2019-2020 NBA Season Thread

[BradInATX 9,208]

I don't really understand some of Herro's decision making in this game. Passes out of a wide open 3 and on the same possession takes a much harder, more contested 3. Some poor turnovers. He needs to settle down and play within himself. Has to be driving Spo nuts.

[Sbbruin 21,900]

Lakers were 55-0 when leading after 3 this season. Bodes well.

[ztejas 43,556]

18 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I've never seen someone look injured after a play as much as AD does.

I mean seriously. Get your ass of the court. This isn't Okinawa. 

[BradInATX 9,208]

3 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I mean seriously. Get your ass of the court. This isn't Okinawa. 

20 seconds later... on the court running around and throwing alley oops down like nothing happened.

[Sbbruin 21,900]

Wait they let a whole play run and then can go back and review?

[BradInATX 9,208]

I don't know that it would have changed the outcome of the series, but the Heat desperately miss Dragic offensively. They look lost and a bit overwhelmed when anyone but Butler has the ball. They badly need a floor general out there. They could use his 20ppg too.

Edited October 7, 2020 by BradInATX

[Radical Larry 28,664]

 

[ztejas 43,556]

1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

Wait they let a whole play run and then can go back and review?

Yeah I didn't know you could do that on shot clock violations. I guess it makes sense as they inbound it from underneath the basket either way. 

[Sbbruin 21,900]

Ballgame

[Agent 13 314]

1 minute ago, Sbbruin said:

Ballgame

The jello's jiggling?

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,406]

4 hours ago, ztejas said:

Thats a scorching hot take but I'm not sure I don't like it.

I toll you meng. That weird pony tail guy who shoots 3s makes their spacing so much better. 

[Sbbruin 21,900]

2 minutes ago, Agent 13 said:

The jello's jiggling?

And the butter’s getting hard.

[Sbbruin 21,900]

5 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah I didn't know you could do that on shot clock violations. I guess it makes sense as they inbound it from underneath the basket either way. 

But the Lakers had already scored after.  Would they waive that off?

[ztejas 43,556]

Just now, Sbbruin said:

But the Lakers had already scored after.  Would they waive that off?

No lol

[ztejas 43,556]

4 minutes ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

That weird pony tail guy who shoots 3s makes their spacing so much better. 

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[BradInATX 9,208]

LeBron James school of fouls:

Defender doesn't touch you: Complain loudly to the refs

Defender makes light contact: Flail like you were shot out of a cannon, complain to refs

Defender actually lays a good clean foul on you: Try to fight defender and act like he shot your first born child

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,406]

1 minute ago, BradInATX said:

LeBron James school of fouls:

Defender doesn't touch you: Complain loudly to the refs

Defender makes light contact: Flail like you were shot out of a cannon, complain to refs

Defender actually lays a good clean foul on you: Try to fight defender and act like he shot your first born child

That's some weak sauce man. He probably gets fouled around the basket almost as much as Shaq. But he actually tries to make the shot and doesn't flail like he's been shot. Refs just chalk it up to he's "strong" so he doesn't get the call. 

I mean you did watch the game right? I don't think even a diehard heat fan would try to claim lebron got calls. 

[BradInATX 9,208]

 

 

 

That's some weak sauce man. He probably gets fouled around the basket almost as much as Shaq. But he actually tries to make the shot and doesn't flail like he's been shot. Refs just chalk it up to he's "strong" so he doesn't get the call. 

I mean you did watch the game right? I don't think even a diehard heat fan would try to claim lebron got calls. 

 

I'm not even sure what your point of contention is. Are you saying he doesn't flail and complain and beg for calls constantly? If so, that's laughable.

Or are you saying that he didn't get a bunch of favorable calls tonight, which is an argument I didn't make?

 

[ztejas 43,556]

LeBron was a badass tonight to close the game out. Hes actually making it easier to stomach this Lakers championship. He deserved another title.

