so, Jeffrey Epstein

[JimmyJames 12271]

See ya see Clarence Thomas and the Dershowitz have read the constitution a whole bunch of times and nowhere in there does it prohibit fucking post-pubescent teenage girls. Ergo, the constitution says its a ok since they are “strict constitutionalists.”

I challenge any constitutional surly lawyers to argue against that one! Proceed! 

Edited July 30, 2019 by JimmyJames

[seven 1368]

The argument is that any sex when below the age of consent is by default nonconsentual, no matter how willing the participant is. 

[Francisco 2.0 32432]

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html

 

Quote

Jeffrey E. Epstein, the wealthy financier and accused sex trafficker, had an unusual dream: He hoped to seed the human race with his DNA by impregnating women at his vast New Mexico ranch.

Mr. Epstein over the years confided to scientists and others about his scheme, according to four people familiar with his thinking, although there is no evidence that it ever came to fruition.

 

Quote

Mr. Epstein’s vision reflected his longstanding fascination with what has become known as transhumanism: the science of improving the human population through technologies like genetic engineering and artificial intelligence. Critics have likened transhumanism to a modern-day version of eugenics, the discredited field of improving the human race through controlled breeding.

 

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Interviews with more than a dozen of his acquaintances, as well as public documents, show that he used the same tactics to insinuate his way into an elite scientific community, thus allowing him to pursue his interests in eugenics and other fringe fields like cryogenics.

Lawyers for Mr. Epstein, who has pleaded not guilty to the sex-trafficking charges, did not respond to requests for comment.

 

Spoiler

Even after his 2008 conviction on charges of soliciting prostitution from a minor, Mr. Epstein attracted a glittering array of prominent scientists. They included the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, who discovered the quark; the theoretical physicist and best-selling author Stephen Hawking; the paleontologist and evolutionary biologist Stephen J. Gould; Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and best-selling author; George M. Church, a molecular engineer who has worked to identify genes that could be altered to create superior humans; and the M.I.T. theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek, a Nobel laureate.

The lure for some of the scientists was Mr. Epstein’s money. He dangled financing for their pet projects. Some of the scientists said that the prospect of financing blinded them to the seriousness of his sexual transgressions, and even led them to give credence to some of Mr. Epstein’s half-baked scientific musings.

Scientists gathered at dinner parties at Mr. Epstein’s Manhattan mansion, where Dom Pérignon and expensive wines flowed freely, even though Mr. Epstein did not drink. He hosted buffet lunches at Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics, which he had helped start with a $6.5 million donation.

Others flew to conferences sponsored by Mr. Epstein in the United States Virgin Islands and were feted on his private island there. Once, the scientists — including Mr. Hawking — crowded on board a submarine that Mr. Epstein had chartered.

The Harvard cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker said he was invited by colleagues — including Martin Nowak, a Harvard professor of mathematics and biology, and the theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss — to “salons and coffee klatsches” at which Mr. Epstein would hold court.

While some of Mr. Pinker’s peers hailed Mr. Epstein as brilliant, Mr. Pinker described him as an “intellectual impostor.”

“He would abruptly change the subject, A.D.D.-style, dismiss an observation with an adolescent wisecrack,” Mr. Pinker said.

Another scientist cultivated by Mr. Epstein, Jaron Lanier, a prolific author who is a founding father of virtual reality, said that Mr. Epstein’s ideas did not amount to science, in that they did not lend themselves to rigorous proof. Mr. Lanier said Mr. Epstein had once hypothesized that atoms behaved like investors in a marketplace.

Mr. Lanier said he had declined any funding from Mr. Epstein and that he had met with him only once after Mr. Epstein’s 2008 guilty plea.

Mr. Epstein was willing to finance research that others viewed as bizarre. He told one scientist that he was bankrolling efforts to identify a mysterious particle that might trigger the feeling that someone is watching you.

At one session at Harvard, Mr. Epstein criticized efforts to reduce starvation and provide health care to the poor because doing so increased the risk of overpopulation, said Mr. Pinker, who was there. Mr. Pinker said he had rebutted the argument, citing research showing that high rates of infant mortality simply caused people to have more children. Mr. Epstein seemed annoyed, and a Harvard colleague later told Mr. Pinker that he had been “voted off the island” and was no longer welcome at Mr. Epstein’s gatherings.

Then there was Mr. Epstein’s interest in eugenics.

