Who's going to be the first one banned from Surly?

[Vic Mackey 46927]

And that is part of the sock issue . You can mask your IP address to hide multiple socks .  The whole IP address thing is a false flag excuse.

Is there a way to tell if they are using a bullshit VPN IP address? I recall a few websites blocking sign up to their site because it recognized a VPN address was being used.

[markstanco 12501]

What's the waiting period to buy a handgun? Make it like that for new signups before they can post since it's all Cloak Room morons doing this.

They will just get one over the counter at a username show.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Just now, Vic Mackey said:

5 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

And that is part of the sock issue . You can mask your IP address to hide multiple socks .  The whole IP address thing is a false flag excuse.

Is there a way to tell if they are using a bullshit VPN IP address? I recall a few websites blocking sign up to their site because it recognized a VPN address was being used.

I'm actually having that conversation with the son who works in the cyber industry.  

[ztejas 43262]

3 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

8 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

And that is part of the sock issue . You can mask your IP address to hide multiple socks .  The whole IP address thing is a false flag excuse.

Is there a way to tell if they are using a bullshit VPN IP address? I recall a few websites blocking sign up to their site because it recognized a VPN address was being used.

2 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

I'm actually having that conversation with the son who works in the cyber industry.  

I'm not sure I understand the question. No VPN IP is any less "bullshit" than the rest. Yes, you can detect to some degree if someone is *using* a VPN, but a lot of people use VPNs. 

i.e. socks are more likely to use VPNs, probably, that doesn't mean that every inbound VPN IP is someone using a sock account. I've probably posted from dozens of different IP addresses on the same account. 

 

[mdmost 42827]

Are you a sock? If you are, you have to tell us.

[Vic Mackey 46927]

Yeah, you're right. VPNs are not banned or outlawed so you couldn't really differentiate on whom is using one to get around IP bans and whom is using one because that is just what they use.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

32 minutes ago, ztejas said:

I'm not sure I understand the question. No VPN IP is any less "bullshit" than the rest. Yes, you can detect to some degree if someone is *using* a VPN, but a lot of people use VPNs. 

i.e. socks are more likely to use VPNs, probably, that doesn't mean that every inbound VPN IP is someone using a sock account. I've probably posted from dozens of different IP addresses on the same account. 

 

Hiding an IP address or masking multiple socks isn't impossible. Different IP addresses is a reason given to explain away the claim one poster isn't multiple posters on web sites. A lot of it's way beyond my pay grade, the son has been explaining it slowly.

[Lurch 5921]

that would be fucking hilarious, but don't stop there-- give them ascending banhammer powers so that treefiddy poster #164 can ban anyone from 165 on but not the 163 above him, and don't tell anyone what their number is

Everyone has a secret retaliation target. If you get hit by the treefiddy banhammer, your target also gets hit.

[Sbbruin 21704]

Just now, Lurch said:

 

Everyone has a secret retaliation target. If you get hit by the treefiddy banhammer, your target also gets hit.

 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

Make CR only accessible to Treefiddy members. Surly stock soars. 

[tejas60 3526]

1 hour ago, Vic Mackey said:

Yeah, you're right. VPNs are not banned or outlawed so you couldn't really differentiate on whom is using one to get around IP bans and whom is using one because that is just what they use.

who is always the subject. whom is always the object.

your welcome.

[DDD Dad 14243]

1 hour ago, tejas60 said:

who is always the subject. whom is always the object.

your welcome.

What you did there.  I see it.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

What you did there.  I see it.

saw.......

[RPM 26208]

7 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Make CR only accessible to Treefiddy members. Surly stock soars. 

This is actually a great idea. Give them incentive not to get banned or they have to cough up a new subscription. Accountability works wonders.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

2 minutes ago, RPM said:

This is actually a great idea. Give them incentive not to get banned or they have to cough up a new subscription. Accountability works wonders.

Some of the tree fiddy folks just gave funds to help black labs lawsuit fees against the shaggy takeover.

[SHOOTER12 8787]

15 hours ago, immamac said:

changed it to minimum 20 rep, 20 posts, 7 days of membership

I'll see your 20, 20, 7 and raise you.......

50, 200, 30

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

10 hours ago, RPM said:

This is actually a great idea. Give them incentive not to get banned or they have to cough up a new subscription. Accountability works wonders.

Yes. And it teaches them Civics. Rich people get more say in politics. It's perfect!

[Degenerate Gardner 4081]

Administer the MMPI to all new posters.  Sure it'll be administratively burdensome, but that's not my problem - I'm just an idea man.

[hayden_horn 11360]

20 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Hiding an IP address or masking multiple socks isn't impossible. Different IP addresses is a reason given to explain away the claim one poster isn't multiple posters on web sites. A lot of it's way beyond my pay grade, the son has been explaining it slowly.

correct. as a matter of fact, it's made moderating more difficult.

but, since you will not let go of the hugo/david dennison sock thing, i can tell you that we can also see the providers when it is NOT a vpn. for instance, i can see your provider and location when i click on your IP address. i can see that you are not in texas and not an AT&T subscriber. i could see similar things on those profiles. so while i understand that you have some weird personal stake in hugo being david dennison, i can tell you that they use different providers in different locales. usually, when someone is using a vpn, we get an "unknown" or "could not resolve host" message when checking IPs.

so while i guess it's possible we have some super hackers spoofing IP addresses to post copiously under different identities, it's not the case for hugo or david dennison.

get over it.

