Austin Homeless Free for All Ordinance

[lmao 178]

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Edited May 3, 2021 by lmao

[BurntOrange&White 39566]

8 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

One of my anti prop B “neighbors” on NextDoor has some interesting takes.

 

edit: while I don’t disagree with providing basic services for people in need, I strongly disagree that you should enable a drunk or heroine addict and give them everything they need to continue their destructive behavior.  Im pro legalizing everything but I’m also pro personal responsibility/accountability.

Fuck them, get these poors outta here! Thank God prop B has passed!

[StruggleBus 3922]

The butthurt in this thread is hilarious yet predictable.

[BurntOrange&White 39566]

10 minutes ago, StruggleBus said:

The butthurt in this thread is hilarious yet predictable.

Overall butthurt or the continuing butthurt that David Dennison gets when he takes a stance on an issue and the opposite always happens? Imma should change his handle from DD to Perpetual L

Edited May 3, 2021 by BurntOrange&White

[CooterBrown 17901]

So, Community First is building 1,400 new housing units for the homeless.

https://www.austinchronicle.com/news/2021-04-30/community-first-expansion-to-create-1400-additional-homes-for-austins-formerly-homeless-neighbors

Oh, and unlike the city, they have a plan...”MLF's expansion is a significant step in the organization's "10 Year Plan to Miti­gate Homelessness in Austin" that it first shared publicly in 2017, which aims to produce 1,000 homes...”

That’s roughly 50% of our official homeless population. Of the remaining 50% what percentage are those that don’t want to be homed?

[Guest Lobo]

amazing how all this shit, including Casar/Adler's latest plan, comes out immediately before and after election season.  These guys don't even wait until the ink on the ballots is dry before starting the next long-con.

[BurntOrange&White 39566]

Public money shouldn't go toward homeless.

[MissingInAction 24807]

When does the city start bulldozing these fucking camps?

I can't wait and I bet crime in my neighborhood goes down 1000%. 

Fuck those cunts.

[Cajun 11675]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Overall butthurt or the continuing butthurt that David Dennison gets when he takes a stance on an issue and the opposite always happens? Imma should change his handle from DD to Perpetual L

Let's all sing The Eyes.

[Cajun 11675]

10 hours ago, TKthunder2 said:

One of my anti prop B “neighbors” on NextDoor has some interesting takes.

 

edit: while I don’t disagree with providing basic services for people in need, I strongly disagree that you should enable a drunk or heroine addict and give them everything they need to continue their destructive behavior.  Im pro legalizing everything but I’m also pro personal responsibility/accountability.

They are entitled to nothing if they do not participate in their own recovery.

Not one thing.

Typical enabler Jedi self mind trick bullshit all over this guy's feels post.

[BurntOrange&White 39566]

9 minutes ago, Cajun said:

They are entitled to nothing if they do not participate in their own recovery.

Not one thing.

Typical enabler Jedi self mind trick bullshit all over this guy's feels post.

FAX!

[Cajun 11675]

Always love it when people like that think they have a handle on "the stark truth" and then set about having you get it straight with fruity PC smugness.

Rich

[Wally Pryor 5243]

Sucks that an audit won't happen to see what's been done with all this homeless-related funding.   Indirectly, that's what got the Banister lane project killed by Aleshire and a few other local stakeholders in Q4 '19.   The ORRs were getting ready to be filed and, magically, the council said "That's okay, we'll pass on the big white building.  The one that we were going to pay 2X over market for."

 

 

[Cajun 11675]

Audits are bad, mmmmmkay?

/CaboSteve

[Nicole44 22027]

Since Adler/Casar are either sinister money grabbers or dysfunctional morons (or both) Built for Zero is organization dedicated to functional zero in the homelessness problem. Had they bothered to do any research they would have learned that Abilene, Texas (participant in this organization) reached functional zero in 2019 for veterans. Meaning they ended veteran homelessness.

If these asshats had bothered to read world wide case studies on homelessness before they and the merry band of dipshits running the city (into the ground) decided to unilaterally lift the 23 year ban on camping two years ago without the Austin Taxpayers having a vote, they would have learned that something like 80 communities (cities/counties) are participating in this program.

If Casar/Adler and their merry band of fucktards had done any real research they would know that 14 of the built for zero communities have achieved functional zero for chronic or veteran homelessness.

They would have read that 131,535 individuals have been housed by Built for Zero communities since 2015.

