Austin Homeless Free for All Ordinance

[TKthunder2 4980]

7 hours ago, dingleberryswitzer said:

Working for Apple is worth a lot more than $10k in millennial street cred though.

We can take it to another thread but the few Apple L1’s we’ve hired over have been extremely inexperienced and know next to nothing about coding or log reading which is essential to move up in the tech area.  Make 10k more at most companies while getting real world/applicable experience is worth far more than their stupid name recognition street cred.

[dingleberryswitzer 2724]

No need.  Twas a joke .

[mchookem 16212]

so what about camping on the front stoop of an empty building?

right at the entrance to our neighborhood is a building, used to be a tanning salon but has been empty for about 6-9 mos. as of this past weekend, someone is camping by the front door, it is covered and is pretty large.

if you turn on the street you drive by the back, and there's clearly 'car camping' going on back there.  it's pulled up as close as it can to the back of the building...trunk is open, clothes and blankets are draped over the trunk lid and windows, other belongings spread around...

it's maybe 50 yards from the first house on the street. 

i don't want to be a hardass, but i'm afraid it's going to grow. not a great look for the entrance to a neighborhood in 78757 🤨

[InkaUtexas 25516]

Suck it up. The city is going to decide 10 camping locations and if that is one of them what ya gonna do. I would just walk down with a case of beer and make friends. 

[tomahawk dunk 321]

2 hours ago, mchookem said:

so what about camping on the front stoop of an empty building?

right at the entrance to our neighborhood is a building, used to be a tanning salon but has been empty for about 6-9 mos. as of this past weekend, someone is camping by the front door, it is covered and is pretty large.

if you turn on the street you drive by the back, and there's clearly 'car camping' going on back there.  it's pulled up as close as it can to the back of the building...trunk is open, clothes and blankets are draped over the trunk lid and windows, other belongings spread around...

it's maybe 50 yards from the first house on the street. 

i don't want to be a hardass, but i'm afraid it's going to grow. not a great look for the entrance to a neighborhood in 78757 🤨

I'm a former resident of The Woo in 78757. Is this off of Burnet next to Bill Millers?

If so, maybe ask Victor from the neighborhood FB page for his thoughts. He's usually money on issues such as crosswalks and birds in the area.

[Deej 76564]

5 minutes ago, tomahawk dunk said:

I'm a former resident of The Woo in 78757. Is this off of Burnet next to Bill Millers?

If so, maybe ask Victor from the neighborhood FB page for his thoughts. He's usually money on issues such as crosswalks and birds in the area.

Holy shit. That guy is nuts on the neighborhood page. Thanks for letting us know about the 1000th of an inch of rain you got, buddy 

[lazytexasfan 47]

saw a cop car and several city vehicles including one with a trailer on my way to work this morning and it looked like they were clearing out (hopefully?) the mess on manchaca at ben white

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[Texas_Rocks 346]

FWIW the encampment at 15th and San Antonio is gone.

Can’t say I blame them. The homeless realestate market in Austin is hot right now.

[BradInATX 9208]

Wife and I saw a guy passed out on the sidewalk getting medical attention in the west 6th area last Saturday afternoon. About an hour later we were in an Uber to the east side and saw him on the sidewalk near Dell Seton, hanging out near an encampment talking to people. Pretty sure he used the ambulance as an Uber home.

 

Edited August 7, 2019 by BradInATX

[Trey3216 15325]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

Wife and I saw a guy passed out on the sidewalk getting medical attention in the west 6th area last Saturday afternoon. About an hour later we were in an Uber to the east side and saw him on the sidewalk near the hospital, hanging out near an encampment talking to people. Pretty sure he used the ambulance as an Uber home.

 

Bill's in the mail.  

[bschoolprof 6232]

4 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Bill's in the mail.  

For us.  

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

On 8/5/2019 at 6:02 PM, crash_davis said:

https://www.kut.org/post/austin-proposes-budget-includes-627-million-moral-imperative-ending-homelessness

lulz.

A cool $28,500/per person. 

