so, Jeffrey Epstein

[Hate 20232]

Lol…that’s some funny stuff.

[Pato del Muerto 53334]

2 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Lawdogs: is there any chance that, with her convicted and looking at major prison time, she starts singing for a reduced sentence?  

She’ll get a keep your mouth shut if you want protection ultimatum that will keep her quiet until they can kill her

[HenryJames 67116]

 

[tx 3 putt 78470]

5 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

and then: 

 

 

the photos don’t lie, start rounding them up

An ex president said Epstein was a lot of fun and liked young girls. Start with him 

 

i 100% support water boarding these pervs to get the truth out of them 

Edited December 30, 2021 by tx 3 putt

[Hagbard Celine 11160]

On 12/21/2021 at 8:46 AM, Lobo said:

You usually don't do that, at the advice of counsel, while the man you're testifying against for criminal purposes is alive.  But he's been dead for awhile, there should have been a feeding frenzy on his estate...even if a portion is frozen by law enforcement.  The queue for getting some his assets, once audited properly, should be a mile long.  And I don't hear a thing.

[HiggyBaby 2615]

[Neonmoon 38130]

Wow. BBC actually interviewed Dershowitz as an impartial analyst on the Ghislaine verdict. 

 

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13708]

On 12/21/2021 at 8:39 AM, Zeus said:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2021/12/07/evidence-jeffrey-epsteins-safe-went-missing-fbi-raid-court-hears/

Oopsie the FBI accidentally "went missing" all the blackmail videos of politicians and children

From your post, I thought you meant that the FBI took the evidence into custody and then they lost it.  Instead they discovered digital media during a raid but claimed they need a revised search warrant to confiscate the digital media. When they returned a day or two later, the CDs and hard-drives were removed. It was known that Epstein's lawyer entered the property during that time with bags/suitcases. Presumably he removed it.

Not a lawyer but wouldn't a search warrant normally allow you to take items found during that search? I suppose if the warrant didn't mention digital media, it would be off-limits. Still strange.

[WhatTheBuck 28904]

1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Wow. BBC actually interviewed Dershowitz as an impartial analyst on the Ghislaine verdict. 

 

 

We apologise for the fault in the interview. Those responsible have been sacked.

[Pato del Muerto 53334]

2 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

We apologise for the fault in the interview. Those responsible have been sacked.

Mind you, møøse bites kan be pretty nasti 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

From your post, I thought you meant that the FBI took the evidence into custody and then they lost it.  Instead they discovered digital media during a raid but claimed they need a revised search warrant to confiscate the digital media. When they returned a day or two later, the CDs and hard-drives were removed. It was known that Epstein's lawyer entered the property during that time with bags/suitcases. Presumably he removed it.

Not a lawyer but wouldn't a search warrant normally allow you to take items found during that search? I suppose if the warrant didn't mention digital media, it would be off-limits. Still strange.

This is called the plausible deniability defense or more commonly referred to as a "Whoopsie daisy".  The Epstein sex slave island incident is about the most grotesque thing I've ever read about this side of genocide. It would appear that it goes all the way to monarchies, heads of state, and untold numbers of captains of industry.

How a man who knows full well he's violating a minor could ever do such a thing is utterly beyond my comprehension. I bet many of these fuckers have daughters.  

[leaf 718]

9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

the photos don’t lie, start rounding them up

An ex president said Epstein was a lot of fun and liked young girls. Start with him 

 

i 100% support water boarding these pervs to get the truth out of them 

Which one?

 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

5 minutes ago, leaf said:

Which one?

 

Is this a trick question ?  All of them god dammit.  After pouring molten lead down their dick holes first though.

[TwiceHorn 31991]

15 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Lawdogs: is there any chance that, with her convicted and looking at major prison time, she starts singing for a reduced sentence?  

Yes, cooperation that leads to indictments or other tangible benefit to the gubmint can substantially reduce a sentence.  It's usually done in connection with a plea bargain, to avoid the "trial penalty."