They would have learned that 45 communities have achieved a measurable reduction in overall homelessness. (Detroit is at 33% since 2020–yes in the middle of a fucking pandemic); Austin by contrast INCREASED by 45% since the fucktwats lifted the ban in 2019.

 

Minneapolis has housed 667 people from chronic homelessness from the by-name list and is still housing 20 people a month despite a fucking pandemic.

TLDR: Built for Zero seems to be working for several communities. Adler can’t be voted out fast enough. Casar should never be the next mayor. In short, either they did this as a cash grab knowing it would fail or they are too stupid to see what is working and employ that process to end it or both. Fuck them. Adler can GTFO. 

Edited May 3, 2021 by Nicole44

[Wally Pryor 5243]

Cronk may not be happy that Prop F failed this weekend.  It's now up to him to oversee how this shit, some of it literally, will be cleaned up May 11.   

[CooterBrown 17901]

13 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Since Adler/Casar are either sinister money grabbers or dysfunctional morons (or both) Built for Zero is organization dedicated to functional zero in the homelessness problem. Had they bothered to do any research they would have learned that Abilene, Texas (participant in this organization) reached functional zero in 2019 for veterans. Meaning they ended veteran homelessness.

If these asshats had bothered to read world wide case studies on homelessness before they and the merry band of dipshits running the city (into the ground) decided to unilaterally lift the 23 year ban on camping two years ago without the Austin Taxpayers having a vote, they would have learned that something like 80 communities (cities/counties) are participating in this program.

If Casar/Adler and their merry band of fucktards had done any real research they would know that 14 of the built for zero communities have achieved functional zero for chronic or veteran homelessness.

They would have read that 131,535 individuals have been housed by Built for Zero communities since 2015.

They would have learned that 45 communities have achieved a measurable reduction in overall homelessness. (Detroit is at 33% since 2020–yes in the middle of a fucking pandemic); Austin by contrast INCREASED by 45% since the fucktwats lifted the ban in 2019.

 

Minneapolis has housed 667 people from chronic homelessness from the by-name list and is still housing 20 people a month despite a fucking pandemic.

TLDR: Built for Zero seems to be working for several communities. Adler can’t be voted out fast enough. Casar should never be the next mayor. In short, either they did this as a cash grab knowing it would fail or they are too stupid to see what is working and employ that process to end it or both. Fuck them. Adler can GTFO. 

Abilene just isn't a sexy business trip destination like San Francisco, Seattle, or LA. No way it could be on the list.

[lmao 178]

11 hours ago, Cajun said:

This.

There are some, indeed, who are "experiencing homelessness".  I've met them, cooked for them, clothed them, washed dishes for them, etc.  Then there are a bunch of others who are simple fucksticks who prey and thrive off of guilt.  They are shit stains.  They are aggressive.  They are the ramoras of society and the one thing they shouldn't be is coddled and felt sorry for.

They aren't experiencing homelessness, they strive for it.  ATX has been a big, fat hunting ground for them courtesy of other shit stains - the enablers.

They'll be here in just a minute to emote over this post.

What do you do with the truly mentally ill? I mean eyes glazed over screaming at the sky while shitting on a park bench mentally ill. Many also have anosagnosia (the inability to perceive their own condition), like outside of forcing them into a psych ward & being medicated what are the solution? I truly want to help these ppl but I'm at a loss.

[phdhorn 6224]

So here is my simplistic but not too unicorns and butterflies solution:

- Set up what amounts to a detention or deportation center ("halfway house" type thing) - comfortable but by no means an apartment.
- Contract and buy a shitton of cheap(er) land 15-20 miles outside of downtown.
- Get strong but cheap construction to erect a giant shed-like structure that can hold a couple thousand (or multiple smaller structures) along with infrastructure (plumbing, etc., maybe a community shower/sink/cooking area or 2 or 10).
- Purchase bulk equipment like cots, blankets, etc. and very cheap separators or whatever (although not necessary).  A/C and big central heat would far too much to provide, but certainly things can be made comfortable enough and if the weather extremes are severe, well, that's a relatively rare contingency to be worked through.  Possibly some good insulation would greatly reduce heat in the summer (I have some foam stuff that is on the hottest side of my house and that stuff is amazing!!  Certainly a reasonable price could be negotiated for stuff like this.
- Purchase some rudimentary climate control (fans for summer, possibly a few large heating units for winter).
- Work with organizations (tax writeoffs, etc.) to send medical and educational resources (i.e. have classes, training, etc.) at classrooms.
- Work with local employers to establish bottom of the barrel employment if possible - even if not able to self-sustain, it's work for a resume).
- Fund a rotating staff to watch/provide security/administrate/instruct and mentor.. part of this team are employment specialists who can partner with organizations in town to hire halfway type help (cleaning, Mickie D's, whatever).