[crash_davis 23084]

1 minute ago, ChickenSandwich said:

A cool $28,500/per person. 

other cities around the country.

"hey cool, austin has $63M to splurge on the homeless, let's send our homeless there.  one way bus tickets for everyone!"

[Trey3216 15325]

8 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

other cities around the country.

"hey cool, austin has $63M to splurge on the homeless, let's send our homeless there.  one way bus tickets for everyone!"

Yep.  Your $28.5k/person problem is someone else’s $200/person bus ticket problem. 

[MFEU93MK9S8IW6K6FV0X 95]

13 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Suck it up. The city is going to decide 10 camping locations and if that is one of them what ya gonna do. I would just walk down with a case of beer and make friends. 

Maybe we will get something cool like a Kowloon Walled City type place in a few years.

[gsoda3 3236]

8 minutes ago, MFEU93MK9S8IW6K6FV0X said:

Maybe we will get something cool like a Kowloon Walled City type place in a few years.

i've always been fascinated by that place.  

[alincoln 2364]

43 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Yep.  Your $28.5k/person problem is someone else’s $200/person bus ticket problem. 

Homeless population will increase significantly in late-October when the annual migration from the NE and MW starts

[Abogado Peligroso 89]

I wonder if Austin used to bus the homeless.   Does anyone remember James Ayala from the shaggy mugshot thread? He disappeared one day and then started showing up in Phoenix booking photos. 

[GHOSTUSER 361]

Houston has reduced its homeless population by half since 2011 by following the example of Salt Lake City and has offered permanent housing, addiction treatment and other resources to the homeless. It is a cheaper and more humane solution to house them in an apartment than allowing them to camp in public areas and have them wallow in filth, creating an unsafe environment for everyone. My church used to serve breakfast every weekday to the homeless for more than 2 decades. That stopped after coordinating with the city and other charities when it was determined that it was not actually beneficial to ending homelessness. You'd think Austin would follow the examples of Texas cities like San Antonio and Houston with their successful programs than the awful examples of Seattle, LA and SF. 

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/02/why-homelessness-going-down-houston-dallas/

gsoda's recommended action for Austin, which was blithely dismissed by bozo, has been successful in Houston:

"The change was achieved with a lot of coordination among Parker, HUD, police, businesses and about 100 organizations. Eva Thibaudeau-Graczyk, chief program officer of the Coalition for the Homeless, said the collaboration “brought new partners to the table with resources that had never been there before.”

Among them was the Houston Housing Authority. “Prior, they’ve never seen themselves as a leader or a main partner in ending homelessness,” Thibaudeau-Graczyk explained. But since then, this agency was key, allowing the city to complement the funds for homelessness provided by HUD with the resources that were already available for affordable housing.

“This starts off with a simple dictate: The solution to homelessness is a home,” said Andy Icken, chief development officer for Turner, the current mayor. “Our focus was to create permanent supportive housing, so that we're not continually cycling people in and out of shelters, temporary or more permanent shelters.”

The good results translated into more funds from HUD because part of that money was tied to performance. From 2008 to 2018, Houston added more than $18 million. To put that in perspective, in 2018, Dallas’ total funds from HUD were $16.5 million.

The scenario from 20 years ago, when different organizations would serve food, give clothes or offer shelter — all done separately — has changed. There’s now constant communication between these institutions and a digital database called the Homeless Management Information System, which allows people at several organizations to understand each case. Most cities today have HMIS in place, but Houston was quick to adopt it, and that helped organizations strategize, analyze, share information and find personalized solutions."

Edited August 7, 2019 by Iconoclast Texan

[landman 559]

20 hours ago, mchookem said:

so what about camping on the front stoop of an empty building?

right at the entrance to our neighborhood is a building, used to be a tanning salon but has been empty for about 6-9 mos. as of this past weekend, someone is camping by the front door, it is covered and is pretty large.

if you turn on the street you drive by the back, and there's clearly 'car camping' going on back there.  it's pulled up as close as it can to the back of the building...trunk is open, clothes and blankets are draped over the trunk lid and windows, other belongings spread around...

it's maybe 50 yards from the first house on the street. 

i don't want to be a hardass, but i'm afraid it's going to grow. not a great look for the entrance to a neighborhood in 78757 🤨

The post office on Far West has provided overnight lodging to transients for a few years now with the doors being unlocked 24/7.

