impeachment inquiry hearings thread

[hayden_horn 11365]

i do think my favorite piece of rhetoric that's been invented by republicans during this administration is "perjury trap." 

if we look at that term honestly, it is an acknowledgement that the administration is full of fucking liars.

[sachick 1189]

Gohmert talking about saying it's ridiculous for the white house to turn over information over and over again until they find a crime like that wasn't done to the Clinton.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

They are going to go after Scanlon. Her words can be twisted i.e. our policy. The GOP will say it is “his” policy per being the president. I get her words, but the R team nitpicks. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Gaetz citing the Democrats’ Presidential harassment and then the talking points. 

Interesting, does he believe that the President can himself harass people?

[SydneyCarton 48145]

3 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Gaetz citing the Democrats’ Presidential harassment and then the talking points. 

Interesting, does he believe that the President can himself harass people?

Why not? The president himself certainly feels he can grab whoever he wants by the pussy.

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

The R committee members spending more time tweeting crap to get Trumps’ attention during this session. Olear(?) the reporter asserts they are auditioning for Putin to assume Trump’s role in the future. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

Oh Gaetz you stupid boy. That move is going to come back and haunt you. 

[hobbes2702 13051]

Oh mic drop moment

[DDD Dad 14346]

JFC this is embarrassing.  Gaetz, Johnson, and Jordan are the three fucking stooges.

[Biff Tannen 45697]

7 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

Oh Gaetz you stupid boy. That move is going to come back and haunt you. 

 

7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Oh mic drop moment

wha hoppen?

[tantric superman 4667]

I'm missing all the good stuff!

[hobbes2702 13051]

The faux outrage from the ranking member is my favorite 

[jimmyjazz 46017]

What did Gaetz do?  I had a conference call.

[TXSG8R 3362]

1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

The faux outrage from the ranking member is my favorite 

Really hope they are digging up every possible article talking about ukrainians dying because the aid was withheld and submitting them one at a time.  Watch Collins blow a gasket.  

[hobbes2702 13051]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What did Gaetz do?  I had a conference call.

Submitted Nadler’s letter when running for head of judiciary where he talked about his experience with impeachment. Then someone else chimed in and literally said “that’s a mic drop moment”. I think it was Collins

[TXSG8R 3362]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

What did Gaetz do?  I had a conference call.

Nadler had some bullet point in his committee campaign material about being best option for the judiciary because of his experience in impeachment.  Gaetz presented it like some smoking gun that impeachment was a foregone conclusion.  His buddy from La called it a mic drop moment, which it wasnt.  

[DDD Dad 14346]

5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Submitted Nadler’s letter when running for head of judiciary where he talked about his experience with impeachment. Then someone else chimed in and literally said “that’s a mic drop moment”. I think it was Collins

It was Johnson.  

[Brisketexan 105192]

4 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

It was Johnson.  

Which one?

[DDD Dad 14346]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Which one?

Mr. Johnson from Louisiana (not Mr. Johnson from Georgia, obvs.)

[sachick 1189]

Nadler had some bullet point in his committee campaign material about being best option for the judiciary because of his experience in impeachment.  Gaetz presented it like some smoking gun that impeachment was a foregone conclusion.  His buddy from La called it a mic drop moment, which it wasnt.  

It was such an “Ok Boomer” moment.

[sachick 1189]

I'm missing all the good stuff!

No you’re not. It’s the same shit over and over again.

[DDD Dad 14346]

Gawd Debbie Lesko is a beating.  Throw in an obnoxious Wisconsin accent on top of her generally obnoxious demeanor makes it doubly so.

[hobbes2702 13051]

“That’s it folks, that’s all there is”, she says after reading the crimes aloud

[hobbes2702 13051]

Who had Fast and Furious on their bingo boards

[jimmyjazz 46017]

Nadler bringing the hammer.  POTUS didn't assert privilege, so there is nothing to take to the courts.

Oops.

[Brisketexan 105192]

6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Nadler bringing the hammer.  POTUS didn't assert privilege, so there is nothing to take to the courts.

Oops.

He's 100% right.  That's actually been a puzzler for me (as someone who regularly resists improper discovery requests).  You get the request, you assert all appropriate objections and/or privileges.  Then let the court tell you whether you need to comply or not.

Trump just said "fuck you, what are you gonna do, make me?"  Which is actually it's own terrifying rebuke of even the concept of having the rule of law.  "I'm the king.  You can't make me comply."  That's how you kill a Republic in one shot.

[DDD Dad 14346]

Jordan really seems upset with the rules that the Republican-controlled House established just a couple years ago now that he's in the minority.

 

SHOCKING!  I'M OUTRAGED!!!

[tantric superman 4667]

Put a jacket on, you disrespectful piece of shit.

[jimmyjazz 46017]

Gym Jordan reminds me (appropriately) of the local blowhard who destroys every decent discussion by launching into a poorly-supported diatribe.  Everyone else just rolls their eyes and implicitly knows "we're done" because nobody wants to expend the effort to pin him down.  (Get it?  Pin?)

[DDD Dad 14346]

What happens?  Guess what?

Where's the whistleblower?

[Neonmoon 38130]

Rep Jordan is the craziest morherfucker on the planet 

[TexArcher 38000]

3 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

Put a jacket on, you disrespectful piece of shit.

I'm surprised they can get him to wear a collared shirt.  You know if he had his way they'd all be in wrestling leotards and slicked up with canola oil.