The goal of a place like this is to purposely set up a humane but not permanent place to shelter and get basic needs met.  In this type of place a homeless person who really wants to get out will demonstrate at least some initiative (even with some guidance at first if needed); they would be edified but also meant to know that the goal is to get out of here.  Meantime they'll be as comfortable as can be until they get a leg up.

People who snark or are bad shits can get evicted and thrown into a vehicle that will provide a bus ticket and drop them off (or jail, which I know is too overcrowded as it is, so that one will take some working out).  There would also be medical issues for a lot of them (drug rehab, psych help) but if you get as far as these ideas, you're at least halfway to solving that problem).

Rather than focus on getting these folks nice comfy homes without working on their habits (which take on average about 28 days to change permanently), which will lead to failure.. focus on the ascension out of borderline living and getting the skills to re-emerge as a productive person.

Yes there is some naivete to this and I'm sure a lot of problems would pop up.  But it's gotta be better than spending gabillions to buy old places where residents don't want them, throwing them into a place 50 at a time and spreading out the ability and $ to help.  

Don't take this too literally, but we don't have 25 little trash dumps in Austin, we have one huge landfill in TravCo where our shit is taken and dumped (but to some degree cultivated).  Quit trying to jump 5 steps with these folks to get them as "gee, just one of the neighbors".  Provide them shelter and hygene, a little training, then they can go look for their own residence when they have a little push up.  Security would be easier if APD could come to one location (reducing exponentially the amt. of manpower needed).  And centralizing this type of center would bring resources much more easily to them, rather than have to scatter out.

With maybe 3-4K of people in question it's a lot, but it's finite.  This is what I would propose, even through what I'm sure would be a lot of problems.  But it's a start.  And for the amount of $ already wasted on this by our Idiot 8 or 9 (giving credit to a few councilmembers like Tovo who seems to have her head on relatively straight), it seems like a better idea at least to me.  

The End.

[Deej 76524]

2 hours ago, MissingInAction said:

When does the city start bulldozing these fucking camps?

I can't wait and I bet crime in my neighborhood goes down 1000%. 

Fuck those cunts.

Homeless guy in my area is out on a bike everyday with one or two bikes in tow. Making a living stealing those things.

[dcar00 14028]

2 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

So here is my simplistic but not too unicorns and butterflies solution:

- Set up what amounts to a detention or deportation center ("halfway house" type thing) - comfortable but by no means an apartment.
- Contract and buy a shitton of cheap(er) land 15-20 miles outside of downtown.
- Get strong but cheap construction to erect a giant shed-like structure that can hold a couple thousand (or multiple smaller structures) along with infrastructure (plumbing, etc., maybe a community shower/sink/cooking area or 2 or 10).
- Purchase bulk equipment like cots, blankets, etc. and very cheap separators or whatever (although not necessary).  A/C and big central heat would far too much to provide, but certainly things can be made comfortable enough and if the weather extremes are severe, well, that's a relatively rare contingency to be worked through.  Possibly some good insulation would greatly reduce heat in the summer (I have some foam stuff that is on the hottest side of my house and that stuff is amazing!!  Certainly a reasonable price could be negotiated for stuff like this.
- Purchase some rudimentary climate control (fans for summer, possibly a few large heating units for winter).
- Work with organizations (tax writeoffs, etc.) to send medical and educational resources (i.e. have classes, training, etc.) at classrooms.
- Work with local employers to establish bottom of the barrel employment if possible - even if not able to self-sustain, it's work for a resume).
- Fund a rotating staff to watch/provide security/administrate/instruct and mentor.. part of this team are employment specialists who can partner with organizations in town to hire halfway type help (cleaning, Mickie D's, whatever).

The goal of a place like this is to purposely set up a humane but not permanent place to shelter and get basic needs met.  In this type of place a homeless person who really wants to get out will demonstrate at least some initiative (even with some guidance at first if needed); they would be edified but also meant to know that the goal is to get out of here.  Meantime they'll be as comfortable as can be until they get a leg up.