But it can even be done post-sentencing. 

[WhatTheBuck 28904]

3 minutes ago, leaf said:

Which one?

 

Whichever one asserted that torture works. 

[Guest Lobo]

Trump only associated with Epstein because Epstein was providing with sound financial advice.  Even though there is no proof anywhere that anyone outside the Trump Organization ever handles Trump’s money.  

[Zeus 6754]

1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

From your post, I thought you meant that the FBI took the evidence into custody and then they lost it.  Instead they discovered digital media during a raid but claimed they need a revised search warrant to confiscate the digital media. When they returned a day or two later, the CDs and hard-drives were removed. It was known that Epstein's lawyer entered the property during that time with bags/suitcases. Presumably he removed it.

Not a lawyer but wouldn't a search warrant normally allow you to take items found during that search? I suppose if the warrant didn't mention digital media, it would be off-limits. Still strange.

So a search warrant on a child sex trafficker until they find hard drives with kiddie porn with black mail videos and they back off and let his lawyer remove the evidence.

Makes sense

The FBI is just running cover for whatever intelligence agency was running the blackmail operation on powerful people. 

I don't trust the alphabet agencies, they cover up for their own pedophiles

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/cia-employees-sex-crimes-children-secret-files-foia

[Zeus 6754]

58 minutes ago, leaf said:

Which one?

 

Robert Morrow is that you?

 

 

I agree with you though

why did the black book, flight logs, and hard drives all disappear or get "sealed" by the courts? 

 

 

[Gil Bang 26177]

1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

This is called the plausible deniability defense or more commonly referred to as a "Whoopsie daisy".  The Epstein sex slave island incident is about the most grotesque thing I've ever read about this side of genocide. It would appear that it goes all the way to monarchies, heads of state, and untold numbers of captains of industry.

How a man who knows full well he's violating a minor could ever do such a thing is utterly beyond my comprehension. I bet many of these fuckers have daughters.  

Dude, the only way  Trump can get a boner is by thinking about his daughter. 

[TwiceHorn 31991]

30 minutes ago, Zeus said:

So a search warrant on a child sex trafficker until they find hard drives with kiddie porn with black mail videos and they back off and let his lawyer remove the evidence.

Makes sense

The FBI is just running cover for whatever intelligence agency was running the blackmail operation on powerful people. 

I don't trust the alphabet agencies, they cover up for their own pedophiles

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/jasonleopold/cia-employees-sex-crimes-children-secret-files-foia

Yeah, they're just cops.  More sophisticated cops, granted, but that just means their corruptions are more sophisticated.

That a warrant like this wouldn't include digital media is mind-bottling.  

Also, if it was in a safe, how did they know what was in it?  If it was open, that would seem to be within the scope of a warrant, maybe even "plain sight."

Bizarro.

[CowboyFred 1162]

3 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, they're just cops.  More sophisticated cops, granted, but that just means their corruptions are more sophisticated.

That a warrant like this wouldn't include digital media is mind-bottling.  

Also, if it was in a safe, how did they know what was in it?  If it was open, that would seem to be within the scope of a warrant, maybe even "plain sight."

Bizarro.

1234

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

5 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Dude, the only way  Trump can get a boner is by thinking about his daughter. 

Yeah I've seen a lot of these kinds of posts.  It's such a seriously fucked up thing to do to your own flesh, and blood on so many countless levels (and pretty much no better to any non relative minor).  Is there some verified proof (which is always a double edged sword of what to believe) or just the typical trump hatred thing ?  I've seen the pics of her on his lap, and they didn't look good, but no less cringeworthy than the reactions young girls, and women seem to have to Mr. Bidens hair sniffing, and grabbing from behind.  

The whole completely fucked up incest issue aside, I'm pretty prudish about appropriate ages between a man, and a woman.  Having a 30 year old daughter sets a bar above 30, I wouldn't go below no matter how hot a woman is.

