Tankers Afire in Gulf of Oman

[Brisketexan 105307]

The whole thing is just nuts.  Iran is the last country that wants a shooting war with the US.  Israel would be more subtle.
This feels like the Saudis - it's about as clumsy as kidnapping a journalist, cutting him up in an embassy, and sending the remains out in diplomatic pouches.

Like that would ever happen.

[atomheartbevo 89787]

1 hour ago, Victorious1 said:

Latest news has them being placed on the ships with drones.  Crews claimed to have seen "flying objects" just before explosions.

That sounds even more ginned up.   My brother-in-law has a couple of drones that he uses for photography/surveying stuff - they use a fancy camera (fancy being a DSLR), and it takes something like a 25 pound drone to carry a 4 or 5 pound DSLR.  And they are still pretty tight on the range.

I would imagine a drone capable of carrying a limpet mine would be Pretty Fucking Big.

[atomheartbevo 89787]

 

[Updawg 2286]

 

No way

[atomheartbevo 89787]

9 minutes ago, Updawg said:

11 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

No way

[Pig Bellmont 8736]

31 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

“Yutaka Katada, chief executive of the Japanese company operating the ship called Kokuka Courageous, one of two vessels attacked near the Strait of Hormuzon Thursday, said the damage could not have been caused by mines or torpedos that are shot underwater, since the damage was reportedly above the ship’s waterline. “

[Neonmoon 38130]

US pulling the old drone missile strike and blame it on Iran to start a war with Iran trick?

[crash_davis 23115]

eye witness account: 'flying objects"

us: no, no, it was mines.  we have convenient footage of idiot iranians returning to the scene of the crime to remove an unexploded mine.  because iranians are that stupid.

 

who should we believe??????

[Kringelbert Fishtybuns 944]

“Iran did do it and you know they did it because you saw the boat,” Trump said. “They’re in deep, deep trouble.”

 

[crash_davis 23115]

this is the bizarro world we are living in.  i had to google the deep, deep trouble quote to see if it was a joke.  lo and behold, it wasn't.  what amazing times!

[Armybrat 40890]

Y’know, the rooskies are as desperate for more oil revenue to finance their military-industrial complex as the Saudis are to prop up their corrupt national welfare scheme for their citizen masses & their own personal opulent lifestyle.

[Armybrat 40890]

1 hour ago, Updawg said:

2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

No way

With LBJ?

[gecko 1104]

If this is some sort of a false flag it isn't intended to start a shooting war....it's intent is to further isolate Iran form the rest of humanity.

And yes.....if it is it's pretty clumsy

Edited June 14, 2019 by gecko

[Ghost of LL 15539]

2 hours ago, gecko said:

If this is some sort of a false flag it isn't intended to start a shooting war....it's intent is to further isolate Iran form the rest of humanity.

And yes.....if it is it's pretty clumsy

So you're saying it was definitely the CIA?

[Newdoc 3452]

We have never used a false flag of attack to engage in a war. Well, except the Gulf of Tonkin and Vietnam but most Americans who remember that are dead. So carry on Mr. Bolton!

[SDG 3319]

Even though I agree with alot of whats been said it’s probably time to move this thread to CR.  

[Brisketexan 105307]

GOLL had a good hypothesis -- what were Eric Prince and Blackwater doing the other day?  Because this war will be a moneymaker for them.

[Irwin F Fletcher 3550]

6 minutes ago, SDG said:

Even though I agree with alot of whats been said it’s probably time to move this thread to CR.  

We're already there, come on in the water's fine.

[Newdoc 3452]

5 minutes ago, SDG said:

Even though I agree with alot of whats been said it’s probably time to move this thread to CR.  

Possibly but that’s like having a conversation in the Living Room and suggesting everyone go sit in the septic tank.

[SDG 3319]

2 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

Possibly but that’s like having a conversation in the Living Room and suggesting everyone go sit in the septic tank.

Its only the living room because we have a septic tank to the keep shit contained.  

Edited June 14, 2019 by SDG

[Hate 20143]

Can someone please explain to me when it is ok to believe the US intelligence community? It seems that it depends on what narrative you want to support.

 

[atomheartbevo 89787]

I trust the Japanese.  They wake up early, they have some real pearls of wisdom when it comes to this stuff, and they are midway to figuring this all out.  

[El Diablo 4232]

1984 called, they want their CIA back.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1984/04/07/cia-helped-to-mine-ports-in-nicaragua/762f775f-6733-4dd4-b692-8f03c8a0aef8/?utm_term=.82e1e4b5def3

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

33 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I trust the Japanese.  They wake up early, they have some real pearls of wisdom when it comes to this stuff, and they are midway to figuring this all out.  

We all know what happened at Midway.

[miguelito 11304]

and wake and pearl.  pretty clever, atom!