People who snark or are bad shits can get evicted and thrown into a vehicle that will provide a bus ticket and drop them off (or jail, which I know is too overcrowded as it is, so that one will take some working out).  There would also be medical issues for a lot of them (drug rehab, psych help) but if you get as far as these ideas, you're at least halfway to solving that problem).

Rather than focus on getting these folks nice comfy homes without working on their habits (which take on average about 28 days to change permanently), which will lead to failure.. focus on the ascension out of borderline living and getting the skills to re-emerge as a productive person.

Yes there is some naivete to this and I'm sure a lot of problems would pop up.  But it's gotta be better than spending gabillions to buy old places where residents don't want them, throwing them into a place 50 at a time and spreading out the ability and $ to help.  

Don't take this too literally, but we don't have 25 little trash dumps in Austin, we have one huge landfill in TravCo where our shit is taken and dumped (but to some degree cultivated).  Quit trying to jump 5 steps with these folks to get them as "gee, just one of the neighbors".  Provide them shelter and hygene, a little training, then they can go look for their own residence when they have a little push up.  Security would be easier if APD could come to one location (reducing exponentially the amt. of manpower needed).  And centralizing this type of center would bring resources much more easily to them, rather than have to scatter out.

With maybe 3-4K of people in question it's a lot, but it's finite.  This is what I would propose, even through what I'm sure would be a lot of problems.  But it's a start.  And for the amount of $ already wasted on this by our Idiot 8 or 9 (giving credit to a few councilmembers like Tovo who seems to have her head on relatively straight), it seems like a better idea at least to me.  

The End.

This.  first, everyone has to understand that everyone can't be helped.  there will be some that just get "bus tickets".  

Isnt the Home Depot location in Casar's district?

It would be nice if the council could actually do its job and prioritize what is most important and quit asking for more money.  maybe we don't need a fucking chunnel or to literally give people millions of dollars to buy apartments because they might be near a transit line.

[Cajun 11675]

35 minutes ago, lmao said:

What do you do with the truly mentally ill? I mean eyes glazed over screaming at the sky while shitting on a park bench mentally ill. Many also have anosagnosia (the inability to perceive their own condition), like outside of forcing them into a psych ward & being medicated what are the solution? I truly want to help these ppl but I'm at a loss.

Me too my man.  I've been in the business of helping them and it's a soul crushing beatdown.  They used to be the majority of homeless in ATX, but no more.  They are a subset.  Most are professional homeless people who are as I've described above.  They aren't that hard to spot and they deserve zero mercy, compassion, and least of all our dollars.

[LABEVO 928]

46 minutes ago, phdhorn said:

So here is my simplistic but not too unicorns and butterflies solution:

- Set up what amounts to a detention or deportation center ("halfway house" type thing) - comfortable but by no means an apartment.
- Contract and buy a shitton of cheap(er) land 15-20 miles outside of downtown.
- Get strong but cheap construction to erect a giant shed-like structure that can hold a couple thousand (or multiple smaller structures) along with infrastructure (plumbing, etc., maybe a community shower/sink/cooking area or 2 or 10).
- Purchase bulk equipment like cots, blankets, etc. and very cheap separators or whatever (although not necessary).  A/C and big central heat would far too much to provide, but certainly things can be made comfortable enough and if the weather extremes are severe, well, that's a relatively rare contingency to be worked through.  Possibly some good insulation would greatly reduce heat in the summer (I have some foam stuff that is on the hottest side of my house and that stuff is amazing!!  Certainly a reasonable price could be negotiated for stuff like this.
- Purchase some rudimentary climate control (fans for summer, possibly a few large heating units for winter).
- Work with organizations (tax writeoffs, etc.) to send medical and educational resources (i.e. have classes, training, etc.) at classrooms.
- Work with local employers to establish bottom of the barrel employment if possible - even if not able to self-sustain, it's work for a resume).
- Fund a rotating staff to watch/provide security/administrate/instruct and mentor.. part of this team are employment specialists who can partner with organizations in town to hire halfway type help (cleaning, Mickie D's, whatever).

The goal of a place like this is to purposely set up a humane but not permanent place to shelter and get basic needs met.  In this type of place a homeless person who really wants to get out will demonstrate at least some initiative (even with some guidance at first if needed); they would be edified but also meant to know that the goal is to get out of here.  Meantime they'll be as comfortable as can be until they get a leg up.

