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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I guess Tillman really can't afford to hire anyone that doesn't cost a couple hundo-thousand and some gift cards to whichever of his shitty restaurants are still open. 

I honestly think its that not many want to coach that team.    They are locked into that roster and not many other coaches want to play with a 6'5 C

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6 minutes ago, d2o said:

I honestly think its that not many want to coach that team.    They are locked into that roster and not many other coaches want to play with a 6'5 C

There probably is something to that. It's the same reason why I don't think that Harden would result in a huge return if traded. For better or worse, Houston is the James Harden Experience now. The style is so ingrained now--to the tune of 35+ ppg scoring averages and a half dozen top 3 MVP votes--what coach is going to be able to convince him to give up the ball and go set a screen?

Any incoming coach isn't realistically going to be able to change the system.

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2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

The coach won't matter with their current roster. 

They should hire someone young and unproven that can captain a rebuild. 

Only way they can rebuild is if they dump Harden and Westbrook.    Like Aggie said, neither are gonna change how they play and I cant imagine either would be happy with a rebuild. 

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21 minutes ago, d2o said:

Only way they can rebuild is if they dump Harden and Westbrook.    Like Aggie said, neither are gonna change how they play and I cant imagine either would be happy with a rebuild. 

Right. I'm saying someone that can stick around through Russ and Harden and be okay with an upcoming tank. 

But they won't do that - even though there are no reasonable "win now" candidates. Pop isn't going to Houston. Spo, Stevens, Snyder, Malone, Carlisle aren't leaving. No one else moves the needle enough for them to win with aging Westbrook as their 2nd best player. 

I'm guessing they hire Donovan (nvm - I thought he had already got scooped but couldn't remeber). And they will be a 3-5 seed and flame out in the first round.

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Wait a minute, in the year 2020, a real NBA franchise is going to hire John Lucas who coached the Spurs 100 years ago? The guy who took over for Jerry Tarkanian? Holy shit he was a bad coach. Better than Tark, at least at the NBA level, but holy Morris McHone, John Lucas was an awful coach. Like, roll out the ball and see what happens while he jumped around on the sideline looking like a spastic George Jefferson after he just walked in on Weezy giving Mr. Bentley a hummer.

His idea of strategy was to iso David Robinson on every fucking possession and see if he could make chicken salad out of chicken shit. If he missed, Rodman (a version of the Worm before he went completely crazy) would go hunt down the rebound and give it back to him. That surprisingly worked well enough to get Robinson the scoring title, Rodman the rebounding title, plus 55 wins and homecourt advantage in the first round,. But they were absolutely lost in the playoffs. No clue, no adjustments, no discipline. On second thought, he might be perfect for the Rockets.

The most notable thing that John Lucas ever did as a coach was to hire George Gervin as his assistant. They would play each other in HORSE before the games. Ice would kill him by making bank shots from every conceivable angle. Off the fucking shot clock. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Wait a minute, in the year 2020, a real NBA franchise is going to hire John Lucas who coached the Spurs 100 years ago? The guy who took over for Jerry Tarkanian? Holy shit he was a bad coach. Better than Tark, at least at the NBA level, but holy Morris McHone, John Lucas was an awful coach. Like, roll out the ball and see what happens while he jumped around on the sideline looking like a spastic George Jefferson after he just walked in on Weezy giving Mr. Bentley a hummer.

His idea of strategy was to iso David Robinson on every fucking possession and see if he could make chicken salad out of chicken shit. If he missed, Rodman (a version of the Worm before he went completely crazy) would go hunt down the rebound and give it back to him. That surprisingly worked well enough to get Robinson the scoring title, Rodman the rebounding title, plus 55 wins and homecourt advantage in the first round,. But they were absolutely lost in the playoffs. No clue, no adjustments, no discipline. On second thought, he might be perfect for the Rockets.

The most notable thing that John Lucas ever did as a coach was to hire George Gervin as his assistant. They would play each other in HORSE before the games. Ice would kill him by making bank shots from every conceivable angle. Off the fucking shot clock. 

 

Ok, this had me cracking up.

 

Yeah he was pretty bad and hasn't been a HC in at least 10-15 yrs.  He's a good asst to the asst and really good at helping troubled guys rehab but no way in 202 should he be in line for a HC job.   Especially not for a team that claims to be trying to win a title.     That HOU org is rotten all the way to the top.

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1 hour ago, ztejas said:

Right. I'm saying someone that can stick around through Russ and Harden and be okay with an upcoming tank. 

But they won't do that - even though there are no reasonable "win now" candidates. Pop isn't going to Houston. Spo, Stevens, Snyder, Malone, Carlisle aren't leaving. No one else moves the needle enough for them to win with aging Westbrook as their 2nd best player. 

I'm guessing they hire Donovan (nvm - I thought he had already got scooped but couldn't remeber). And they will be a 3-5 seed and flame out in the first round.

Donovan would probably rather shoot himself in the dick than voluntarily tie his coaching wagon to a team with Westbrook on it again.

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1 hour ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Wait a minute, in the year 2020, a real NBA franchise is going to hire John Lucas who coached the Spurs 100 years ago? The guy who took over for Jerry Tarkanian? Holy shit he was a bad coach. Better than Tark, at least at the NBA level, but holy Morris McHone, John Lucas was an awful coach. Like, roll out the ball and see what happens while he jumped around on the sideline looking like a spastic George Jefferson after he just walked in on Weezy giving Mr. Bentley a hummer.