I mean she stuck around him into adulthood. Unless she's a freak, and digs that kind of thing, or so mentally damaged by the whole thing, I'd think she would have split years ago ?  Nothing surprises me today, and my comments are in no way meant to defend him at all. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, they're just cops.  More sophisticated cops, granted, but that just means their corruptions are more sophisticated.

That a warrant like this wouldn't include digital media is mind-bottling.  

Also, if it was in a safe, how did they know what was in it?  If it was open, that would seem to be within the scope of a warrant, maybe even "plain sight."

Bizarro.

Just how narrow of a scope regarding sex crimes would it have too be to exclude sex tapes ?  That would be something  that someone would have to know exists so they preemptively excluded that type of evidence I'd think ??

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

1 hour ago, leaf said:

Which one?

 

both...you dumb motherfucker.

throw your fucking bait somewhere else.  

[Red Five 41596]

8 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yeah I've seen a lot of these kinds of posts.  It's such a seriously fucked up thing to do to your own flesh, and blood on so many countless levels (and pretty much no better to any non relative minor).  Is there some verified proof (which is always a double edged sword of what to believe) or just the typical trump hatred thing ?  I've seen the pics of her on his lap, and they didn't look good, but no less cringeworthy than the reactions young girls, and women seem to have to Mr. Bidens hair sniffing, and grabbing from behind.  

The whole completely fucked up incest issue aside, I'm pretty prudish about appropriate ages between a man, and a woman.  Having a 30 year old daughter sets a bar above 30, I wouldn't go below no matter how hot a woman is.

I mean she stuck around him into adulthood. Unless she's a freak, and digs that kind of thing, or so mentally damaged by the whole thing, I'd think she would have split years ago ?  Nothing surprises me today, and my comments are in no way meant to defend him at all. 

Creepy pics aside, he's said out loud "if she wasn't my daughter I'd be dating her". 

[Gil Bang 26177]

9 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yeah I've seen a lot of these kinds of posts.  It's such a seriously fucked up thing to do to your own flesh, and blood on so many countless levels (and pretty much no better to any non relative minor).  Is there some verified proof (which is always a double edged sword of what to believe) or just the typical trump hatred thing ?  I've seen the pics of her on his lap, and they didn't look good, but no less cringeworthy than the reactions young girls, and women seem to have to Mr. Bidens hair sniffing, and grabbing from behind.  

The whole completely fucked up incest issue aside, I'm pretty prudish about appropriate ages between a man, and a woman.  Having a 30 year old daughter sets a bar above 30, I wouldn't go below no matter how hot a woman is.

I mean she stuck around him into adulthood. Unless she's a freak, and digs that kind of thing, or so mentally damaged by the whole thing, I'd think she would have split years ago ?  Nothing surprises me today, and my comments are in no way meant to defend him at all. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP7yf8-Lk80

[Captainant 28394]

7 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yeah I've seen a lot of these kinds of posts.  It's such a seriously fucked up thing to do to your own flesh, and blood on so many countless levels (and pretty much no better to any non relative minor).  Is there some verified proof (which is always a double edged sword of what to believe) or just the typical trump hatred thing ?  I've seen the pics of her on his lap, and they didn't look good, but no less cringeworthy than the reactions young girls, and women seem to have to Mr. Bidens hair sniffing, and grabbing from behind.  

The whole completely fucked up incest issue aside, I'm pretty prudish about appropriate ages between a man, and a woman.  Having a 30 year old daughter sets a bar above 30, I wouldn't go below no matter how hot a woman is.

I mean she stuck around him into adulthood. Unless she's a freak, and digs that kind of thing, or so mentally damaged by the whole thing, I'd think she would have split years ago ?  Nothing surprises me today, and my comments are in no way meant to defend him at all. 