On multiple occasions starting in the early 2000s, Mr. Epstein told scientists and businessmen about his ambitions to use his New Mexico ranch as a base where women would be inseminated with his sperm and would give birth to his babies, according to two award-winning scientists and an adviser to large companies and wealthy individuals, all of whom Mr. Epstein told about it.

It was not a secret. The adviser, for example, said he was told about the plans not only by Mr. Epstein, at a gathering at his Manhattan townhouse, but also by at least one prominent member of the business community. One of the scientists said Mr. Epstein divulged his idea in 2001 at a dinner at the same townhouse; the other recalled Mr. Epstein discussing it with him at a 2006 conference that he hosted in St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands.

The idea struck all three as far-fetched and disturbing. There is no indication that it would have been against the law.

Once, at a dinner at Mr. Epstein’s mansion on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Mr. Lanier said he talked to a scientist who told him that Mr. Epstein’s goal was to have 20 women at a time impregnated at his 33,000-square-foot Zorro Ranch in a tiny town outside Santa Fe. Mr. Lanier said the scientist identified herself as working at NASA, but he did not remember her name.

According to Mr. Lanier, the NASA scientist said Mr. Epstein had based his idea for a baby ranch on accounts of the Repository for Germinal Choice, which was to be stocked with the sperm of Nobel laureates who wanted to strengthen the human gene pool. (Only one Nobel Prize winner has acknowledged contributing sperm to it. The repository discontinued operations in 1999.)

Mr. Lanier, the virtual-reality creator and author, said he had the impression that Mr. Epstein was using the dinner parties — where some guests were attractive women with impressive academic credentials — to screen candidates to bear Mr. Epstein’s children.

Mr. Epstein made no secret of his interest in tinkering with genes — and in perpetuating his own DNA.

One adherent of transhumanism said that he and Mr. Epstein discussed the financier’s interest in cryogenics, an unproven science in which people’s bodies are frozen to be brought back to life in the future. Mr. Epstein told this person that he wanted his head and penis to be frozen.

Southern Trust Company, Mr. Epstein’s Virgin Island-incorporated business, disclosed in a local filing that it was engaged in DNA analysis. Calls to Southern Trust, which sponsored a science and math fair for school children in the Virgin Islands in 2014, were not returned.

In 2011, a charity established by Mr. Epstein gave $20,000 to the Worldwide Transhumanist Association, which now operates under the name Humanity Plus. The group’s website says that its goal is “to deeply influence a new generation of thinkers who dare to envision humanity’s next steps.”

Mr. Epstein’s foundation, which is now defunct, also gave $100,000 to pay the salary of Ben Goertzel, vice chairman of Humanity Plus, according to Mr. Goertzel’s résumé.

“I have no desire to talk about Epstein right now,” Mr. Goertzel said in an email to The New York Times. “The stuff I’m reading about him in the papers is pretty disturbing and goes way beyond what I thought his misdoings and kinks were. Yecch.”

Alan M. Dershowitz, a professor emeritus of law at Harvard, recalled that at a lunch Mr. Epstein hosted in Cambridge, Mass., he steered the conversation toward the question of how humans could be improved genetically. Mr. Dershowitz said he was appalled, given the Nazis’ use of eugenics to justify their genocidal effort to purify the Aryan race.

Yet the lunches persisted.

“Everyone speculated about whether these scientists were more interested in his views or more interested in his money,” said Mr. Dershowitz, who was one of Mr. Epstein’s defense lawyers in the 2008 case.

Luminaries at Mr. Epstein’s St. Thomas conference in 2006 included Mr. Hawking and the Caltech theoretical physicist Kip S. Thorne. One participant at that conference, which was ostensibly on the subject of gravity, recalled that Mr. Epstein wanted to talk about perfecting the human genome. Mr. Epstein said he was fascinated with how certain traits were passed on, and how that could result in superior humans.

Mr. Epstein appears to have gained entree into the scientific community through John Brockman, a literary agent whose best-selling science writers include Richard Dawkins, Daniel Goleman and Jared Diamond. Mr. Brockman did not respond to requests for comment.

For two decades, Mr. Brockman presided over a series of salons that matched his scientist-authors with potential benefactors. (The so-called “billionaires’ dinners” apparently became a model for the gatherings at Mr. Epstein’s East 71st Street townhouse, which included some of the same guests.)