[Abogado Peligroso 89]

On a positive note, Mr. Austin from the app booking thread (the guy who walks up and down 6th Street with a sign that says “need $ for weed”) has a job as a cashier at a convenient store downtown.   It is nice to see someone take a positive step.  

[SDG 3319]

On another positive note; does this mean you can tailgate anywhere you want?  

[crash_davis 23084]

Just now, SDG said:

On another positive note; does this mean you can tailgate anywhere you want?  

No. You are a taxpaying citizen. You'll get no privileges and you'll like it.

[Bevo 13527]

I am Katfid.

I was driving from Cabo Bobs on Anderson Lane and saw a homeless guy fall down 3 times in the 15 seconds it took to drive by. I called 9 1 1 to inform them of the emergency and the guy asked for the details and then asked what the guy looked like. Homeless? The fuck do I know? What was he wearing? Clothes. The fuck do I know? At least I could provide the intersection.

[David Dennison 18656]

On 8/7/2019 at 2:20 PM, Iconoclast Texan said:

Houston has reduced its homeless population by half since 2011 by following the example of Salt Lake City and has offered permanent housing, addiction treatment and other resources to the homeless. It is a cheaper and more humane solution to house them in an apartment than allowing them to camp in public areas and have them wallow in filth, creating an unsafe environment for everyone. My church used to serve breakfast every weekday to the homeless for more than 2 decades. That stopped after coordinating with the city and other charities when it was determined that it was not actually beneficial to ending homelessness. You'd think Austin would follow the examples of Texas cities like San Antonio and Houston with their successful programs than the awful examples of Seattle, LA and SF. 

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/02/why-homelessness-going-down-houston-dallas/

gsoda's recommended action for Austin, which was blithely dismissed by bozo, has been successful in Houston:

"The change was achieved with a lot of coordination among Parker, HUD, police, businesses and about 100 organizations. Eva Thibaudeau-Graczyk, chief program officer of the Coalition for the Homeless, said the collaboration “brought new partners to the table with resources that had never been there before.”

Among them was the Houston Housing Authority. “Prior, they’ve never seen themselves as a leader or a main partner in ending homelessness,” Thibaudeau-Graczyk explained. But since then, this agency was key, allowing the city to complement the funds for homelessness provided by HUD with the resources that were already available for affordable housing.

“This starts off with a simple dictate: The solution to homelessness is a home,” said Andy Icken, chief development officer for Turner, the current mayor. “Our focus was to create permanent supportive housing, so that we're not continually cycling people in and out of shelters, temporary or more permanent shelters.”

The good results translated into more funds from HUD because part of that money was tied to performance. From 2008 to 2018, Houston added more than $18 million. To put that in perspective, in 2018, Dallas’ total funds from HUD were $16.5 million.

The scenario from 20 years ago, when different organizations would serve food, give clothes or offer shelter — all done separately — has changed. There’s now constant communication between these institutions and a digital database called the Homeless Management Information System, which allows people at several organizations to understand each case. Most cities today have HMIS in place, but Houston was quick to adopt it, and that helped organizations strategize, analyze, share information and find personalized solutions."

Please point to where bozo blithely dismissed the notion of giving the homeless a home.

[luke duke 6386]

I made the turnaround under 183 at Ohlen on the way home today. There were two piles of shit in the middle of the road. Stay classy, Austin.

Probably@Chad Briscoe
I hear that he has 2 buttholes.