Dude, where have you been? This sort of thing has been super well documented regarding trump <-> ivanka

According to the Independent: in 1997 when Ivanka was 16, he asked Miss Universe  “Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?” In an interview on the View, he said “If Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” On the Howard Stern show in 2004, DJT called Ivanka a "a piece of ass". In a 2013 interview on the Wendy Williams Show, when asked what he thought he had in common with Ivanka he said “Well, I was going to say sex, but I can’t relate that to her.” A couple years later in a 2015 Rolling Stone interview, he responded to praise for Ivanka with “Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father …”

 

Happy to provide and document any other examples you may like to have

[Guest Lobo]

Oh c'mon, Trump was just being folksy.  In a way that no other father on the planet would be.  

"He verbally molests his daughter in the media like we verbally molest daughters in the media."  

Plenty of inappropriate photos as well.  Most of the Manhattan real estate guys I know say that he is woefully inappropriate with her (this is back in the 2000s) when he brings her along to business dinners/events/fundraisers.  Obviously these guys booze it up and speak in vulgarities and sexual innuendo.  But even with Ivanka present, Trump would get graphic about other women he'd been with, in front of his daughter.  Reference her breasts, slap her ass, etc.  I don't really consider it rumor-mongering since these guys all heavily supported his campaign and have never said a peep to the media. 

I don't think he ever sexually molested her, to be clear.  But he has been grossly inappropriate verbally, suggestively, and some highly questionable hand usage on her person.  I know he can do wrong in y'all's eyes...but there's some lines that nobody should cross.  And he's crossed 'em plenty of times.  But if it didn't matter when she was younger, you certainly won't give a shit when she's in her 40s.

[Anastasis 23699]

29 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Yeah I've seen a lot of these kinds of posts.  It's such a seriously fucked up thing to do to your own flesh, and blood on so many countless levels (and pretty much no better to any non relative minor).  Is there some verified proof (which is always a double edged sword of what to believe) or just the typical trump hatred thing ?  I've seen the pics of her on his lap, and they didn't look good, but no less cringeworthy than the reactions young girls, and women seem to have to Mr. Bidens hair sniffing, and grabbing from behind.  

The whole completely fucked up incest issue aside, I'm pretty prudish about appropriate ages between a man, and a woman.  Having a 30 year old daughter sets a bar above 30, I wouldn't go below no matter how hot a woman is.

I mean she stuck around him into adulthood. Unless she's a freak, and digs that kind of thing, or so mentally damaged by the whole thing, I'd think she would have split years ago ?  Nothing surprises me today, and my comments are in no way meant to defend him at all. 

It's a fucked up form of narcissistic extreme self love. He want's to fuck Ivana because he seems her as his own projected self image. 

 

[Brisketexan 106629]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

It's a fucked up form of narcissistic extreme self love. He want's to fuck Ivana because he seems her as his own projected self image. 

 

That's always been my hypothesis.  He helped manufacture her into his perverse ideal (the blonde Barbie doll with big tits -- he bought her those boobs, he bought her other surgeries), because it reflected on him......and there's nobody Trump would like to sex more than himself, because he's the best ever at everything, including being sexy.

I don't think he's actually physically molested her.  It's just a case of perhaps the most extreme narcissist most any of us have ever had the chance (misfortune) to observe.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

It's a fucked up form of narcissistic extreme self love. He want's to fuck Ivana because he seems her as his own projected self image. 

 

Ewwww.

 

I had not seen any of the links posted by others, and his comments make my head spin more than a bit. 

Still begs the question why she’d hang around now unless she is completely damaged goods (mentally) now.