In 2004, Mr. Brockman hosted a dinner at the Indian Summer restaurant in Monterey, Calif., where Mr. Epstein was introduced to scientists, including Seth Lloyd, the M.I.T. physicist. Mr. Lloyd said that he found Mr. Epstein to be “charming” and to have “interesting ideas,” although they “turned out to be quite vague.”

Also at the Indian Summer dinner, according to an account on the website of Mr. Brockman’s Edge Foundation, were the Google founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page and Jeff Bezos, who was accompanied by his mother.

“All the good-looking women were sitting with the physicists’ table,” Daniel Dubno, who was a CBS producer at the time and attended the dinner, was quoted as saying. Mr. Dubno told The Times that he did not recall the dinner or having said those words.

Mr. Brockman was Mr. Gell-Mann’s agent, and Mr. Gell-Mann, in the acknowledgments section of his 1995 book “The Quark and the Jaguar,” thanked Mr. Epstein for his financial support.

However impressive his roster of scientific contacts, Mr. Epstein could not resist embellishing it. He claimed on one of his websitesto have had “the privilege of sponsoring many prominent scientists,” including Mr. Pinker, Mr. Thorne and the M.I.T. mathematician and geneticist Eric S. Lander.

Mr. Pinker said he had never taken any financial or other support from Mr. Epstein. “Needless to say, I find Epstein’s behavior reprehensible,” he said.

Mr. Thorne, who recently won a Nobel Prize, said he attended Mr. Epstein’s 2006 conference, believing it to be co-sponsored by a reputable research center. Other than that, “I have had no contact with, relationship with, affiliation with or funding from Epstein,” he said. “I unequivocally condemn his abhorrent actions involving minors.”

Lee McGuire, a spokesman for Mr. Lander, said he has had no relationship with Mr. Epstein. “Mr. Epstein appears to have made up lots of things,” Mr. McGuire said, “and this seems to be among them.”

 

Edited July 31, 2019 by Francisco 2.0

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

6 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/31/business/jeffrey-epstein-eugenics.html

 

 

 

 

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Even after his 2008 conviction on charges of soliciting prostitution from a minor, Mr. Epstein attracted a glittering array of prominent scientists. They included the Nobel Prize-winning physicist Murray Gell-Mann, who discovered the quark; the theoretical physicist and best-selling author Stephen Hawking; the paleontologist and evolutionary biologist Stephen J. Gould; Oliver Sacks, the neurologist and best-selling author; George M. Church, a molecular engineer who has worked to identify genes that could be altered to create superior humans; and the M.I.T. theoretical physicist Frank Wilczek, a Nobel laureate.

The lure for some of the scientists was Mr. Epstein’s money. He dangled financing for their pet projects. Some of the scientists said that the prospect of financing blinded them to the seriousness of his sexual transgressions, and even led them to give credence to some of Mr. Epstein’s half-baked scientific musings.

Scientists gathered at dinner parties at Mr. Epstein’s Manhattan mansion, where Dom Pérignon and expensive wines flowed freely, even though Mr. Epstein did not drink. He hosted buffet lunches at Harvard’s Program for Evolutionary Dynamics, which he had helped start with a $6.5 million donation.

Others flew to conferences sponsored by Mr. Epstein in the United States Virgin Islands and were feted on his private island there. Once, the scientists — including Mr. Hawking — crowded on board a submarine that Mr. Epstein had chartered.

The Harvard cognitive psychologist Steven Pinker said he was invited by colleagues — including Martin Nowak, a Harvard professor of mathematics and biology, and the theoretical physicist Lawrence Krauss — to “salons and coffee klatsches” at which Mr. Epstein would hold court.

While some of Mr. Pinker’s peers hailed Mr. Epstein as brilliant, Mr. Pinker described him as an “intellectual impostor.”

“He would abruptly change the subject, A.D.D.-style, dismiss an observation with an adolescent wisecrack,” Mr. Pinker said.

Another scientist cultivated by Mr. Epstein, Jaron Lanier, a prolific author who is a founding father of virtual reality, said that Mr. Epstein’s ideas did not amount to science, in that they did not lend themselves to rigorous proof. Mr. Lanier said Mr. Epstein had once hypothesized that atoms behaved like investors in a marketplace.

Mr. Lanier said he had declined any funding from Mr. Epstein and that he had met with him only once after Mr. Epstein’s 2008 guilty plea.

Mr. Epstein was willing to finance research that others viewed as bizarre. He told one scientist that he was bankrolling efforts to identify a mysterious particle that might trigger the feeling that someone is watching you.

