Austin Homeless Free for All Ordinance

[workswithseed 2033]

On 3/9/2021 at 3:33 PM, Lobo said:

I knew when a neighbor got shouted down online. She was expressing serious concerns as a female running around Town Lake at many points where these camps are setup along the trail.  And of course, the virtue signaling progressives shouted her down as being overly concerned with her privilege.  Basically, "Obviously nobody wants anything physical to happen to any woman...but your need to exercise does not supersede these people's right to simply live."  

This whole mess is gonna get worse before it gets better.  I love that the two blocks along the trail where no camping is allowed is the block in front of City Hall and the block in front of Adler's condo's view to Town Lake.

6 years in, two years of that really bad with the camping and violence.......not one fucking solution of root causes put forth by Council or Adler.  Never mind no allocation of resources.  Absolutely incredible.  The grift on the real estate their only solution because you can't shakedown a social worker for kick-backs.  I'm sure Casar tried. 

Sounds like Carville was right.

[David Dennison 18646]

6 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Make Austin weird again instead of filthy.

That costs money.

[Nicole44 22027]

8 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Why would you want to leave it up to the people in whom you have no faith to make prudent decisions?

It should have been left up to the voters. Solutions and plans should have been proposed and voted on. We are going to help our homeless. These are the proven ways (other successful places) to help them. Put it on ballot. Voters get to vote. Jmo. 

[Armybrat 40710]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

That costs money.

Legalize weed and tax it.

[washparkhorn 9934]

27 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

There are two kinds of homeless people:  those who need help and those who need a kick in the nuts. 

Fixed it for you.

[David Dennison 18646]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

It should have been left up to the voters. Solutions and plans should have been proposed and voted on. We are going to help our homeless. These are the proven ways (other successful places) to help them. Put it on ballot. Voters get to vote. Jmo. 

All of which struggle with homeless populations.

[David Dennison 18646]

2 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Legalize weed and tax it.

Yes, please.

[JimmyJames 12271]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

That costs money.

Not sure if you’ve noticed but Austin has money nowadays. 

[David Dennison 18646]

Just now, JimmyJames said:

Not sure if you’ve noticed but Austin has money nowadays. 

Spending money on cleaning up after the poor is super popular.

[Nicole44 22027]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

All of which struggle with homeless populations.

That have had success. There are places. I’ve listed them a couple of times upthread. It won’t be totally eradicated but they need electricity, water a bed food and counseling, help with addiction, career help. If someone wants to continue to be homeless. If there is help offered and they refuse it it is a person’s right. They can continue to live how they want. Just not here. Sorry. 

[Deej 76524]

2 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

 

Tell them to move along by date TBD, then trash all their “belongings” and power wash/fire hose the areas?

Fire hose was how they eventually got Leslie to move from the Albertson's up north to downtown. 

[washparkhorn 9934]

24 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Homeless population in Austin has increased 45% since the ban was lifted.

more precisely - 

Between 2019 and 2020, Austin's unsheltered homeless population jumped by 45%, from 1,086 to 1,574, while the sheltered population dropped 20%, from 1,169 to 932.

Overall, the total population of individuals experiencing homelessness grew by 11%, from 2,255 to 2,506 individuals.

https://communityimpact.com/austin/central-austin/public-safety/2020/05/19/austins-unsheltered-homeless-population-surges-by-45-overall-homeless-population-up-11-conservative-estimates-show/

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Spending money on cleaning up after the poor is super popular.

It’s more popular than letting the poor trash the city. 

[David Dennison 18646]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

That have had success. There are places. I’ve listed them a couple of times upthread. It won’t be totally eradicated but they need electricity, water a bed food and counseling, help with addiction, career help. If someone wants to continue to be homeless. If there is help offered and they refuse it it is a person’s right. They can continue to live how they want. Just not here. Sorry. 

Sure they can.

[Cajun 11675]

18 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Make Austin weird again instead of filthy.