[Guest Lobo]

And because Tiffany won't do anal.  (I checked) 

Actually, Anastasis summed it up pretty damn well.  had she not grown up to be so tall and attractive, he probably would have found another way to awkwardly actualize his own narcissism.  You can also tell she possesses many traits he thinks he has, but really doesn't.  She is actually rather intelligent (I know folks on the left don't accept that) whereas he is actually of average intelligence, at best.  Although she is painfully incapable of self-awareness and interpersonal skills, what she does have in those arenas blows Trump's out of the water.  She does appear to be a good mother, Trump is an absolute dumpster fire of a parent in all areas of the term.  Even the most ardent Trump supporter never bothers to lie about this aspect of his personality.  She also seems to have a (albeit twisted) sense of humor, good taste (Trump just thinks whatever is flashiest and priciest must be the best), and knows how to control her tone/body language in a room---he just shouts and makes the same two hand gestures over and over again until his adulation tank is full.  In a way, I think he slightly resents her for doing more with the Trump legacy than he ever did.  But she's also another thing---very, very sly.  She's been playing him for over a decade and he doesn't see it.  The 4-D chessmaster himself doesn't understand he's not a King, he's at best-a Rook-for Ivanka and Jared.

[DigglerontheHoof 21516]

1 minute ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Ewwww.

 

I had not seen any of the links posted by others, and his comments make my head spin more than a bit. 

Still begs the question why she’d hang around now unless she is completely damaged goods (mentally) now.

I can't imagine growing up w/ Trump as a father could do anything but damage you mentally and emotionally.  The dude is the most narcissistic human on earth.  Zero hyperbole.  Growing up w/ that as your father has to be a fucking nightmare. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

That's always been my hypothesis.  He helped manufacture her into his perverse ideal (the blonde Barbie doll with big tits -- he bought her those boobs, he bought her other surgeries), because it reflected on him......and there's nobody Trump would like to sex more than himself, because he's the best ever at everything, including being sexy.

I don't think he's actually physically molested her.  It's just a case of perhaps the most extreme narcissist most any of us have ever had the chance (misfortune) to observe.

 I’d disagree with that concept unless he secretly wants to be a woman.  That type of behavior is what a narcissistic, self centered, man might project onto his sons in my opinion.  And I agree his comments about her are creepy AF, but they don’t make me think he molested her.

I still cringe at the reactions I see from the girls, and women Mr. Biden has been filmed putting hands on, and have no idea if he is a pervert/pedophile or just a guy who doesn’t have any idea what personal space is. 

As far as creating the Barbie doll I agree he’d do that cause it does reflect on him as a father (in his ducked up self centered mind) to have that beautiful daughter as sort of a status symbol in some way.

[Anastasis 23699]

8 minutes ago, Lobo said:

In a way, I think he slightly resents her for doing more with the Trump legacy than he ever did.  But she's also another thing---very, very sly.  She's been playing him for over a decade and he doesn't see it.  The 4-D chessmaster himself doesn't understand he's not a King, he's at best-a Rook-for Ivanka and Jared.

Lot of this. 

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

10 minutes ago, Lobo said:

And because Tiffany won't do anal.  (I checked) 

Actually, Anastasis summed it up pretty damn well.  had she not grown up to be so tall and attractive, he probably would have found another way to awkwardly actualize his own narcissism.  You can also tell she possesses many traits he thinks he has, but really doesn't.  She is actually rather intelligent (I know folks on the left don't accept that) whereas he is actually of average intelligence, at best.  Although she is painfully incapable of self-awareness and interpersonal skills, what she does have in those arenas blows Trump's out of the water.  She does appear to be a good mother, Trump is an absolute dumpster fire of a parent in all areas of the term.  Even the most ardent Trump supporter never bothers to lie about this aspect of his personality.  She also seems to have a (albeit twisted) sense of humor, good taste (Trump just thinks whatever is flashiest and priciest must be the best), and knows how to control her tone/body language in a room---he just shouts and makes the same two hand gestures over and over again until his adulation tank is full.  In a way, I think he slightly resents her for doing more with the Trump legacy than he ever did.  But she's also another thing---very, very sly.  She's been playing him for over a decade and he doesn't see it.  The 4-D chessmaster himself doesn't understand he's not a King, he's at best-a Rook-for Ivanka and Jared.