At one session at Harvard, Mr. Epstein criticized efforts to reduce starvation and provide health care to the poor because doing so increased the risk of overpopulation, said Mr. Pinker, who was there. Mr. Pinker said he had rebutted the argument, citing research showing that high rates of infant mortality simply caused people to have more children. Mr. Epstein seemed annoyed, and a Harvard colleague later told Mr. Pinker that he had been “voted off the island” and was no longer welcome at Mr. Epstein’s gatherings.

Then there was Mr. Epstein’s interest in eugenics.

On multiple occasions starting in the early 2000s, Mr. Epstein told scientists and businessmen about his ambitions to use his New Mexico ranch as a base where women would be inseminated with his sperm and would give birth to his babies, according to two award-winning scientists and an adviser to large companies and wealthy individuals, all of whom Mr. Epstein told about it.

It was not a secret. The adviser, for example, said he was told about the plans not only by Mr. Epstein, at a gathering at his Manhattan townhouse, but also by at least one prominent member of the business community. One of the scientists said Mr. Epstein divulged his idea in 2001 at a dinner at the same townhouse; the other recalled Mr. Epstein discussing it with him at a 2006 conference that he hosted in St. Thomas in the Virgin Islands.

The idea struck all three as far-fetched and disturbing. There is no indication that it would have been against the law.

Once, at a dinner at Mr. Epstein’s mansion on Manhattan’s Upper East Side, Mr. Lanier said he talked to a scientist who told him that Mr. Epstein’s goal was to have 20 women at a time impregnated at his 33,000-square-foot Zorro Ranch in a tiny town outside Santa Fe. Mr. Lanier said the scientist identified herself as working at NASA, but he did not remember her name.

According to Mr. Lanier, the NASA scientist said Mr. Epstein had based his idea for a baby ranch on accounts of the Repository for Germinal Choice, which was to be stocked with the sperm of Nobel laureates who wanted to strengthen the human gene pool. (Only one Nobel Prize winner has acknowledged contributing sperm to it. The repository discontinued operations in 1999.)

Mr. Lanier, the virtual-reality creator and author, said he had the impression that Mr. Epstein was using the dinner parties — where some guests were attractive women with impressive academic credentials — to screen candidates to bear Mr. Epstein’s children.

Mr. Epstein made no secret of his interest in tinkering with genes — and in perpetuating his own DNA.

One adherent of transhumanism said that he and Mr. Epstein discussed the financier’s interest in cryogenics, an unproven science in which people’s bodies are frozen to be brought back to life in the future. Mr. Epstein told this person that he wanted his head and penis to be frozen.

Southern Trust Company, Mr. Epstein’s Virgin Island-incorporated business, disclosed in a local filing that it was engaged in DNA analysis. Calls to Southern Trust, which sponsored a science and math fair for school children in the Virgin Islands in 2014, were not returned.

In 2011, a charity established by Mr. Epstein gave $20,000 to the Worldwide Transhumanist Association, which now operates under the name Humanity Plus. The group’s website says that its goal is “to deeply influence a new generation of thinkers who dare to envision humanity’s next steps.”

Mr. Epstein’s foundation, which is now defunct, also gave $100,000 to pay the salary of Ben Goertzel, vice chairman of Humanity Plus, according to Mr. Goertzel’s résumé.

“I have no desire to talk about Epstein right now,” Mr. Goertzel said in an email to The New York Times. “The stuff I’m reading about him in the papers is pretty disturbing and goes way beyond what I thought his misdoings and kinks were. Yecch.”

Alan M. Dershowitz, a professor emeritus of law at Harvard, recalled that at a lunch Mr. Epstein hosted in Cambridge, Mass., he steered the conversation toward the question of how humans could be improved genetically. Mr. Dershowitz said he was appalled, given the Nazis’ use of eugenics to justify their genocidal effort to purify the Aryan race.

Yet the lunches persisted.

“Everyone speculated about whether these scientists were more interested in his views or more interested in his money,” said Mr. Dershowitz, who was one of Mr. Epstein’s defense lawyers in the 2008 case.

Luminaries at Mr. Epstein’s St. Thomas conference in 2006 included Mr. Hawking and the Caltech theoretical physicist Kip S. Thorne. One participant at that conference, which was ostensibly on the subject of gravity, recalled that Mr. Epstein wanted to talk about perfecting the human genome. Mr. Epstein said he was fascinated with how certain traits were passed on, and how that could result in superior humans.