That ship has sailed my friend.  

It's over.

[Deej 76524]

1 hour ago, Armybrat said:

But I’m sure they have a collection of P. krugman’s books & missives on the shelves in their tent libraries.

Shocked the city council didn't buy them all Kindles. 

[David Dennison 18646]

Just now, Cajun said:

That ship has sailed my friend.  

It's over.

Oh, please. If the city wants to keep its streets clean it can. It just takes will and resources.

[Nicole44 22027]

711 convenience stores have had success by playing classical music at a somewhat low but annoying volume outside their stores to discourage loitering etc. just start blasting shitty music at nite. I mentioned this earlier. I personally love the Urban Cowboy soundtrack but this current crop of non-austinites who flocked here after the ban was lifted may not. 

[Armybrat 40710]

6 minutes ago, Cajun said:

That ship has sailed my friend.  

It's over.

Oh well, there’s always downtown Round Rock. Small, but kinda cool.
It has been transformed unnoticed over the past two years. 

[washparkhorn 9934]

4 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

711 convenience stores have had success by playing classical music at a somewhat low but annoying volume outside their stores to discourage loitering etc. just start blasting shitty music at nite. I mentioned this earlier. I personally love the Urban Cowboy soundtrack but this current crop of non-austinites who flocked here after the ban was lifted may not. 

'Anti-Homeless' Hostile Architecture - https://interestingengineering.com/15-examples-of-anti-homeless-hostile-architecture-that-you-probably-never-noticed-before

 

[B00M 6280]

Love when @David Dennison spams the board with his inciteful 100 character limited posts. Longest tenured Surlster on my ignore list 

[David Dennison 18646]

Verbosity, thy name is surlyhorns.

[formermav43 4599]

Exchanging verbosity for vapidity is no virtue.

[Cajun 11675]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Oh, please. If the city wants to keep its streets clean it can. It just takes will and resources.

Whoosh

[Nicole44 22027]

I found the perfect movie and movie soundtrack that can be played at night to get people moving on (no fire hoses necessary or other mean stuff.) also, word in the homeless community travels fast. They know what’s up. Quite a few will get the flock out of here on their own. 
 

I digress. I have done a ton of research. Essentially, I have a vast library of movies and songs from those movies in my pea sized brain. Play this soundtrack at night. Project the movie on walls. People. Will. leave. 

[washparkhorn 9934]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Verbosity, thy name is surlyhorns.

 

1 hour ago, formermav43 said:

Exchanging verbosity for vapidity is no virtue.

[Deej 76524]

All repealing the camping ban did was remove any sympathy for the plight of the homeless. Oh, and somehow make money for our mayor and city council members and their cronies.

It's so fucking insane that a cam whore is the voice of reason on our city council. 

[workswithseed 2033]

35 minutes ago, Deej said:

All repealing the camping ban did was remove any sympathy for the plight of the homeless. Oh, and somehow make money for our mayor and city council members and their cronies.

It's so fucking insane that a cam whore is the voice of reason on our city council. 

Who's the cam whore?

[Deej 76524]

Really?

 

Edited May 2, 2021 by Deej

[Newdoc 3429]

This thread so needs to be moved to the CR. The poo flinging and rep bombing (pos and neg) has begun. Move it back if it gets anything close to apolitical.

[Armybrat 40710]

14 minutes ago, Deej said:

Really?

 

Looks like a mugshot.

[Deej 76524]

I'm sure some Surly member shot on that mug. 

[McFly 606]

18 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

This thread so needs to be moved to the CR. The poo flinging and rep bombing (pos and neg) has begun. Move it back if it gets anything close to apolitical.

There’s nothing political about cam whores. 

[Deej 76524]

Newdoc may be a Fitlump sock. 

[Newdoc 3429]

9 minutes ago, Deej said:

Newdoc may be a Fitlump sock. 

My forehead ain't lumpy and my boobs aren't that big. But I would probably look better in a superhero leotard.

