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  On 6/14/2019 at 5:20 AM, Zepol87 said:

Who are the ones that wear long skirts? I had a neighbor growing up that always wore that.. whole family was weird. All the kids ended up strung out on meth and heroin. The dad evidently had a few wives across the country also. That family was fucked but they loved their lord

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Did the women wear their hair piled up high? That'd be Church of God.

We were not Church of God, but my mom had a friend who was. That's how as a 12-year-old trombone-player I got parceled out to that church as a favor to my mom's friend. My job was to hide in the balcony, and whenever the visiting Faith Healer mentioned "angels" I was supposed to give a trumpet-blast, except on a trombone because that was what my free child-labor ass possessed during my one year in band.

I wasn't good, but I was loud. The people really appreciated it, not enough to pay me money, but they were happy. Very Flannery O'Connor Wise Blood vibe to the proceedings.

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  On 6/14/2019 at 4:32 PM, cactusflinthead said:

Enough to know that I don't want any part of them. Been a while since I've seen anything on them. 

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No one ever expects the Spanish Opus Dei.

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Josemaría Escrivá. Saint Josemaría Escrivá de Balaguer y Albás (9 January 1902 – 26 June 1975) was a Roman Catholic priest from Spain who initiated Opus Dei, an organization of laypeople and priests dedicated to the teaching that everyone is called to holiness by God and that ordinary life can result in sanctity.
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  On 6/14/2019 at 4:35 PM, RDCanecutter said:

No one ever expects the Spanish Opus Dei.

 

 

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Of course you know I'm going to dig. First read was Fr. Jim

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2012/12/13/opus-dei-united-states-february-25-1995

I'll get something more current later. If I can find it. 

Back to the Baptists. I saw something earlier this week about Paige Patterson. See if I can find it again. 

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  On 6/14/2019 at 4:33 PM, RDCanecutter said:

Did the women wear their hair piled up high? That'd be Church of God.

We were not Church of God, but my mom had a friend who was. That's how as a 12-year-old trombone-player I got parceled out to that church as a favor to my mom's friend. My job was to hide in the balcony, and whenever the visiting Faith Healer mentioned "angels" I was supposed to give a trumpet-blast, except on a trombone because that was what my free child-labor ass possessed during my one year in band.

I wasn't good, but I was loud. The people really appreciated it, not enough to pay me money, but they were happy. Very Flannery O'Connor Wise Blood vibe to the proceedings.

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Aren't there Pentecostals that dress like that?  In the restaurant business, servers would fake seizures to avoid waiting on them.  I hated when they would come in, because they tended to be amateurish at dining out and they tipped terribly AF.

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  On 6/14/2019 at 8:01 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Where I come from, the only thing anyone might refer to as a "Mennonite style compound," we would call a "farm."

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Off topic, but those people get shit done.  If a Mennonite girl watched any of us try to dig a post hole they'd point and call you a bitchmade punk.

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  On 6/14/2019 at 7:26 PM, scottsins said:

Aren't there Pentecostals that dress like that?  In the restaurant business, servers would fake seizures to avoid waiting on them.  I hated when they would come in, because they tended to be amateurish at dining out and they tipped terribly AF.

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Could be they're all the same thing. I've never seen snake handlers but I have seen people baratararaarrsheya sheyakana bratumena speak in tongues.

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  On 6/14/2019 at 8:10 PM, SimonBolivar said:

We love compounds in this area man.

 

Image result for waco compound

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Mennonites are pacifists and don't stockpile illegal weapons caches. To my knowledge, no Mennonite leader has ever claimed to be the Messiah nor forced his parishioners to let him impregnate their underage daughters. 

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Also, the way I heard the joke was:

Q: What happens when you take a Mennonite fishing?
A: He drinks all your beer.

Q: What happens when you take two Mennonites fishing?
A: They don't drink any of your beer. 

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  On 6/14/2019 at 9:24 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Mennonites are pacifists and don't stockpile illegal weapons caches. To my knowledge, no Mennonite leader has ever claimed to be the Messiah nor forced his parishioners to let him impregnate their underage daughters. 

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Again these guys aren't necessarily Mennonites (though they claim a strong Anabaptist connection and they are pacifists)...

https://www.texasobserver.org/heritage-of-abuse/

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  On 6/14/2019 at 10:13 PM, SimonBolivar said:

Again these guys aren't necessarily Mennonites (though they claim a strong Anabaptist connection and they are pacifists)...

https://www.texasobserver.org/heritage-of-abuse/

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Holy crap. Here's a tip: When church leaders tell you how to respond if someone asks you if you're in a cult, you're in a cult. Certain aspects of that story sound like Scientology. 

