impeachment inquiry hearings thread

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2 minutes ago, GopherRock said:

Quitting on the stool is the correct term here. 

I like this reference.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

Just now, David Dennison said:

I'm beginning to think there might not be an impeachment vote at all. 

Explain 

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8 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Ya know, most days I consider myself pretty smart. I’m no genius or anything but a reasonably intelligent person.

Then someone like Fiona Hill comes along and makes me realize, damn, I’m an idiot.

That's because you spend time on Surly

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Stefanik is up!!!

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

5 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

This is incredible.  The R's are so overmatched by Hill/Holmes that they've stopped asking questions altogether.

That was why when she originally testified that so many people ran to Barr, ran to Fox and ran to ground. The overwhelming truth was that the President leveraged foreign aid to have the announcement made that Ukraine would be investigating Burisma ergo Biden. Everyone knew it was Biden and everyone knew that while they were leveraging that, they were also twisting their arm further for the gas contacts.  

[David Dennison 18,646]

Just now, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Explain 

Why give the Republicans a chance to control the proceedings in a trial and give the president a much needed victory?

These hearings have done a tremendous amount of damage on their own. A trial can only help the president politically. 

It will be interesting to see how leadership moves forward.

[Chuckie Finster 22,598]

1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Stefanik is up!!!

She definitely drew the "Javelin" straw in the prep sessions.  She has brought them up to every single witness, regardless of relevance.  

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3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

She definitely drew the "Javelin" straw in the prep sessions.  She has brought them up to every single witness, regardless of relevance.  

Today was "did Trump meet him", even though it wasn't the Oval Office.

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I wish they’d show Nunes’ face as he gets dragged deeper in this. 

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[Chuckie Finster 22,598]

Goddamn, Swalwell is really good at this.

[jimmyjazz 45,538]

LOL Swalwell going in not only dry but parched.

[LonghornJudas 1,090]

Ok, guys. Enough is enough. Lev Parnas? Alexandra Chalupa? Ed McMahon? This can’t be real.

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1 minute ago, hookem17 said:

I wish they’d show Nunes’ face as he gets dragged deeper in this. 

[Hiphopopotamos 20,865]

No surprise that Swalwell called Nunes out and read the article about his involvement with the indicted Ukrainian.  

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HOLY FUCK SWALWELL

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'm beginning to think there might not be an impeachment vote at all. 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Why give the Republicans a chance to control the proceedings in a trial and give the president a much needed victory?

These hearings have done a tremendous amount of damage on their own. A trial can only help the president politically. 

It will be interesting to see how leadership moves forward.

I could see the argument, but they better fucking get Bolton to testify and dig a little deeper into the upper levels of the Donald administration first 

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1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

 Oh please let him insist on appearing before the committee to testify. Who will stand up to him and tell him not too? Besides, that will make him want to do it more. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

Thank you Rep. Swalwell. Help yourself to some bean soup and we will pass gas in unity and bonhomie.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

Going through all this not to impeach would be the biggest mistake the democrats could make

[Tuco 5,076]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Yeah, they have a seat waiting for you in the House if you really want to defend yourself. 

[Chuckie Finster 22,598]

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Why give the Republicans a chance to control the proceedings in a trial and give the president a much needed victory?

These hearings have done a tremendous amount of damage on their own. A trial can only help the president politically. 

It will be interesting to see how leadership moves forward.

Anyone uninformed enough to be "swayed" by a Senate victory would most likely have voted for Trump anyway.

And you are not taking into account the momentum an acquittal would create on the left.  That would make it very clear that elections are the only way to remove this guy.

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This is when the C-Span camera shifted over to Nunez while Swalwell was ripping him open.

How Schiff did not smile is amazing.  That's an amazing amount of control.

[David Dennison 18,646]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Making Senators up for re-election take an uncomfortable vote will be worth it.

But he's gonna get a political victory out of it and that sucks. We won't know how much of a victory until November.

[David Dennison 18,646]

2 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Anyone uninformed enough to be "swayed" by a Senate victory would most likely have voted for Trump anyway.

And you are not taking into account the momentum an acquittal would create on the left.  That would make it very clear that elections are the only way to remove this guy.

These hearings are having the opposite political effect than I thought they would. Support for impeachment is going down. I did not think that was going to happen.

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17 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Testimony from people like Hill, Vindman, and Yovanovich make me thankful that there are intelligent, moral people who are working to ensure our country doesn't slip down into the fifth level of hell under the Asshole In Chief. 

The difference between how smart and put together the career professionals vs the bumbling ineptitude of the appointed officials is pretty staggering 

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What is Hurd doing here?

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

These hearings are having the opposite political effect than I thought they would. Support for impeachment is going down. I did not think that was going to happen.