People who snark or are bad shits can get evicted and thrown into a vehicle that will provide a bus ticket and drop them off (or jail, which I know is too overcrowded as it is, so that one will take some working out).  There would also be medical issues for a lot of them (drug rehab, psych help) but if you get as far as these ideas, you're at least halfway to solving that problem).

Rather than focus on getting these folks nice comfy homes without working on their habits (which take on average about 28 days to change permanently), which will lead to failure.. focus on the ascension out of borderline living and getting the skills to re-emerge as a productive person.

Yes there is some naivete to this and I'm sure a lot of problems would pop up.  But it's gotta be better than spending gabillions to buy old places where residents don't want them, throwing them into a place 50 at a time and spreading out the ability and $ to help.  

Don't take this too literally, but we don't have 25 little trash dumps in Austin, we have one huge landfill in TravCo where our shit is taken and dumped (but to some degree cultivated).  Quit trying to jump 5 steps with these folks to get them as "gee, just one of the neighbors".  Provide them shelter and hygene, a little training, then they can go look for their own residence when they have a little push up.  Security would be easier if APD could come to one location (reducing exponentially the amt. of manpower needed).  And centralizing this type of center would bring resources much more easily to them, rather than have to scatter out.

With maybe 3-4K of people in question it's a lot, but it's finite.  This is what I would propose, even through what I'm sure would be a lot of problems.  But it's a start.  And for the amount of $ already wasted on this by our Idiot 8 or 9 (giving credit to a few councilmembers like Tovo who seems to have her head on relatively straight), it seems like a better idea at least to me.  

The End.

my solution.

 

[phdhorn 6224]

1 minute ago, LABEVO said:

my solution.

 

I'm sorry, but I don't think equipping every homeless person with a backhoe is going to work.

[Guest Lobo]

What if it's battery powered/carbon neutral?  

[MissingInAction 24807]

47 minutes ago, Deej said:

Homeless guy in my area is out on a bike everyday with one or two bikes in tow. Making a living stealing those things.

One of the camps here has a pile of stolen bikes about 2 feet high. Fuck them all in the goat ass.

[Bottlecap 1519]

Lots of white male small dick energy in this thread. Keep it up boys!

[Armybrat 40710]

18 hours ago, Cajun said:

Make 'em dress like Chihuahuas.

[Cajun 11675]

Damn, now I'm hungry.

[Cajun 11675]

13 minutes ago, Bottlecap said:

Lots of white male small dick energy in this thread. Keep it up boys!

If anybody would obsess over dicks, especially small ones.

Keep it up boi and take your racist shit somewhere else.

Edited May 3, 2021 by Cajun

[Armybrat 40710]

1 hour ago, Wally Pryor said:

Cronk may not be happy that Prop F failed this weekend.  It's now up to him to oversee how this shit, some of it literally, will be cleaned up May 11.   

So Casar & Adler created the problem and now expect Cronk to clean their shit up?

[3adays 454]

So when does the removal start? I’m planning to picnic a la the Battle of Bull Run. 

[Armybrat 40710]

50 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Me too my man.  I've been in the business of helping them and it's a soul crushing beatdown.  They used to be the majority of homeless in ATX, but no more.  They are a subset.  Most are professional homeless people who are as I've described above.  They aren't that hard to spot and they deserve zero mercy, compassion, and least of all our dollars.

Basically that is what my firefighter nephew said after dealing daily with those people over the course of 10 years in the St. Elmo area of South Austin. He made it a point to schmooze with all those he came into contact with during the multiple calls to the various camps every day.or night.

[Bottlecap 1519]

7 minutes ago, Cajun said:

If anybody would obsess over dicks, especially small ones.

Keep it up boi and take your racist shit somewhere else.

damn, this is inverted dick energy here lol

[TexasBeta 1260]

1 hour ago, LABEVO said:

my solution.

 

May I be so bold as to suggest - 

 

 

Edited May 3, 2021 by TexasBeta

[B00M 6280]

59 minutes ago, Bottlecap said:

Lots of white male small dick energy in this thread. Keep it up boys!

I was confused so thanks for specifying male dick.

What neighborhood do you live in? 

[Armybrat 40710]

It’s going to be interesting to see what happens after the new Waterloo Park opens in August after 3 years of construction.