[crash_davis 23115]

this should take it to CR.  but fuck it, it's funny.

[ChickenSandwich 9850]

20 hours ago, Telegraph_it said:

Enhance. 

 

 

Take them out with a Drone and see who shows up for the funeral

[Liquor and Poker 3659]

I swear this was the plot of that John Candy movie where we invaded Canada.  

[atomheartbevo 89787]

2 hours ago, Liquor and Poker said:

I swear this was the plot of that John Candy movie where we invaded Canada.  

Canadians would be much more competent and polite about it.

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I trust the Japanese.  They wake up early, they have some real pearls of wisdom when it comes to this stuff, and they are midway to figuring this all out.  

Zero chance they are lying. 

[mycox 582]

10 hours ago, Newdoc said:

We have never used a false flag of attack to engage in a war. Well, except the Gulf of Tonkin and Vietnam but most Americans who remember that are dead. So carry on Mr. Bolton!

Don't forget war against Iraq

[Steel Shank 9430]

We wouldn't need tankers if we laid more pipe.

[Armybrat 40890]

14 hours ago, Newdoc said:

We have never used a false flag of attack to engage in a war. Well, except the Gulf of Tonkin and Vietnam but most Americans who remember that are dead. So carry on Mr. Bolton!

some of us are still around, including a friend of mine who was on the Turner Joy.

Edited June 15, 2019 by Armybrat

[Parliament 14291]

Eco terrorists are blowing up tankers so as to make oil unavailable so we hafta go all to solar.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

1 minute ago, Parliament said:

Eco terrorists are blowing up tankers so as to make oil unavailable so we hafta go all to solar.

Fucking hate PETA !!!

[MaybeACoordinator 8349]

[RoundRocked 0]

So should I go enlist or not? 

[Brisketexan 105307]

1 minute ago, RoundRocked said:

So should I go enlist or not? 

Do folks call you the Cruiser?

 

[Gatorubet 30298]

We have never used a false flag of attack to engage in a war. Well, except the Gulf of Tonkin and Vietnam but most Americans who remember that are dead. So carry on Mr. Bolton!

Armybrat remembers the Maine...

[Dennis Taylor 18861]

5 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Do folks call you the Cruiser?

 

Just the guys in his car club

[atomheartbevo 89787]

9 hours ago, RoundRocked said:

So should I go enlist or not? 

United States Space Force

[Schulz2.0 29009]

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/world/mines-used-in-tanker-attack-look-like-those-shown-by-iranian-military-explosives-expert-says/2019/06/19/3cc4cd4c-9294-11e9-956a-88c291ab5c38_story.html?outputType=amp

[atomheartbevo 89787]

59 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

https://beta.washingtonpost.com/world/mines-used-in-tanker-attack-look-like-those-shown-by-iranian-military-explosives-expert-says/2019/06/19/3cc4cd4c-9294-11e9-956a-88c291ab5c38_story.html?outputType=amp

Putting aside that it’s the US reporting this, why do this:

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He said that the placement of the mines above the Japanese tanker’s water line, however, suggested that the intention was not to sink the vessel.

That part of the world, with those actors, there’s not a whole lot of difference between punching somebody in the face and giving them a black eye, and punching somebody in the face, knocking out teeth, breaking their nose and giving them a concussion.   It’s n act of war.  

Oh, and as the article mentions, or one of the others, Iran has sold/exported these for a while.  

[gecko 1104]

We assume that the leaders in Tehran have control over more radical elements.  It's entirely possible the left hand didn't approve of what the right hand was up to....

[Rusty Shackelford 414]

Meanwhile, our allies have possession of two of Iranian tankers:

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-iran-tanker/iran-threatens-british-shipping-in-retaliation-for-tanker-seizure-idUSKCN1U00S5?il=0

https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2019/07/05/iran-saudi-happiness-tanker-tussle/#5734e30d4ed0

[Gil Bang 26000]

 

[ChickenSandwich 9850]

So when Iran denies any involvement, does that give the green light to light them up with some drones?

*small boats

Edited July 11, 2019 by ChickenSandwich

[Gil Bang 26000]

Iran has seized a Brit tanker?

 

 

[retread 2951]

From AP

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TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — The Latest on developments related to tensions between the U.S and Iran (all times local):

11:05 p.m.

The operator of oil tanker Stena Impero says it is unable to contact the ship after it was approached by unidentified vessels and a helicopter in the Strait of Hormuz.

Northern Marine Management and shipping firm Stena Bulk say in a statement that the vessel was in international waters and is now heading toward Iran. The ship has 23 crew aboard.

The British government says it is urgently seeking information after reports Iran has seized the British-flagged ship.

 

Edited July 19, 2019 by retread

[Smax 3800]

Just heard on the radio they have 2 British tankers