Not disagreeing that its happening, just curious if that can be quantified with the people that are actively watching the hearings versus getting sound bites and roll-ups from the media.  

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6 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Anyone uninformed enough to be "swayed" by a Senate victory would most likely have voted for Trump anyway.

And you are not taking into account the momentum an acquittal would create on the left.  That would make it very clear that elections are the only way to remove this guy. 

And this is why you *must* see this through. I can't imagine a bigger punch in the gut to the left's momentum than not impeaching this traitor. 

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Oh good, Conaway embarrassing Texas.

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Just now, atomheartbevo said:

What is Hurd doing here?

Strenuously objecting...... while being faux outraged, while not showing a shrivel of spine and saying, "it's in appropriate, I'm not okay with this, but I won't do anything about it".  It's very en vogue.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

Conaway has an annoying habit of slurping when he speaks. Adenoids?

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6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

These hearings are having the opposite political effect than I thought they would. Support for impeachment is going down. I did not think that was going to happen.

Eh, maybe polls say this but he continues to degenerate and the damning evidence stands up, i think you won't have to worry about independents because democratic voters will actually show the fuck up

[David Dennison 18,646]

2 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

And this is why you *must* see this through. I can't imagine a bigger punch in the gut to the left's momentum than not impeaching this traitor. 

Agreed.

But that doesn't change the fact that Donald Trump will emerge from this with the largest political victory of his first term and ride it all the way to election day.

 

 

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Conaway trying to attack Holmes for sharing the info on the phone call, LOL.  Attack the process, not what actually happened.

[LonghornJudas 1,090]

10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This is when the C-Span camera shifted over to Nunez while Swalwell was ripping him open.

How Schiff did not smile is amazing.  That's an amazing amount of control.

I was expecting...

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

Scumbag Conaway. 

[Biff Tannen 45,491]

If I hear "unfair" one more time from a republican, I'm going to lose it.  Biggest fucking snowflake pussies on the planet.

[Mdhorn 5,910]

4 hours ago, horncyclist said:

Probably. There is a strategy available to just move forward and roll everything up into the obstruction. My main point was that if this was the democrats entire case, they would be fine moving forward. Bolton will have a lot to say and probably has a lot memorialized. I just don't know how long it's going to take for that to resolve itself. There's benefit to not dragging it on too much. In any case, Schiff and Goldman have done a masterful job prosecuting this. 

Also Bolton has some crazy and that's not what you want the public to dwell on since that would be what would get reported 24-7.

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I dont know how terms work in the embassy world, but interesting is the exact way to describe information when its relevant to an event or task in the IT world.  

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3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

Eh, maybe polls say this but he continues to degenerate and the damning evidence stands up, i think you won't have to worry about independents because democratic voters will actually show the fuck up

Well, this Independent is going to show up and vote straight Dem. 

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1 minute ago, hayden_horn said:

Eh, maybe polls say this but he continues to degenerate and the damning evidence stands up, i think you won't have to worry about independents because democratic voters will actually show the fuck up

National Security matters should not be determined by polls.  

(This is where Dennison tells me I don’t know how the world works and it’s just politics)

[jimmyjazz 45,538]

Only Democrats could be concerned with the way these hearings are going.  The objective is to reveal the truth, nothing more.  If you were hoping for more, you are a fool.  Stop with the hand wringing, the pearl clutching, the "oh my goodness this isn't a home run" reactions.  We were down 11-2 in the bottom of the 9th, a home run wasn't enough to win this particular game.  

Grow up.  This is about something far more important than chicken-scratch political points.

Edited November 21, 2019 by jimmyjazz

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I've got something to do right now, would love to hear Nunes closing comments,  now that Swalwell opened him up on live TV.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Only Democrats could be concerned at the way these hearings are going.  The objective is to reveal the truth, nothing more.  If you were hoping for more, you are a fool.  Stop with the hand wringing, the pearl clutching, the "oh my goodness this isn't a home run" reactions.  We were down 11-2 in the bottom of the 9th, a home run wasn't necessary.  

Grow up.  This is about something far more important than chicken-scratch political points.

That's naive.

[Mrs Whiggins 13,049]

If the majority of people are only getting manufactured soundbites then it would be easier to fall into the ‘I don’t want to think about it’ trap that is followed by, “it will all work out. “

This is not for now, this is for many many years from now. For when we have a more concerted effort by the GOP or other subversive players to turn America into a minority majority Christian Fascist nation.  

[jimmyjazz 45,538]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

That's naive.

How?  Show your work, and demonstrate how things would be better had these hearings not been held.

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[Biff Tannen 45,491]

Jordan:  Dems are tearing this country apart.

That's fucking rich.