He will still never be MJ, but that's okay. He's on a very short list for me and gun to my head I'd have to say he's the 2nd GOAT. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,406]

21 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not even sure what your point of contention is. Are you saying he doesn't flail and complain and beg for calls constantly? If so, that's laughable.

Or are you saying that he didn't get a bunch of favorable calls tonight, which is an argument I didn't make?

 

Yes, that's exacting what I'm saying. If you think he "flails" for calls, then you haven't watched the last 5 years or so of the NBA. 

If he "flailed" like Harden, Butler, etc, he'd get way more calls. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by totallynotabuttpirate

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,823]

I don't really understand some of Herro's decision making in this game. Passes out of a wide open 3 and on the same possession takes a much harder, more contested 3. Some poor turnovers. He needs to settle down and play within himself. Has to be driving Spo nuts.

He’s had 1 good game, 1 decent and the rest pretty bad games-shooting wise-since we crowned him the next coming of Larry bird.

 

 

He was taking some bad 2s tonight.

 

 

Also I think he either manscapes or pencils in his eyebrows and that bugs me about him

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,823]

Yes, that's exacting what I'm saying. If you think he "flails" for calls, then you haven't watched the last 5 years or so of the NBA. 
If he "flailed" like Harden, Butler, etc, he'd get way more calls. 

Oh because it’s totally normal to be 55 for 55 when entering the 4th qtr with the lead. And didn’t the lakers have like 16 4th quarter fts before the lakers even committed a foul?

Lebron is as intimidating of specimen youll find in the league and is the posterboy for superstar treatment.

He’s committed 9 personal fouls in 155 total minutes played these finals. Basically 1 a half

In 5 games Vs Denver he had 9 total fouls in 182 minutes played, one ever 20 min played

179 and *gasp* 10 personal fouls vs Houston

164 and 8 vs Portland

I have to go back to 2016-2017 in a game vs the hawks that he had 6 personal fouls. 2 games between now and that game he had 5 personal fouls. All while playing like 35 MPG

He’s an amazing player but cmon, the lebron factor does impact how a ref is going to call a game.

[BradInATX 9,208]

Yes, that's exacting what I'm saying. If you think he "flails" for calls, then you haven't watched the last 5 years or so of the NBA. 

If he "flailed" like Harden, Butler, etc, he'd get way more calls. 

 

Lulz. "LeBron doesn't flop".

 

Ok.

[usmc0331horn 967]

Butler needs to go full on Wade to get the Heat back in it and he decided to fall back last night for whatever reason.

[Pam Cummings 9,686]

8 hours ago, BradInATX said:

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not even sure what your point of contention is. Are you saying he doesn't flail and complain and beg for calls constantly? If so, that's laughable.

Or are you saying that he didn't get a bunch of favorable calls tonight, which is an argument I didn't make?

 

Every superstar in history cries to the refs and gets away with things nobody else gets away with. Even my beloved Tim Duncan.

 

Except that time Crawford ejected him for laughing. Fuck that guy.

[totallynotabuttpirate 5,406]

2 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Oh because it’s totally normal to be 55 for 55 when entering the 4th qtr with the lead. And didn’t the lakers have like 16 4th quarter fts before the lakers even committed a foul?

Lebron is as intimidating of specimen youll find in the league and is the posterboy for superstar treatment.

He’s committed 9 personal fouls in 155 total minutes played these finals. Basically 1 a half

In 5 games Vs Denver he had 9 total fouls in 182 minutes played, one ever 20 min played

179 and *gasp* 10 personal fouls vs Houston

164 and 8 vs Portland

I have to go back to 2016-2017 in a game vs the hawks that he had 6 personal fouls. 2 games between now and that game he had 5 personal fouls. All while playing like 35 MPG

He’s an amazing player but cmon, the lebron factor does impact how a ref is going to call a game.

We’re discussing the lack of calls he gets on drives going to the basket. You saw it in the game last night with multiple contact to the head and uncalled fouls on his drives. 

