks to Assistant chief and chief of staff. Recently retired. 

Imagine that. 

[Armybrat 40873]

Speaking of old unsolved Austin murders, I’ll bet almost no one remembers the double murder of a middle age couple that ran a little book store near the SW corner of the I-35 Frontage road & Braker Lane. It took place just after dark sometime in the late 1970s, IIRC.
No witnesses, no clues or evidence ever found. We had recently moved to the Four Seasons neighbordhood over on the east side of 35 near Dessau Road. It caused quite a stir for our area, but was quickly forgotten by the rest of Austin, probably because it was almost out of town then. 
A double murderer may still walk among us.

The building was demolished a few years later and a bank branch is there now:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3765406,-97.6769179,3a,75y,264.59h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s46A9kwlJ0R3MKDpMNvMgGw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Edited March 26, 2022 by Armybrat

[GottaB 595]

Speaking of old unsolved Austin murders, I’ll bet almost no one remembers the double murder of a middle age couple that ran a little book store near the SW corner of the I-35 Frontage road & Braker Lane. It took place just after dark sometime in the late 1970s, IIRC.
No witnesses, no clues or evidence ever found. We had recently moved to the Four Seasons neighbordhood over on the east side of 35 near Dessau Road. It caused quite a stir for our area, but was quickly forgotten by the rest of Austin, probably because it was almost out of town then. 
A double murderer may still walk among us.
The building was demolished a few years later and a bank branch is there now:
https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3765406,-97.6769179,3a,75y,264.59h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s46A9kwlJ0R3MKDpMNvMgGw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

We were almost neighbors. I lived in the north oaks neighborhood that ran up next to the four seasons. I spent half my youth through that hood.

My dad worked at that Safeway and I worked at that Appletree - Randall’s.

[Armybrat 40873]

Our youngest son moved out in 1993 and we moved up by Round Rock in 1995. 

[GottaB 595]

Our youngest son moved out in 1993 and we moved up by Round Rock in 1995. 

We were there ‘85-‘97 I think.

[Kavinsky 417]

6 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Speaking of old unsolved Austin murders, I’ll bet almost no one remembers the double murder of a middle age couple that ran a little book store near the SW corner of the I-35 Frontage road & Braker Lane. It took place just after dark sometime in the late 1970s, IIRC.
No witnesses, no clues or evidence ever found. We had recently moved to the Four Seasons neighbordhood over on the east side of 35 near Dessau Road. It caused quite a stir for our area, but was quickly forgotten by the rest of Austin, probably because it was almost out of town then. 
A double murderer may still walk among us.

The building was demolished a few years later and a bank branch is there now:

https://www.google.com/maps/@30.3765406,-97.6769179,3a,75y,264.59h,86.74t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s46A9kwlJ0R3MKDpMNvMgGw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Did you join the posse in search of the servant girl annihilator?

[Ten Bears 2483]

Has anyone seen Brat and the Servant Girl Annihilator in the same room?  

[Guest Lobo]

No because armybrat killed him on a dumbwaiter and assumed his legend.  Much as the Dread Pirate Roberts.  

Armybrat has always been here.  I should know, I've always been here...too.

[Bevo 13596]

I was speaking with a forensic analyst who mentioned to me that a lot is going on with the case - new DNA evidence and such.

[South Austin 52564]

On 3/28/2022 at 1:29 PM, Guest Lobo said:

No because armybrat killed him on a dumbwaiter and assumed his legend.  Much as the Dread Pirate Roberts.  

Armybrat has always been here.  I should know, I've always been here...too.

#ripwolfgang.  Still bringing the laughs.

[utee94 15852]

41 minutes ago, Bevo said:

I was speaking with a forensic analyst who mentioned to me that a lot is going on with the case - new DNA evidence and such.

I've probably mentioned it on this thread (or at the other place) but one of the yogurt shop defendants (Maurice Pierce) was shot and killed by APD a few yards from my house back in December, 2010.  The gunshots woke me up and they sounded like they were in my backyard (they were actually in my next door neighbor's backyard).  He was running from the police after a traffic stop on Parmer, and started jumping fences in people's backyards.  Ultimately he struggled with an officer who had caught up to him on foot, grabbed the officer's knife and cut his neck, but got shot in the process.  He tried to run away but died just down the block.  I had no idea what was going on at the time, I just heard gunshots and then a lot of police on the street in front of my house as they were searching for him.  They had our whole street shut down the next day and only allowed residents in and out, as they investigated the scene.  The police interviewed me but of course I didn't have much to add.  A news crew from KVUE also interviewed me.  That was Christmas Eve, 2010.  Weird day.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2010-12-24/former-yogurt-shop-suspect-killed-by-apd-updated/

 

[ConferenceRoom 6145]

1 minute ago, utee94 said:

I've probably mentioned it on this thread (or at the other place) but one of the yogurt shop defendants (Maurice Pierce) was shot and killed by APD a few yards from my house back in December, 2010.  The gunshots woke me up and they sounded like they were in my backyard (they were actually in my next door neighbor's backyard).  He was running from the police after a traffic stop on Parmer, and started jumping fences in people's backyards.  Ultimately he struggled with an officer who had caught up to him on foot, grabbed the officer's knife and cut his neck, but got shot in the process.  He tried to run away but died just down the block.  I had no idea what was going on at the time, I just heard gunshots and then a lot of police on the street in front of my house as they were searching for him.  They had our whole street shut down the next day and only allowed residents in and out, as they investigated the scene.  The police interviewed me but of course I didn't have much to add.  A news crew from KVUE also interviewed me.  That was Christmas Eve, 2010.  Weird day.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/daily/news/2010-12-24/former-yogurt-shop-suspect-killed-by-apd-updated/

 

Alternate theory: he was trying to get to the real killer and only made it to their next door neighbor's backyard. 

[Deej 76897]

Alternate alternate theory: cops were pissed he got off after their desperate attempts at framing him and decided to just kill him. 

Edited October 23 by Deej

[utee94 15852]

Just now, ConferenceRoom said:

Alternate theory: he was trying to get to the real killer and only made it to their next door neighbor's backyard. 

Ha!  My name ain't Nicole!

[Farmerted 125]

“He grabbed the officers knife”?

 

[Blotto 23568]

14 hours ago, utee94 said:

The police interviewed me but of course I didn't have much to add.  A news crew from KVUE also interviewed me.

"so there I was......mid-fap...."

 

[Pablo 494]

15 hours ago, Bevo said:

I was speaking with a forensic analyst who mentioned to me that a lot is going on with the case - new DNA evidence and such.

about damn time.  hope this leads somewhere finally

[Pablo 494]

I grew up just south of Four Seasons in Windsor Hills, of course, I had no idea that's what it was called then, only do by looking at the map you linked.

Spent my late teen years, 85-92 hanging with my best friends who lived in Four Seasons.

On 3/26/2022 at 8:46 PM, GottaB said:

We were there ‘85-‘97 I think.

 

On 3/26/2022 at 7:14 PM, Armybrat said:

Our youngest son moved out in 1993 and we moved up by Round Rock in 1995. 

 

On 3/26/2022 at 6:52 PM, GottaB said:

We were almost neighbors. I lived in the north oaks neighborhood that ran up next to the four seasons. I spent half my youth through that hood.

My dad worked at that Safeway and I worked at that Appletree - Randall’s.

I grew up just south of Four Seasons in Windsor Hills, of course, I had no idea that's what it was called then, only do by looking at the map you linked.

Spent my late teen years, 85-92 hanging with my best friends who lived in Four Seasons.

[KYHorn 17134]