[Jkwellborn 6651]

So that’s just two different bitches?

[Js1 85085]

13 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

So that’s just two different bitches?

3 if you count Onboard's obsession with them. 

[elfenix 34169]

1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

correct. as a matter of fact, it's made moderating more difficult.

but, since you will not let go of the hugo/david dennison sock thing, i can tell you that we can also see the providers when it is NOT a vpn. for instance, i can see your provider and location when i click on your IP address. i can see that you are not in texas and not an AT&T subscriber. i could see similar things on those profiles. so while i understand that you have some weird personal stake in hugo being david dennison, i can tell you that they use different providers in different locales. usually, when someone is using a vpn, we get an "unknown" or "could not resolve host" message when checking IPs.

so while i guess it's possible we have some super hackers spoofing IP addresses to post copiously under different identities, it's not the case for hugo or david dennison.

get over it.

obsession is what onboard does.

[Hate 20103]

correct. as a matter of fact, it's made moderating more difficult.
but, since you will not let go of the hugo/david dennison sock thing, i can tell you that we can also see the providers when it is NOT a vpn. for instance, i can see your provider and location when i click on your IP address. i can see that you are not in texas and not an AT&T subscriber. i could see similar things on those profiles. so while i understand that you have some weird personal stake in hugo being david dennison, i can tell you that they use different providers in different locales. usually, when someone is using a vpn, we get an "unknown" or "could not resolve host" message when checking IPs.
so while i guess it's possible we have some super hackers spoofing IP addresses to post copiously under different identities, it's not the case for hugo or david dennison.
get over it.

Can you at least confirm/deny that Hugo’s location is from inside Russian borders? TIA

[hayden_horn 11360]

1 minute ago, Hate said:

 

Can you at least confirm/deny that Hugo’s location is from inside Russian borders? TIA

 

i can deny that he is from within russian borders.

if i found that any poster who purported differently was posting from some sketchy ass foreign IP, they would be banned with a quickness.

[Dbeasy 14961]

i can deny that he is from within russian borders.
if i found that any poster who purported differently was posting from some sketchy ass foreign IP, they would be banned with a quickness.

Well it’s clear now. Hayden horn is Hugo’s/Dennison’s sock. Welcome. Comrade.

[Hate 20103]

Can you at least confirm/deny that Hugo is getting paid to post by the Russians...TIA.

[hayden_horn 11360]

Just now, Dbeasy said:

Well it’s clear now. Hayden horn is Hugo’s/Dennison’s sock. Welcome. Comrade.

спасибо товарич

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

the CR circle jerk can't be contained by the CR

[markstanco 12501]

спасибо товарич

Is that french?

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

48 minutes ago, markstanco said:

2 hours ago, hayden_horn said:

спасибо товарич

Is that french?

[SDG 3319]

22 minutes ago, Porn Party said:

Fuck you!!

At least you can no longer start threads.   

[RoundRobin 828]

Thanks for the quick banning. That guy sucked. 

[Brian Fantana 6667]

Kyle? He's not banned, he's just spam negging instead of posting.

[Degenerate Gardner 4081]

How's about new posters start on a 72-hour hold for observation and testing?  Safety of themselves and others, etc

[immamac 42513]

8 hours ago, tjhooker said:

have y'all been to the Surly discord?  channels seem pretty even keel.  no way someone would think otherwise.  look at the titles.

You can suggest channel names in the thread if you wanted to? I was about 15 beers deep and totally shit faced when I made it last night and just made up goofy names for shit that is relevant in the news cycle. 

[RPM 26208]

I deny everything and if you ask me under oath I'll deny that!

[RPM 26208]

Don't know whose sock Eminence Front is but he's shitposting in CR.

[Radical Larry 28528]

It's a put on. 

[Hate 20103]

Come and join the party dressed to kill.

[immamac 42513]

K, cloak room is gonna be like I'd pee in her butt now. There's no reason for new registered users to talk politics. 

100 posts and 50 rep minimum to post in CR. Existing members will be grandfathered. 

[RPM 26208]

Thanks

[SHOOTER12 8787]

3 hours ago, immamac said:

K, cloak room is gonna be like I'd pee in her butt now. There's no reason for new registered users to talk politics. 

100 posts and 50 rep minimum to post in CR. Existing members will be grandfathered. 

But...since we're talking CR, can you build a wall around it too?

Edited April 1, 2019 by SHOOTER12

[Beau Vine 53978]

10 hours ago, immamac said:

K, cloak room is gonna be like I'd pee in her butt now. There's no reason for new registered users to talk politics. 

100 posts and 50 rep minimum to post in CR. Existing members will be grandfathered. 

So we're going to have new member shitposting everywhere else to get to 100?

[immamac 42513]

I doubt they will be that persistent 

[mdmost 42827]

You can shitpost 100 hundred pretty easily but the 50 rep will be hard to get. Good way to battle the socks. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20342]

7 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You can shitpost 100 hundred pretty easily but the 50 rep will be hard to get. Good way to battle the socks. 

 

And after you go to all that trouble/effort to do that, it can all be taken away in two seconds by the mods.

Good move.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

18 minutes ago, mdmost said:

You can shitpost 100 hundred pretty easily but the 50 rep will be hard to get. Good way to battle the socks. 

Downvote shitposters. Problem solved.

[El Diablo 4232]

2 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Downvote shitposters. Problem solved.

Brilliant! negged.

[Lurch 5921]

I doubt they will be that persistent 

You must be new here

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

23 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

Brilliant! negged.