Mr. Epstein appears to have gained entree into the scientific community through John Brockman, a literary agent whose best-selling science writers include Richard Dawkins, Daniel Goleman and Jared Diamond. Mr. Brockman did not respond to requests for comment.

For two decades, Mr. Brockman presided over a series of salons that matched his scientist-authors with potential benefactors. (The so-called “billionaires’ dinners” apparently became a model for the gatherings at Mr. Epstein’s East 71st Street townhouse, which included some of the same guests.)

In 2004, Mr. Brockman hosted a dinner at the Indian Summer restaurant in Monterey, Calif., where Mr. Epstein was introduced to scientists, including Seth Lloyd, the M.I.T. physicist. Mr. Lloyd said that he found Mr. Epstein to be “charming” and to have “interesting ideas,” although they “turned out to be quite vague.”

Also at the Indian Summer dinner, according to an account on the website of Mr. Brockman’s Edge Foundation, were the Google founders Sergey Brin and Larry Page and Jeff Bezos, who was accompanied by his mother.

“All the good-looking women were sitting with the physicists’ table,” Daniel Dubno, who was a CBS producer at the time and attended the dinner, was quoted as saying. Mr. Dubno told The Times that he did not recall the dinner or having said those words.

Mr. Brockman was Mr. Gell-Mann’s agent, and Mr. Gell-Mann, in the acknowledgments section of his 1995 book “The Quark and the Jaguar,” thanked Mr. Epstein for his financial support.

However impressive his roster of scientific contacts, Mr. Epstein could not resist embellishing it. He claimed on one of his websitesto have had “the privilege of sponsoring many prominent scientists,” including Mr. Pinker, Mr. Thorne and the M.I.T. mathematician and geneticist Eric S. Lander.

Mr. Pinker said he had never taken any financial or other support from Mr. Epstein. “Needless to say, I find Epstein’s behavior reprehensible,” he said.

Mr. Thorne, who recently won a Nobel Prize, said he attended Mr. Epstein’s 2006 conference, believing it to be co-sponsored by a reputable research center. Other than that, “I have had no contact with, relationship with, affiliation with or funding from Epstein,” he said. “I unequivocally condemn his abhorrent actions involving minors.”

Lee McGuire, a spokesman for Mr. Lander, said he has had no relationship with Mr. Epstein. “Mr. Epstein appears to have made up lots of things,” Mr. McGuire said, “and this seems to be among them.”

 

[Parliament 14357]

This guy might be straight up nuts.

[Hank Scorpio 17731]

You know what, fuck it, I'm team Epstein now. The man is a visionary and a genius and it would be a crime to imprison him. 

[Biff Tannen 45760]

Well that seems normal.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Q predicted this.

[cactusflinthead 27609]

Next oral arguments in October. 

Enjoy your stay Jeffy!

[RDCanecutter 26515]

^^^That's way better than the usual courtroom art. Must have an A-lister on the job.

[atomheartbevo 89910]

39 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Next oral arguments in October. 

Enjoy your stay Jeffy!

Judging by the marks on his next, he had a pretty rough oral argument.  

[Guest Lobo]

17 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

^^^That's way better than the usual courtroom art. Must have an A-lister on the job.

I dunno, you can barely see the marks on his neck.  I’m not really feeling the captured essence on he sketch.  I’ve seen more ominous foreshadowing in a Ziggy.  

[RDCanecutter 26515]

1 minute ago, Lobo said:

I dunno, you can barely see the marks on his neck.  I’m not really feeling the captured essence on he sketch.  I’ve seen more ominous foreshadowing in a Ziggy.  

Counterpoint: the mauves and fuchsias in the shading evoke the colors of My Little Pony, popular with young girls.

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Well that seems normal.

I dunno. Who doesn’t want their penis frozen for posterity?

And Epstein doesn’t drink either?!? The next time someone tells me I drink too much my response will be, “you know Donald trump and Jeff Epstein don’t drink at all. Think about that!”

Edited July 31, 2019 by JimmyJames

[Biff Tannen 45760]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

And Epstein doesn’t drink either?!? The next time someone tells me I drink too much my response will be, “you know Donald trump and Jeff Epstein don’t drink at all. Think about that!”

*cracks beer

[JimmyJames 12271]

2 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Q predicted this.

Oh yeah. How so?