[DDD Dad 14346]

As much as everything Mr. Johnson from Louisiana (Mr. Mic Drop) says is pretty much complete bullshit, he's probably the least annoying of all of the minority members in the manner of his speech.

 

Edited December 12, 2019 by DDD Dad

[HornOnTheBayou 8945]

4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I'm surprised they can get him to wear a collared shirt.  You know if he had his way they'd all be in wrestling leotards and slicked up with canola oil.

[tantric superman 4667]

8 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

As much as everything Mr. Johnson from Louisiana (Mr. Mic Drop) says is pretty much complete bullshit, he's probably the least annoying of all of the minority members in the manner of his speech.

 

Yeah, but he throws off a pretty large pederastical vibe.

[DDD Dad 14346]

Just now, tantric superman said:

Yeah, but he throws off a pretty large pederastical vibe.

And that's fair.

[tantric superman 4667]

I like what Rep Dean is doing.

The biggest WTF aspect of all of this may be the fact that stupid (Trump) women don't find any reason to respect or support smart women. 

[henrygandorf 29194]

22 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Gym Jordan reminds me (appropriately) of the local blowhard who destroys every decent discussion by launching into a poorly-supported diatribe.  Everyone else just rolls their eyes and implicitly knows "we're done" because nobody wants to expend the effort to pin him down.  (Get it?  Pin?)

i spend most of my time on the surly political board, so i'm completely unfamiliar with anyone fitting this description.

[tantric superman 4667]

So bizarre, this procedural process the Republicans are arguing.

If you want to testify, come testify.  If not, shut the fuck up.

You can't sit on your hands and then whine about not being able to testify.

 

[RPM 26334]

37 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Rep Jordan is the craziest morherfucker on the planet 

Louie Gohmert says hold my beer.

[elfenix 34331]

Donald Trump demanded a fucking bribe from the president of the Ukraine to do his fucking job. How's that not impeachable?

[sachick 1189]

They’re still going?? It’s the same 30-40 people talking all day? When will they end for the day.

[Neonmoon 38130]

Just now, elfenix said:

Donald Trump demanded a fucking bribe from the president of the Ukraine to do his fucking job. How's that not impeachable?

Because enough dumb motherfuckers elected enough dumber motherfuckers to vote it isn’t 

[henrygandorf 29194]

26 minutes ago, tantric superman said:

So bizarre, this procedural process the Republicans are arguing.

If you want to testify, come testify.  If not, shut the fuck up.

You can't sit on your hands and then whine about not being able to testify.

remember, there was a group of republicans on the committee holding hearings who stormed the doors in protest over not being able to be involved in the hearings.

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

i do think my favorite piece of rhetoric that's been invented by republicans during this administration is "perjury trap." 

if we look at that term honestly, it is an acknowledgement that the administration is full of fucking liars.

Its what they did to Clinton. They caught him lying under oath about a blowjob. It was the ultimate perjury trap. And it worked. 

Now when their own tactic is used against them for even greater crimes they rail against it as some sort of negative. When it really just means they fucking lie under oath all the time and hate it when they get caught. Its so dumb. 

“Perjury trap.” Yet another modern day invention of the completely nihilistic republican party that has no problem lying and breaking the law unless it somehow hurts them.  

Edited December 12, 2019 by JimmyJames

[BrickHorn 18262]

14 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Donald Trump demanded a fucking bribe from the president of the Ukraine to do his fucking job. How's that not impeachable?

It’s worse than that.  Donald Trump used millions in taxpayer money and his power as president to extort a foreign government to generate bullshit propaganda intended to slander Trump’s chief political rival.  

Contrast that with Obama refusing to announce the investigation into Russian interference in 2016 so as not to create even the appearance he was meddling with the election.  

Edited December 13, 2019 by BrickHorn

[TexArcher 38000]

I could be wrong, but I believe it's still true that no Federal Court has *ever* dismissed a case due to the perjury trap defense.

Also, the thing about the perjury trap is that if you don't lie, you won't commit perjury.

That's like trying to get a drug dealer off on illegal search and seizure.  Fuck all of these people and everyone who supports them.

[Rougarou 594]

Brexit passes and Trump won’t be impeached; the question is will people riot/take to the streets when or if this happens? I could see some serious backlash to Ol Donny wriggling tree— tempers and emotions are way too high. Only saving Grace is Christmas might drown it out...

[elfenix 34331]

11 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

It’s worse than that.  Donald Trump used millions in taxpayer money and his power as president to extort a foreign government to generate bullshit propaganda intended to slander Trump’s chief political rival.  

Contrast that with Obama refusing to announce the investigation into Russian interference in 2016 so as not to create even the appearance he was meddling with the election.  

yeah but the constitution only says 'treason, bribery, or other high crimes or misdemeanors" so i'd make it easy on the republicans and put the one that's actually named.  then they won't get confused when consulting their pocket constitutions. 

[TwiceHorn 31516]

12 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

I could be wrong, but I believe it's still true that no Federal Court has *ever* dismissed a case due to the perjury trap defense.

Also, the thing about the perjury trap is that if you don't lie, you won't commit perjury.

That's like trying to get a drug dealer off on illegal search and seizure.  Fuck all of these people and everyone who supports them.

Bad analogy.

I fully support exclusion of all evidence obtained by illegal searches and seizures and so should you.

It may seem a technicality, but in this day and age, the government of the US is conducting more and more illegal searches in more and more outrageous ways.  The Fourth Amendment has never been more important.