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From age 5, Sandy said she was sexually abused by two different men. She told an elder about the abuse she suffered, who in turn informed other elders in the church. But instead of taking the matter to police, Sandy said, the elders dis-fellowshipped the individuals she said were culpable and forced her to accept responsibility for “her part” in what they deemed “immoral relationships.”

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Goddammit, that shit pisses me off. And it's common to all conservative religious groups. No surprise some guy from Baylor wrote a puff piece about this gang. 

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Throughout, they would vacillate between positive and negative, and all meetings were conducted by the imposing Adams, standing behind the lectern with his booming voice. “In the beginning, he’d shower you with love and praise,” John said. “Then he’d berate somebody on the spot. It would go on and on like this.” It was, he said, an intense mix of “Pentecostal preacher with fire-and-brimstone judgment.” John said his father was a leader one minute and demoted the next.

Experts say this is a classic tactic employed by cults to maintain control; that members (and elders) are reprimanded in front of the rest of the congregation one day, and ‘love-bombed’ the next. According to several ex-members I spoke to, the only person who has never “fallen from grace” in this way is Blair Adams.

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That sounds a lot like how Trump runs his business from most of the accounts I've heard. 

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But hey, at least the good Baptists are agin abortion.

 

A former Southern Baptist pastor who supported legislation in Texas that would have criminalized abortions has been arrested on charges of child sex abuse, accused of repeatedly molesting a teenage relative over the course of two years.

 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/texas-pastor-backed-bill-criminalizing-abortion-arrested-63746067

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  On 6/13/2019 at 10:55 PM, Pescado_Rojo said:

The problem with AME churches is you'll starve to death before you get to eat. They go looooonng. 

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We visited my wife's sister one time up in podunk Texas and had to go to church with them at the sbc. Only time I can remember that I've ever been in a service at an sbc.

Preacher got up and started praying, and praying, thank you lord jesus, on and on, praying praying. He said thank you lord jesus for about the 100th time and my good methodist

son yells out "Still?".

 

SBC will starve you to.

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  On 6/17/2019 at 2:11 PM, relapse98 said:

We visited my wife's sister one time up in podunk Texas and had to go to church with them at the sbc. Only time I can remember that I've ever been in a service at an sbc.

Preacher got up and started praying, and praying, thank you lord jesus, on and on, praying praying. He said thank you lord jesus for about the 100th time and my good methodist

son yells out "Still?".

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Hey now!

Don't you know that theological rigor enforces white male heterosexual privilege?

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  On 6/14/2019 at 2:33 PM, SimonBolivar said:

As kids we'd go on field trips to see how they live and make their crafts. They have a damn good restaurant out there too that is the highest rated in the Waco area.

https://www.yelp.com/biz/cafe-homestead-waco

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That's right, now I remember where I had heard of this place before.

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A Texas Observer investigation has found allegations of child sex abuse involving at least six members of the Homestead Heritage community. Three members have been convicted of sexually assaulting minors. A fourth has been charged and will likely soon plead guilty. The Observer found more allegations of sexual abuse of children that have never been reported to the authorities.

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What is in the water in Waco that causes these compounds to go all wacky.

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It’s what’s not in the water that makes them go whacky.  

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Scandals.  Cheating.  Sexual Assault.  Lying.  Rampant immorality.  

And all these fuckers can chant is SBC!  SBC!  SBC!  

Congrats to the SBC, the SEC of organized religion. 

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It's really getting harder and harder to tell in this country, which organized religion has the dumbest people who'll overlook the worst shit.  

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  On 6/22/2019 at 3:11 AM, Lobo said:

It's really getting harder and harder to tell in this country, which organized religion has the dumbest people who'll overlook the worst shit.  

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Out of the so-call "Christian" religions, it's the so-called "christians" who call themselves catholic and baptist.

 

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  On 7/9/2019 at 2:21 PM, DigglerontheHoof said:

This cunt is the epitome of Southern Baptist preachers.  Bigoted, misogynistic and ignorant.  It's like a prerequisite for the position. 

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I'd say it's the exact opposite. They're not ignorant. They know that they're spewing bullshit. Being in that line of work demands it. When you go into it, you have to go through an area of study where it is your duty to offer limitless excuses to defend contradictions in the sacred texts and for the reality that no evidence of a supreme being or an afterlife actually exists and that they only live in argument, and that when engaged in a debate you literally have to memorize every single logical fallacy that there is in the desperate hope that Gish Galloping the opponent to death will obscure the discussion. They call it "apologetics."

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