He’s always been an extremely intelligent defender who rarely reaches or makes stupid defense plays. You’ll notice he doesn't even jump for many shot attempts when he’s guarding one on one. He’a aggressive going for blocks as a help defender and almost never fouls on those plays. It’s insane how he avoids contact, just ask iggy. 

So yea, sounds about right. Also earlier in the game, the Heat had 24 FT attempts to just 5 for the Lakers. Not surprising that the Lakers got aggressive and the calls evened out. 
 

 

 

[BradInATX 9,208]

4 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Every superstar in history cries to the refs and gets away with things nobody else gets away with. Even my beloved Tim Duncan.

 

Except that time Crawford ejected him for laughing. Fuck that guy.

 

Duncan was nowhere near LeBron. It's literally every time he misses a shot. It's gotten significantly worse over the last few years. Somehow during LeBron's attempt to turn himself into Michael Jordan mentally, he's decided that he's incapable of missing a shot and that if he does, he must have been fouled. It's obnoxious.

Let's not suddenly start pushing a narrative that LeBron isn't one of the worst call-beggars in the NBA. He absolutely is. Even Harden doesn't cry like he does.

Edited October 7, 2020 by BradInATX

[aggie08 21,561]

29 minutes ago, usmc0331horn said:

Butler needs to go full on Wade to get the Heat back in it and he decided to fall back last night for whatever reason.

LA started hanging off him almost to the foul line, daring him to take 3's. Makes driving to the basket extremely difficult, and really stagnates the offense when he's passing up wide open looks. I didn't realize how horrible he was from 3 this season (24%); he's bumped that up in playoffs, but clearly doesn't have confidence in his shot.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

10 hours ago, ztejas said:

I've never seen someone look injured after a play as much as AD does.

Cedric Benson.

[d2o 1,602]

11 hours ago, ztejas said:

I've never seen someone look injured after a play as much as AD does.

He is the most awkward world class athlete I have ever seen.    Every time he falls I'm worried that he will be hurt.

[d2o 1,602]

This guy.........

 

[Vic Mackey 47,182]

28 minutes ago, d2o said:

This guy.........

 

You are giving Skip what he wants. Attention and promotion. He plays a villain and causes controversy and does it well. I follow him on Twitter for this reason. He riles people up. I mean this comment makes absolutely no sense and is idiotic but he knows this and knows he will get replies, promotion and some will tune into his show to see what the hell he means. Skip got his feelings hurt every round Lebron advanced. Especially when the Clippers blew the series against Denver and the Lakers got to play them instead of LAC. Every single day he cried about it and how Lebron has a cakewalk to the Finals. He said LAC was easily the best team and would have beaten the Lakers. He desperately wants Lebron to fail. As do many. He is playing to the crowd.

Winning a ring hurts your legacy? Lmao. 

Edited October 7, 2020 by Vic Mackey

[Pam Cummings 9,686]

2 hours ago, BradInATX said:

 

Duncan was nowhere near LeBron. It's literally every time he misses a shot. It's gotten significantly worse over the last few years. Somehow during LeBron's attempt to turn himself into Michael Jordan mentally, he's decided that he's incapable of missing a shot and that if he does, he must have been fouled. It's obnoxious.

Let's not suddenly start pushing a narrative that LeBron isn't one of the worst call-beggars in the NBA. He absolutely is. Even Harden doesn't cry like he does.

Well damn, i wish Tom Herman would be more like fucking lebron then.

[Pam Cummings 9,686]

1 hour ago, d2o said:

He is the most awkward world class athlete I have ever seen.    Every time he falls I'm worried that he will be hurt.

Heard someone say that every time he falls its like when you drop your phone....just holding your breath.

[BradInATX 9,208]

5 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Well damn, i wish Tom Herman would be more like fucking lebron then.

You mean not shitty? Yeah. I can get on board with that.

Edited October 7, 2020 by BradInATX

[d2o 1,602]

10 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Heard someone say that every time he falls its like when you drop your phone....just holding your breath.

