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You know NKorea laughs their ass off at how easily manipulated Trump is. Do some missile testing followed up by a love letter. Watch Trump verbally suck him off next time anybody asks about NKorea. Even 3rd world banana republic dictators tool on this moron.

Tahoehorn  may have to ask some more questions to get to the bottom of this, but I'm sure he will ultimately come to the conclusion that having a dysfunctional retard as President is best for America.

 

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There isn't much that is less interesting than one of Tahoe's opinions.  But on the broader issue, Trump has certainly proven liars out of the many Republicans who slammed Obama for his openness to sitting down with hostile enemy leaders (with preconditions, something Trump has dispensed with) and his purported lack of toughness with dictators.  But Trump has proven them to be liars on nearly every issue.

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5 minutes ago, mchookem said:

for someone who thinks the press is an enemy of the state, he sure likes jawing with them at every opportunity

Other than his twitter account, the press and the platform they give him is his most influential weapon against American democracy. 

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Bozo_Casanova

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There isn't much that is less interesting than one of Tahoe's opinions.  But on the broader issue, Trump has certainly proven liars out of the many Republicans who slammed Obama for his openness to sitting down with hostile enemy leaders (with preconditions, something Trump has dispensed with) and his purported lack of toughness with dictators.  But Trump has proven them to be liars on nearly every issue.

See, that’s not the point. This is not a pile on Tahoe thread. This is an opportunity for Tahoe to get right with his own principles.
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Well, in all fairness, Tahoe was looking pretty stupid by page 2 of the shaggy thread, so he's had plenty of time to "get right".  The logical conclusion is that he has no principles.    He sways with the wind as if he has no spine.  

He's merely a simple donut boy.  

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:


See, that’s not the point. This is not a pile on Tahoe thread. This is an opportunity for Tahoe to get right with his own principles.

He has no principles to get right with.  He pretended to be something he's not two message boards ago and some of you are still under the delusion that he's that guy instead of who he's proven to be since then.   I mean, if staging an internet intervention is your thing, it doesn't matter to me, but he's nothing more than one of many lying racists who argued for the position that this thread is about under Obama before abandoning it under Trump. 

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3 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

He has no principles to get right with.  He pretended to be something he's not two message boards ago and some of you are still under the delusion that he's that guy instead of who he's proven to be since then.   I mean, if staging an internet intervention is your thing, it doesn't matter to me, but he's nothing more than one of many lying racists who argued for the position that this thread is about under Obama before abandoning it under Trump. 

Just like the fuckfaces that bitched about the deficit, Obama's golfing, the cost of Obama's vacations, etc.   They're nowhere to be found now. 

 

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5 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:


See, that’s not the point. This is not a pile on Tahoe thread. This is an opportunity for Tahoe to get right with his own principles.

Will there be long-winded examples involving widgets and nazi rocket scientists, and the benefits of the totally not racist Robert E. Lee Day celebration? If not, out. 

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7 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Also looks like badmofo has now banned a few folks. lol 

How is that possible?

So the wolf dude is gone now too?

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Will there be long-winded examples involving widgets and nazi rocket scientists, and the benefits of the totally not racist Robert E. Lee Day celebration? If not, out. 


You left out the allegorical “election of dog catcher in Bugtussle, Alabama”.
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9 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Trump praising North Korea because its leader writes him  a love letter kissing tumps ass is just about the most embarrassing thing I’ve ever seen. What a disgrace. Just suck his dick already trump. You know you want to.

You have some strange fantasy porn habits.  I have doubts anything other than a bullet to the brain pan will work with Kim, but maybe, just maybe he's just trying to play to the guys garagantuan ego, But hey who knows what the reality is.

At least he hasn't given Kim millions of dollars in aid like Bill and Madelaine did.  What a cat fishing that was...  

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You have some strange fantasy porn habits.  I have doubts anything other than a bullet to the brain pan will work with Kim, but maybe, just maybe he's just trying to play to the guys garagantuan ego, But hey who knows what the reality is.
At least he hasn't given Kim millions of dollars in aid like Bill and Madelaine did.  What a cat fishing that was...  


This is a thread about hypocritical criticism of Obama, related to North Korea.

The Bill Clinton thread is somewhere else or doesn’t exist.
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3 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yeah who knows. Is he getting played any more than B. Clinton did ?  Not right now IMO.

I know people who were direct parties to those negotiations back in the day.  We actually obtained real and verifiable concessions with respect to the Nork's nuclear program in exchange for food aid and economic concessions (e.g., freeze their enrichment program, with inspections to verify).  We've gotten literally NONE of that under DOTUS.  When you are giving a tyrant legitimacy and praise....but getting nothing in return....you're getting played.

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I know people who were direct parties to those negotiations back in the day.  We actually obtained real and verifiable concessions with respect to the Nork's nuclear program in exchange for food aid and economic concessions (e.g., freeze their enrichment program, with inspections to verify).  We've gotten literally NONE of that under DOTUS.  When you are giving a tyrant legitimacy and praise....but getting nothing in return....you're getting played.