[Wally Pryor 5243]

52 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

So Casar & Adler created the problem and now expect Cronk to clean their shit up?

And when the cleanup doesn't go well it will just be the final excuse they need to fire Cronk since he's generally not like by the council to begin with. 

They need to salvage something out of this clusterfuck. 

 

 

 

 

[Nicole44 22027]

9 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

It’s going to be interesting to see what happens after the new Waterloo Park opens in August after 3 years of construction.

Yep. All I know is that the last time I was downtown for some fun and drinks, we walked around to a couple of bars. It was November of 2019. Apart from a few other bar hoppers it was mainly homeless people we encountered. I felt like I was in Thriller...

Edited May 3, 2021 by Nicole44

[crash_davis 23081]

2 hours ago, Bottlecap said:

Lots of white male small dick energy in this thread. Keep it up boys!

as opposed to what?

"I love homeless people. Look at the size of my dick!" 

That's a weird fucking flex.

[Mighty fine 169]

I'm sorry, but I don't think equipping every homeless person with a backhoe is going to work.

Well duh, that's why he's wanting to equip them with front-end loaders.

[DalTxHornFan 3085]

On 4/17/2021 at 10:41 PM, DalTxHornFan said:

Ridiculous that City of Austin has owned this Home Depot site with 13+ acres of land for more than a decade and hasn't done a damn thing with it.  Instead, Adler wants to buy a bunch of hotels at above-market values.

https://austin.towers.net/imagining-homeless-housing-at-austins-vacant-city-owned-home-depot/

Cause and effect?  Kathy Tovo introduces a resolution directing the City Manager to find city-owned land that might accommodate temporary housing with the goal of "end[ing] homelessness in Austin." 

[DalTxHornFan 3085]

9 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Cause and effect?  Kathy Tovo introduces a resolution directing the City Manager to find city-owned land that might accommodate temporary housing with the goal of "end[ing] homelessness in Austin." 

Good Reddit thread on this:  

 

[B00M 6280]

32 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

as opposed to what?

"I love homeless people. Look at the size of my dick!" 

That's a weird fucking flex.

 

[Wally Pryor 5243]

27 minutes ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Cause and effect?  Kathy Tovo introduces a resolution directing the City Manager to find city-owned land that might accommodate temporary housing with the goal of "end[ing] homelessness in Austin." 

Lulz.   So they get their hand forced by the voters and are doing something they should have done a year+ ago when this fiasco was already a fucking disaster. 

Clowns. 

 

 

[crash_davis 23081]

6 minutes ago, Wally Pryor said:

Lulz.   So they get their hand forced by the voters and are doing something they should have done a year+ ago when this fiasco was already a fucking disaster. 

Clowns. 

 

 

I think the bi-partisan nature of the vote has them scared. They've had years to come up with a plan to "fix" the homeless issue. They passed a Welcome sign, proposed to buy a few buildings at way over market value, and that was fucking it. They watched their actions turn a beautiful city into a shithole and still did nothing. 

The people said fuck you, we've had enough. And NOW they are finally proposing at least something that doesn't fuck taxpayers out of more money.

Fuck these assclowns. I want to vote every fucking one of them out of office.

They created an environment that somebody like fitlump could get elected. Her whole platform was basically fuck these tent cities and it worked. That alone should tell you how badly the city "leaders" fucked up.

[B00M 6280]

[mchookem 16184]

so...voters less likely to encounter actual homeless (on the outskirts) were more likely to vote for it than those inner city who are more likely to encounter homeless in their actual neighborhood...is that right? if so, that's interesting.

[ChickenSandwich 9798]

My neighborhood constantly complains of crime. Homeless B&E/property /package theft daily on next door/ring network. Homeless hanging out near the elementary school.....votes against Prop B. Smdh. 

[crash_davis 23081]

2 minutes ago, mchookem said:

so...voters less likely to encounter actual homeless (on the outskirts) were more likely to vote for it than those inner city who are more likely to encounter homeless in their actual neighborhood...is that right? if so, that's interesting.

maybe the outside of core austin voters were sick of seeing tent cities and homeless parties on street corners when they came to the city center. i know many people who stopped going to austin proper for entertainment because they didn't want to deal with the homeless anymore. my wife and i used to go eat in downtown all the time. we stopped going a long time ago. i wanted my city back.