Yeah I saw that tweet and it was SPOT ON!

[Mitch Cumsteen 18,598]

3 hours ago, totallynotabuttpirate said:

We’re discussing the lack of calls he gets on drives going to the basket. You saw it in the game last night with multiple contact to the head and uncalled fouls on his drives. 

There's definitely an uncalled foul on this drive.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Mitch Cumsteen

[Sbbruin 21,900]

13 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

There's definitely an uncalled foul on this drive.

It goes back to the Shaq comment earlier.  He's just so much bigger and stronger, refs just let it go.

[d2o 1,602]

31 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

There's definitely an uncalled foul on this drive.

That was a flop.   They showed it from the other angle later.  As was the one by Caruso that was called a foul on Butler.   Both Caruso and Herro acted like they got shot.

Edited October 7, 2020 by d2o

[Pam Cummings 9,686]

Butler hip checked the shit outta Caruso a few times too, it was hilarious.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Pam Cummings

[d2o 1,602]

6 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

Butler hip checked the shit outta Caruso a few times too, it was hilarious.

Yeah he did.   He is very sneaky with elbowing and pushing of guys on his drives.    He elbowed the shit out a couple guys in the BOS series on drives and they werent called.

[Pato del Muerto 52,640]

2 hours ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

There's definitely an uncalled foul on this drive.

Caruso did the same thing later in the game against butler I think and got the charge call. Exact same flop. 

[Thatguy 8,895]

15 hours ago, ztejas said:

LeBron was a badass tonight to close the game out. Hes actually making it easier to stomach this Lakers championship. He deserved another title.

He will still never be MJ, but that's okay. He's on a very short list for me and gun to my head I'd have to say he's the 2nd GOAT. 

But remember when he might not be the best player on his team tho?

[ztejas 43,556]

6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

But remember when he might not be the best player on his team tho?

Interesting way to phrase something that's still true. 

[d2o 1,602]

Just now, ztejas said:

That was a weird interpretation of my comment.

Guess I missed the joke.

[Thatguy 8,895]

4 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Interesting way to phrase something that might be true in a couple years. 

Fify

Edited October 7, 2020 by Thatguy

[ztejas 43,556]

6 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Fify

That's cool, man. I don't have a problem with people that think Steph was better than KD - even though I think they're wrong. I don't think LeBron/AD is as clear cut. If you think it is then power to you but I'm not sure what you'd be basing it on. Unless you really value assists and defensive rebounds, which is fine, Russell Westbrook won an MVP that way.

[Thatguy 8,895]

2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

That's cool, man. I don't have a problem with people that think Steph was better than KD - even though I think they're wrong. I don't think LeBron/AD is as clear cut. If you think it is then power to you but I'm not sure what you'd be basing it on. Unless you really value assists and defensive rebounds, which is fine, Russell Westbrook won an MVP that way.

   I don't know man. Maybe taking over games when the momentum is against you. Timely steals. Timely shots. Almost always making the right play. Hitting people perfectly in their shooting pockets with passes. Seemingly always able to get the best out of guys like KCP and Caruso. Leading 4 different teams, 4 different coaches, 2 different conferences, and umpteen different rosters to the finals 10 times, sometimes dragging them. Analytics are one thing. Seeing how a player affects the people around him is another.

[ztejas 43,556]

7 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

Leading 4 different teams, 4 different coaches, 2 different conferences, and umpteen different rosters to the finals 10 times, sometimes dragging them

What the fuck does that have to do with 2020? Did you miss where I said gun to my head he's the 2nd greatest player ever? Go find a stump to argue to. 

[hobbes2702 13,083]

1 hour ago, ztejas said:

What the fuck does that have to do with 2020? Did you miss where I said gun to my head he's the 2nd greatest player ever? Go find a stump to argue to. 

I have him number 2 as well. That said I think AD is proving he’s the best player in the league during this series and playoffs.