His idea of strategy was to iso David Robinson on every fucking possession and see if he could make chicken salad out of chicken shit. If he missed, Rodman (a version of the Worm before he went completely crazy) would go hunt down the rebound and give it back to him. That surprisingly worked well enough to get Robinson the scoring title, Rodman the rebounding title, plus 55 wins and homecourt advantage in the first round,. But they were absolutely lost in the playoffs. No clue, no adjustments, no discipline. On second thought, he might be perfect for the Rockets.

The most notable thing that John Lucas ever did as a coach was to hire George Gervin as his assistant. They would play each other in HORSE before the games. Ice would kill him by making bank shots from every conceivable angle. Off the fucking shot clock. 

 

Quality shit right here.

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5 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Wait a minute, in the year 2020, a real NBA franchise is going to hire John Lucas who coached the Spurs 100 years ago? The guy who took over for Jerry Tarkanian? Holy shit he was a bad coach. Better than Tark, at least at the NBA level, but holy Morris McHone, John Lucas was an awful coach. Like, roll out the ball and see what happens while he jumped around on the sideline looking like a spastic George Jefferson after he just walked in on Weezy giving Mr. Bentley a hummer.

His idea of strategy was to iso David Robinson on every fucking possession and see if he could make chicken salad out of chicken shit. If he missed, Rodman (a version of the Worm before he went completely crazy) would go hunt down the rebound and give it back to him. That surprisingly worked well enough to get Robinson the scoring title, Rodman the rebounding title, plus 55 wins and homecourt advantage in the first round,. But they were absolutely lost in the playoffs. No clue, no adjustments, no discipline. On second thought, he might be perfect for the Rockets.

The most notable thing that John Lucas ever did as a coach was to hire George Gervin as his assistant. They would play each other in HORSE before the games. Ice would kill him by making bank shots from every conceivable angle. Off the fucking shot clock. 

 

Nice

 

Morey keeps getting passes because he takes so many gambles. At some point he has to produce. If your designated 3pt specialist keeps missing are you going to keep letting him shoot? Taking the shot is only half the equation.

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Harden could still change his game but would need to go to one of the franchises with an incredibly strong culture. Spurs and Heat come to mind. Neither put up with much BS no matter who you are.

He will never change playing for the Rockets, that is for sure. And the team as constructed will never win a title.

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On 10/5/2020 at 1:08 PM, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Wait a minute, in the year 2020, a real NBA franchise is going to hire John Lucas who coached the Spurs 100 years ago? The guy who took over for Jerry Tarkanian? Holy shit he was a bad coach. Better than Tark, at least at the NBA level, but holy Morris McHone, John Lucas was an awful coach. Like, roll out the ball and see what happens while he jumped around on the sideline looking like a spastic George Jefferson after he just walked in on Weezy giving Mr. Bentley a hummer.

His idea of strategy was to iso David Robinson on every fucking possession and see if he could make chicken salad out of chicken shit. If he missed, Rodman (a version of the Worm before he went completely crazy) would go hunt down the rebound and give it back to him. That surprisingly worked well enough to get Robinson the scoring title, Rodman the rebounding title, plus 55 wins and homecourt advantage in the first round,. But they were absolutely lost in the playoffs. No clue, no adjustments, no discipline. On second thought, he might be perfect for the Rockets.

The most notable thing that John Lucas ever did as a coach was to hire George Gervin as his assistant. They would play each other in HORSE before the games. Ice would kill him by making bank shots from every conceivable angle. Off the fucking shot clock. 

 

The rockets aren’t a real franchise with Broke ass Tillman Ferntits calling the shots. 

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1 hour ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

Bam keeps another 3-point shooter off the floor. So he'll be a net positive on defense and the boards, but it will make it easier for the Lakers to defend and play 2 bigs. 

Thats a scorching hot take but I'm not sure I don't like it.

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10 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

I'm pissed off for not watching game 3 and what was an all-time performance. Guess I'm back in tonight, at least until I'm not.

/Csb

 

Eh. I've seen enough NBA basketball for a lifetime.

I guess I wish I had tuned in, but I don't regret shit like that. I don't owe the Heat and Lakers my attention. There's already more basketball to watch tonight.

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2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Eh. I've seen enough NBA basketball for a lifetime.

I guess I wish I had tuned in, but I don't regret shit like that. I don't owe the Heat and Lakers my attention. There's already more basketball to watch tonight.

To each his own I suppose but I don't even understand this take.   

 

EDIT:  Then again you already said that reg season NFL is more of a draw to you than playoff basketball.

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1 minute ago, d2o said:

He gave it a shot but no go for Dragic

 

Sources are telling me a prime Alonzo Mourning is warming up in the gym. How he got there or reversed his aging is uncertain - the bubble remains a mystery - but what is certain is that the Lakers are in trouble.

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2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Sources are telling me a prime Alonzo Mourning is warming up in the gym. How he got there or reversed his aging is uncertain - the bubble remains a mystery - but what is certain is that the Lakers are in trouble.

Dude.

 

His injury is one that sometimes can be played through.    Joe Johnson took painkiller shots and played through it a few yrs ago.

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40 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Was just thinking what OkC needed was some more draft picks. 

Guess that explains why Donovan left. They're ahead of schedule, but instead of making a big move and trying to win, management wants to build (even moreso) for the future.

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I swear to god, why is Pop the only coach in the league who tells his players to let LeBron (and other elite finishers) score when they get underneath the basket?

Contesting has such a low reward to risk ratio. You're almost never going to alter his shot cleanly, so your options are an and-1 or a foul (whether legit or ref-assisted).

 

LOL as I speak Butler just let LeBron score without contesting when LeBron was in dunk range. 

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