It's Donald Trump. People who deal with him see him coming a mile away and try to hide their glee. He's a terrible negotiator and everyone on earth knows it.

 

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

I know people who were direct parties to those negotiations back in the day.  We actually obtained real and verifiable concessions with respect to the Nork's nuclear program in exchange for food aid and economic concessions (e.g., freeze their enrichment program, with inspections to verify).  We've gotten literally NONE of that under DOTUS.  When you are giving a tyrant legitimacy and praise....but getting nothing in return....you're getting played.

Freeze their program ??  Funny they don't seem frozen as they NEVER stopped developing nukes.

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Freeze their program ??  Funny they don't seem frozen as they NEVER stopped developing nukes.

Huh.  So the concept of "stopping something for a period of time" doesn't match up with "frozen" in your head?  Interedasting.  It was actually one of the major successes we had over time.  They froze their plutonium enrichment.  And they promised to freeze uranium enrichment, although they later cheated on that -- nonetheless, it was slowed significantly.

Opportunities remain to freeze their enrichment program/cap the number of nukes they have.  We've made zero tangible progress on those points.  Again, we've obtained NOTHING -- NADA -- from the Norks under Trump.  He has been completely played.

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32 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Onboard's dumbass is cancelled.

Brisket is schooling him.  Brisket living in 2019, Onboard stuck in 1999.

BUT BILL AND MADELINE

Oy vey that you think that time period has no link to today is laughable. I know people like you. Yesterday was yesterday it doesn't matter, Your favorite phrase is Akuna ma-tatta isn't it ?  

My point on the issue is you're laughing at Trump for playing nice, when Clinton did it with flowers, and bundles of cash, and he was completely played (sorry Brisket they never stopped their nuke program).

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5 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

My point on the issue is you're laughing at Trump for playing nice, when Clinton did it with flowers, and bundles of cash, and he was completely played (sorry Brisket they never stopped their nuke program).

Let’s trade objective proof. Here — I’ll start:

 

Arms Control Association 

“In 1994, faced with North Korea’s announced intent to withdraw from the nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT), which requires non-nuclear weapon states to forswear the development and acquisition of nuclear weapons, the United States and North Korea signed the Agreed Framework. Under this agreement, Pyongyang committed to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program in exchange for aid.”

https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/dprkchron

 

Nuclear Threat Initiative

The crisis was defused in June 1994 when former U.S. President Jimmy Carter traveled to Pyongyang to meet with Kim Il Sung. Carter announced from Pyongyang that Kim had accepted the broad outline of a deal that was later finalized as the Agreed Framework in October 1994. [20] Under the agreement, North Korea agreed to freeze work at its gas-graphite moderated reactors and related facilities, and to allow the IAEA to monitor that freeze.

https://www.nti.org/learn/countries/north-korea/nuclear/

 

Council on Foreign Relations

The United States and North Korea sign the Agreed Framework [PDF], in which North Korea commits to freezing its illicit plutonium weapons program and halting construction on nuclear reactors, in Geneva. In exchange, the United States pledges to provide sanctions relief, aid, oil, and two light-water reactors for civilian use.

https://www.cfr.org/timeline/north-korean-nuclear-negotiations

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Oy vey that you think that time period has no link to today is laughable. I know people like you. Yesterday was yesterday it doesn't matter, Your favorite phrase is Akuna ma-tatta isn't it ?  

My point on the issue is you're laughing at Trump for playing nice, when Clinton did it with flowers, and bundles of cash, and he was completely played (sorry Brisket they never stopped their nuke program).

Their “program?” That’s a meaningless word. And that’s not what was ever negotiated, nor is it what is negotiated in such cases.

 

They did suspend some rather important aspects of it (eg, Plutonium enrichment), which was verified by inspection. That info is publicly available. And I have spoken about it with one of the architects of the plan several times. He actually had some hopes that trump - unconventional approach and all - might be able to get some concessions that look similar (no further enrichment, etc). We’ve gotten....literally nothing. Zero.

 

Only in Trumpkin-world is that “winning.”

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5 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Oy vey that you think that time period has no link to today is laughable. I know people like you. Yesterday was yesterday it doesn't matter, Your favorite phrase is Akuna ma-tatta isn't it ?  

My point on the issue is you're laughing at Trump for playing nice, when Clinton did it with flowers, and bundles of cash, and he was completely played (sorry Brisket they never stopped their nuke program).

Lol. Trump isn’t “playing nice,” he’s sucking up to North Korea for the single reason that they are smart enough to know all you have to do is write love letters to trump and he will gladly bend over and give you whatever you want.

Your but Clinton here is totally lame. Are you seriously arguing that trump is accomplishing something with North Korea? Perhaps you could articulate what exactly that accomplishment is without resorting to a But Clinton or a but Obama. 

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