[jimmyjazz 46374]

Yikes.  For starters, not all pregnancies are the result of consensual sex.  Furthermore, I'm sure it could be argued (BUT BUT BUT IT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION!) that below some age it isn't possible for a person to consent to sex.

[Chooky 13321]

Epstein sucks at suicide. That's how I know that goth teens weren't his flavor.

[bolverk 29780]

[bad_teammate 13228]

We are led, politically and economically, by completely depraved human beings

 

[Larry T. Spider 1747]

That guy sure seems to know a lot about how to get videos of young girls on YouTube. Just sayin.

[Trey3216 15380]

1 hour ago, bad_teammate said:

We are led, politically and economically, by completely depraved human beings

 

That’s some pretty creepy as shit.  Fucking vile

[horncyclist 1391]

3 hours ago, Trey3216 said:

That’s some pretty creepy as shit.  Fucking vile

He repeatedly calls it a "glitch" in the algorithm. That's the algorithm working. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

3 hours ago, horncyclist said:

He repeatedly calls it a "glitch" in the algorithm. That's the algorithm working. 

Youtube is in on the scheme ?

[bad_teammate 13228]

6 hours ago, horncyclist said:

He repeatedly calls it a "glitch" in the algorithm. That's the algorithm working. 

100%

This is something they could shut down very easily and it's something they've known about for a long time. These social media companies know what their users are doing.

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33909]

anyone catch that they are now calling him a multi-millionaire, instead of a billionaire? All those asset seizures musta fucked up his kid diddling portfolio

Edited August 6, 2019 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

27 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

anyone catch that they are now calling him a multi-millionaire, instead of a billionaire? All those asset seizures musta fucked up his kid diddling portfolio

I wish people would say the same thing about Trump. Being called a millionaire would absolutely get under his orange skin.

[BrickHorn 18298]

7 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

I wish people would say the same thing about Trump. Being called a millionaire would absolutely get under his orange skin.

I’ve always thought “Donald Trump is a Millionaire!” would make a good anti-Trump sign. It would piss him off, but his bumpkin fans would probably mistake it for a compliment.  

[Zavala 1384]

On 8/6/2019 at 8:17 AM, bad_teammate said:

100%

This is something they could shut down very easily and it's something they've known about for a long time. These social media companies know what their users are doing.

Yup. Spiderman Elsa videos at kids (weird sexual programming) and then once kids are old enough to figure out how to film themselves live on youtube, there is tons of pedophiles on their live chat asking them to do things. It's disgusting. 

theres a ton of videos of these pedophiles caught in the live chat on little kids livestreams..

[bad_teammate 13228]

Any video featuring under-18s should be on YouTube kids only, with no live chats or comment sections.

[TDunk 590]

Really shocked at this development.  Oh, wait.

Fun fact:  In 2005, when Jason Karim became frustrated at not being able to easily locate a video clip of Janet Jackson's SB halftime nipple popping out, he and his 2 buddies at PayPal created YouTube.  

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

1 hour ago, TDunk said:

Really shocked at this development.  Oh, wait.

Fun fact:  In 2005, when Jason Karim became frustrated at not being able to easily locate a video clip of Janet Jackson's SB halftime nipple popping out, he and his 2 buddies at PayPal created YouTube.  

God bless 'em !!!  

This new shit on the other hand is about as creepy as fuck as it gets.

[Zavala 1384]

2 hours ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

God bless 'em !!!  

This new shit on the other hand is about as creepy as fuck as it gets.

YouTube got bought out by Alphabet and they've turned into garbage. The search results are manipulated on everything to show 'trusted' MSM shit for any keywords. Basically, go back to your regularly scheduled tele vision programming. 

https://medium.com/@mikewacker/googles-manual-interventions-in-search-results-a3b0cfd3e26c

This hearing spanned many topics, including Google’s alleged bias against conservative content. In response to one such question about manipulation of search results, Sundar said, “We don’t manually intervene on any particular search result.”

Except that they do, and they do it so sloppily and obviously it's easily provable.

 

[Ted Lange 16153]

Use Bing or Yahoo then.  Free markets!!!|!1!1!!!

[Zavala 1384]

5 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Use Bing or Yahoo then.  Free markets!!!|!1!1!!!

Bing is pretty decent so is DuckDuckGo. I mostly just type in the URL or favorites rather than use search of any kind.