[Auto Driller 2504]

On 8/7/2019 at 2:20 PM, Iconoclast Texan said:

Houston has reduced its homeless population by half since 2011 by following the example of Salt Lake City and has offered permanent housing, addiction treatment and other resources to the homeless. It is a cheaper and more humane solution to house them in an apartment than allowing them to camp in public areas and have them wallow in filth, creating an unsafe environment for everyone. My church used to serve breakfast every weekday to the homeless for more than 2 decades. That stopped after coordinating with the city and other charities when it was determined that it was not actually beneficial to ending homelessness. You'd think Austin would follow the examples of Texas cities like San Antonio and Houston with their successful programs than the awful examples of Seattle, LA and SF. 

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/07/02/why-homelessness-going-down-houston-dallas/

gsoda's recommended action for Austin, which was blithely dismissed by bozo, has been successful in Houston:

"The change was achieved with a lot of coordination among Parker, HUD, police, businesses and about 100 organizations. Eva Thibaudeau-Graczyk, chief program officer of the Coalition for the Homeless, said the collaboration “brought new partners to the table with resources that had never been there before.”

Among them was the Houston Housing Authority. “Prior, they’ve never seen themselves as a leader or a main partner in ending homelessness,” Thibaudeau-Graczyk explained. But since then, this agency was key, allowing the city to complement the funds for homelessness provided by HUD with the resources that were already available for affordable housing.

“This starts off with a simple dictate: The solution to homelessness is a home,” said Andy Icken, chief development officer for Turner, the current mayor. “Our focus was to create permanent supportive housing, so that we're not continually cycling people in and out of shelters, temporary or more permanent shelters.”

The good results translated into more funds from HUD because part of that money was tied to performance. From 2008 to 2018, Houston added more than $18 million. To put that in perspective, in 2018, Dallas’ total funds from HUD were $16.5 million.

The scenario from 20 years ago, when different organizations would serve food, give clothes or offer shelter — all done separately — has changed. There’s now constant communication between these institutions and a digital database called the Homeless Management Information System, which allows people at several organizations to understand each case. Most cities today have HMIS in place, but Houston was quick to adopt it, and that helped organizations strategize, analyze, share information and find personalized solutions."

Yeah but if they follow Houston’s example they don’t get to take sightseeing trips to LA and SF where they can spend the whole time sniffing their own farts.

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

8 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

Yeah but if they follow Houston’s example they don’t get to take sightseeing trips to LA and SF where they can spend the whole time sniffing their own farts.

We prefer free-range homeless 

[David Dennison 18656]

1 hour ago, Auto Driller said:

Yeah but if they follow Houston’s example they don’t get to take sightseeing trips to LA and SF where they can spend the whole time sniffing their own farts.

It also means that the individuals who qualify would be scattered around the city in permanent supportive housing like they are in Houston. There would not be a central location away from the city core.

And that's cool.

[phdhorn 6224]

3 hours ago, Auto Driller said:

Yeah but if they follow Houston’s example they don’t get to take sightseeing trips to LA and SF where they can spend the whole time sniffing their own farts.

No need to worry about that.  They can just take shits on the sidewalk and smell their own real thing.

[MissingInAction 24815]

I am so shitting on a sidewalk this weekend.

[Guest Lobo]

Asking for a friend...serious question:

can you now take a piss downtown on a tree and when the police approach you, Declare yourself homeless and be okay?   

I mean maybe the ordinance repeal didn’t expressly say “piss on the streets”,  but when you allow “camping” outdoors in public spaces downtown.......everybody of every political stripe knows that part of camping is pissing outside.  They don’t have to also expressly say “homeless can now eat outside as well”.  We know living outside means you eat outside.  You sleep outside.  We also know it means you piss outside.  

Where does the all-star city council weigh in on this hot topic?   

[GHOSTUSER 361]

Can’t wait to hear the reaction of Texas fans and visiting fans, especially LSU fans, to the new homeless free for all. The LaTech game will be my first visit to Austin since our last game. I will be staying downtown like usual and am curious to see the difference.

[Deej 76564]

With LSU fans being in town, the homeless population will seem much higher than it actually is.

[David Dennison 18656]

42 minutes ago, Iconoclast Texan said:

Can’t wait to hear the reaction of Texas fans and visiting fans, especially LSU fans, to the new homeless free for all. The LaTech game will be my first visit to Austin since our last game. I will be staying downtown like usual and am curious to see the difference.