[Newdoc 3429]

3 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

711 convenience stores have had success by playing classical music at a somewhat low but annoying volume outside their stores to discourage loitering etc. just start blasting shitty music at nite. I mentioned this earlier. I personally love the Urban Cowboy soundtrack but this current crop of non-austinites who flocked here after the ban was lifted may not. 

Baby Shark on repeat ought to do it.

[CooterBrown 17901]

So I’m curious what happens now?  Do the cops just go write them tickets?  Do the tent cities get confiscated?  I haven’t seen any detail on how this ban will play out, other than the poor APD guys that will have to deal with it.  Or not.  

If we let the cops just shoot the homeless, the police will be volunteering for the opportunity.

[CooterBrown 17901]

Really?
 

[phdhorn 6224]

[Cajun 11675]

13 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

If we let the cops just shoot the homeless, the police will be volunteering for the opportunity.

Make 'em dress like Chihuahuas.

[TKthunder2 4980]

1 hour ago, Newdoc said:

This thread so needs to be moved to the CR. The poo flinging and rep bombing (pos and neg) has begun. Move it back if it gets anything close to apolitical.

With the exception of a troll or two trying to stir up shit this thread has been very civil...unlike most that are in the CR.

Also local Austin issues have always been in current events.

[Axle Hongsnort 208]

anyone else wondering how this pic made it through the pr team...wardrobe malfunction ?

[Guest Lobo]

Is that ole' Juggs Mahoney?  

[Dennis Taylor 18690]

I'm just stunned that the guy that was considered by the members of Guns n Roses to be too much of a junkie to stay in that band is able to hold down a job 30 years later 

Edited May 3, 2021 by Dennis Taylor

[StruggleBus 3922]

F

Edited May 3, 2021 by StruggleBus
Bums are the worst

[workswithseed 2033]

4 hours ago, Deej said:

Really?

 

I didn't know she was also a cam whore.

[Deej 76524]

And that's how she gets elected. 

[atomheartbevo 89395]

11 hours ago, Murfdogg21 said:

Tell them to move along by date TBD, then trash all their “belongings” and power wash/fire hose the areas?

The problem is you aren't separating out the people who need help, and the people who steal/fuck around/etc.

Those people that need help, they are probably already at the lowest point of their lives, and having the public vote on this, telling them to GTFO and having cops trash their belongings is going to completely yank the rug out from under them.  Some people think they'll go back to being out-of-site in the woods/greenbelts/etc. but that's a pipe dream. And some of those folks are going to truly snap.

We are truly the most fucking stupid of mid-sized cities in the US.  It's like if aggy were running a city.

I blame Adler and the entire City Council.  I wish we could get a recall going, kick everybody out of office, and tell potential candidates "okay, here's your shot, give us your solutions to the homeless issues, etc."

[Cajun 11675]

33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

The problem is you aren't separating out the people who need help, and the people who steal/fuck around/etc.

 

This.

There are some, indeed, who are "experiencing homelessness".  I've met them, cooked for them, clothed them, washed dishes for them, etc.  Then there are a bunch of others who are simple fucksticks who prey and thrive off of guilt.  They are shit stains.  They are aggressive.  They are the ramoras of society and the one thing they shouldn't be is coddled and felt sorry for.

They aren't experiencing homelessness, they strive for it.  ATX has been a big, fat hunting ground for them courtesy of other shit stains - the enablers.

They'll be here in just a minute to emote over this post.

Edited May 3, 2021 by Cajun

[TKthunder2 4980]

One of my anti prop B “neighbors” on NextDoor has some interesting takes.

 

edit: while I don’t disagree with providing basic services for people in need, I strongly disagree that you should enable a drunk or heroine addict and give them everything they need to continue their destructive behavior.  Im pro legalizing everything but I’m also pro personal responsibility/accountability.

Edited May 3, 2021 by TKthunder2