Anyway, back to Epstein.

https://dailycaller.com/2019/08/07/jeffery-mark-epstein-democratic-representatives/

Adam Schiff, Debbie Wasserman Schultz Advise Think Tank Led By Jeffrey Epstein’s Brother

[Continental Op 3934]

Now that we've covered the topic of weird pedo shit on YouTube now we now return you to our regularly scheduled programming of Zavala finding a way to tie everyone who has ever had anything to do with the Democrats to Epstein while ignoring any and all Republican involvement!

[bolverk 29780]

5 minutes ago, Continental Op said:

Now that we've covered the topic of weird pedo shit on YouTube now we now return you to our regularly scheduled programming of Zavala finding a way to tie everyone who has ever had anything to do with the Democrats to Epstein while ignoring any and all Republican involvement!

I'm about halfway convinced zavala=badmofo, so no.

[triplehorn 2664]

-It's not in the header, but former Israeli PM Ehud Barak is featured prominently in this article.  The links to Israeli operators seems to keep coming up wrt Epstein.

-The section on the Epstein-linked MC2 model co. is strikingly similar to how Trump Models operated: fly in young/underage girls from Europe under shady or false pretenses, stuff four girls per tiny apartment, underpay/overcharge them into debt, and generally create circumstances under which they have to crawl out.  Basically sets the stage for exploitation of some percentage of them that fall in.  The past years of their respective peak operations overlap.  Wouldn't be surprised if we learn of Trump Model girls also interfacing with Epstein's 'operation' back then.

 

[HenryJames 66231]

 

[Continental Op 3934]

 

Why in the hell is everyone carrying water for Clinton and Trump on this? I'm sure they were all just hanging out on Child Rape Island and not raping kids just like everyone else.

[WhatTheBuck 28824]

11 minutes ago, Continental Op said:

34 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

Why in the hell is everyone carrying water for Clinton and Trump on this? I'm sure they were all just hanging out on Child Rape Island and not raping kids just like everyone else.

Why is anyone hoping that either Clinton or Trump is found to have raped any underage girls? That's hoping that underaged girls got raped. Investigate and bring all guilty parties to justice. The fewer rapes, the better. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Frankly, I’m too disgusted by this story to give a shit politically.   Bring everyone guilty to justice, if that still exists.

[cactusflinthead 27609]

59 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

There's the Friday news dump that I was smelling earlier. 

Smell it up. Smell it all up.

[cactusflinthead 27609]

Oh expect more of this. 

I look forward to more revelations of depravity. 

I'll say it again. Go to and do not relent wherever it leads.

[triplehorn 2664]

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Frankly, I’m too disgusted by this story to give a shit politically.   Bring everyone guilty to justice, if that still exists.

there might end up being a significant counterintelligence aspect to this.  Can't wait to learn more about financial crimes Epstein perped over the years.  And the years of Deutsche Bank involvement that DB pulled out of when shit started to go public at the Miami Herald last winter.  The sex trafficking is one facet of this story.

[cactusflinthead 27609]

Glenn Dubin, Bill Richardson, George Mitchell, and others are mentioned. “A lot of important people are going to have a really bad weekend,” said a source

Esquire. 

George! Mitchell report fucking Senator! He had a nickname. Something something sober and judicious. 

Well, that's gone.

Edited August 9, 2019 by cactusflinthead

[Bozo_Casanova 26615]

YouTube got bought out by Alphabet and they've turned into garbage. The search results are manipulated on everything to show 'trusted' MSM shit for any keywords. Basically, go back to your regularly scheduled tele vision programming. 
https://medium.com/@mikewacker/googles-manual-interventions-in-search-results-a3b0cfd3e26c
This hearing spanned many topics, including Google’s alleged bias against conservative content. In response to one such question about manipulation of search results, Sundar said, “We don’t manually intervene on any particular search result.”
Except that they do, and they do it so sloppily and obviously it's easily provable.
 

Lolz, let me guess your weight. If I get it wrong you’ll win a prize.

[Nivek 17016]

Fuck. I didn’t need to see this. Came across my son watching one of those disturbing Elsa/Spider-Man violent shit cartoons once several years ago.

[Chooky 13321]

3 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Frankly, I’m too disgusted by this story to give a shit politically.   Bring everyone guilty to justice, if that still exists.

You should never find yourself in a place where you feel compelled to qualify that sentiment.

[cactusflinthead 27609]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Lolz, let me guess your weight. If I get it wrong you’ll win a prize.

He'll go critical any time now.