You'll notice a difference because you want to. 

Most people will see a typical big city.

[Armybrat 40736]

Nah, no worries - out of town folks never notice sidewalk camps littered with poop, rats, & trash. Just typical America.

[workswithseed 2036]

10 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Nah, no worries - out of town folks never notice sidewalk camps littered with poop, rats, & trash. Just typical America.

I never seen a human shit when I lived in Denton, but have here in Portland. There seems to be a reason.

[HenryJames 65890]

On 8/13/2019 at 1:35 PM, Bevo said:

I am Katfid.

I was driving from Cabo Bobs on Anderson Lane and saw a homeless guy fall down 3 times in the 15 seconds it took to drive by. I called 9 1 1 to inform them of the emergency and the guy asked for the details and then asked what the guy looked like. Homeless? The fuck do I know? What was he wearing? Clothes. The fuck do I know? At least I could provide the intersection.

[Cajun 11675]

...Yoda's and shit!

[Armybrat 40736]

2 hours ago, workswithseed said:

I never seen a human shit when I lived in Denton, but have here in Portland. There seems to be a reason.

Well, the Horns did shit openly for 60 minutes in front of 90,000 fans during 66-3.back in 1997.

[MAUFRAIS 6573]

Well, the Horns did shit openly for 60 minutes in front of 90,000 fans during 66-3.back in 1997.

Don’t print that.

[Guest Lobo]

I've actively used the shit app in San Francisco before.  Please tell me there's one for Austin already?  Because between the needles, condoms, broken glass bottles, and piles of steaming human feces...I think this tech savvy startup town of ours has its next project right in front of it!  Some sort of reverse, iToilet by Costanza

Edited August 17, 2019 by Lobo

[atomheartbevo 89424]

18 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Nah, no worries - out of town folks never notice sidewalk camps littered with poop, rats, & trash. Just typical America day after the OU game at the State Fair.

Fixed.

[Horn of Gabriel 1590]

21 hours ago, David Dennison said:

You'll notice a difference because you want to. 

Most people will see a typical big city.

"Austin is typical big ciiiity with big ciiiiity problems!  Nothing to see here!"

[David Dennison 18656]

On 8/16/2019 at 6:21 PM, Armybrat said:

Nah, no worries - out of town folks never notice sidewalk camps littered with poop, rats, & trash. Just typical America.

Trumpvilles.

[Guest Lobo]

 So the mayor and a few All-Star council members have decided to have a open forum Townhall at the convention center on Wednesday morning.   9:00 AM on the first day of public school was the best idea they could come up with to get a fair and representative cross-section of Austin stakeholders on this issue. 

 I’ll let the pissing contest resume on who cares the most about homeless issues.

 Just remember the  politicians that you masturbate to at night literally thought the morning of the first day of school was the fairest idea with which to hold a forum 

It’s impossible some of you were this stupid

Edited August 19, 2019 by Lobo

[atomheartbevo 89424]

If iWednesday is the first day of school,, then why the fuck am I dropping my kid off at school tomorrow morning?

but seriously, yeah, they could have done this last week or next week.  

[Armybrat 40736]

59 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Trumpvilles.

We’ve been told right here on this forum that those folks have always been around.... so Obamaville might be a better fit, or even Bushton.

[David Dennison 18656]

24 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

We’ve been told right here on this forum that those folks have always been around.... so Obamaville might be a better fit, or even Bushton.

Yeah, but they aren't president.

So they are Trumpvilles.

[Bozo_Casanova 26279]

 So the mayor and a few All-Star council members have decided to have a open forum Townhall at the convention center on Wednesday morning.   9:00 AM on the first day of public school was the best idea they could come up with to get a fair and representative cross-section of Austin stakeholders on this issue. 
 I’ll let the pissing contest resume on who cares the most about homeless issues.
 Just remember the  politicians that you masturbate to at night literally thought the morning of the first day of school was the fairest idea with which to hold a forum 
It’s impossible some of you were this stupid

The meetingocracy in action