21st c. Borgias ??

[Anastasis 23699]

8 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

The dude is the most narcissistic human on earth.

Almost every single action of his can be explained by viewing through the prism of narcissistic personality disorder. It's really just that straight forward.  "How can I interpret this action within the context of the most pathological narcissism I can imagine?" 

[Brisketexan 106629]

8 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Lot of this. 

Yep.

5 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Almost every single action of his can be explained by viewing through the prism of narcissistic personality disorder. It's really just that straight forward.  "How can I interpret this action within the context of the most pathological narcissism I can imagine?" 

And yep.

It really is amazing how utterly predictable he was and is.  Ask "What would the most pathological narcissist in history do?", and the answer will tell you exactly what he will do in any given situation.

To tie it back to the general thread topic (sexual abuse/molestation by the powerful), while I think there's ample evidence that Trump has at the very least taken advantage of sexual power dynamics (walking in on teen beauty pageant contestants undressed), and has almost certainly committed sexual assault (I mean....he literally bragged about it), I don't think he's a pathological molester of young women like maybe some other members of the Epstein club were.  Trump's particularly psychosis (his incredible narcissism) really doesn't leave much room for other fucked up shit in his head - it is all-consuming and all-governing.

[hookemATL 12228]

Nah he fuckt ‘er

[closetohumping 17781]

[wildcat09 29559]

4 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Wow. BBC actually interviewed Dershowitz as an impartial analyst on the Ghislaine verdict. 

 

 

Probably related:

 

[jimmyjazz 46979]

Yeah, I'm not sure why anyone would conclude Trump never assaulted his daughter.  Just because such a thing would be repulsive to any normal father doesn't mean Trump would be bound by those ethical norms.  I'd bet good money he raped her, many times.

[TwiceHorn 31991]

54 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

I can't imagine growing up w/ Trump as a father could do anything but damage you mentally and emotionally.  The dude is the most narcissistic human on earth.  Zero hyperbole.  Growing up w/ that as your father has to be a fucking nightmare. 

Probably the best thing about having Trump as a father is how utterly disengaged he probably is as a parent.

[Longhorn_Fan68 34079]

21 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Probably the best thing about having Trump as a father is how utterly disengaged he probably is as a parent.

*if you're male

[RomaVicta 30501]

1 hour ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Still begs the question why she’d hang around now unless she is completely damaged goods (mentally) now.

Raises the question.

She stood before the GOP convention and all of America in 2016 and described the fairy tale scene of Daddy at a desk planning a new magnificent edifice while she played with an erector set on the floor nearby. 

Trump spent virtually no time with his children until they were teens. Ivanka invents the story from whole cloth. Why? My guess is that she knows playing to his vanity is the only way to access whatever gain can be had from being a Trump.

How did she learn that and why is her relationship with her father so much better than her brothers'? What distinguishes her?

I'd propose that give and take started happening when Ivanka hit an age that catches Donald's attention. How far they took it is a matter of conjecture. My last guess is that sexual payoff has either been granted (least likely) or been used as a tease for greatest benefit to both. As the child in the relationship, she can't really be blamed.

It's a sick dance to watch. Trump is maybe the most deplorable human I've ever witnessed operating with relative impunity. 

Trump encourages daughter to get implants. He apparently admired the surgeon's work.

 

I think Trump did use Epstein to fuck teenaged girls. I also think we all knew who he was thinking of while doing so. 

Edited December 30, 2021 by RomaVicta

[Guest Lobo]

FWIW, I don't see Trump banging underage girls.  The Miss Teen USA nude dressing room thing.  I think ogling attractive teenage girls was the distant secondary benefit of barging in unannounced like that.  The primary reason was stroking his ego, "These young ladies are gonna be so honored that I would come and see them before the competition.  I mean, they get to be in the presence of me...Donald J. Trump.  What a thrill for them."  

I don't think young girls could turn him on simply because they don't know how to play to an ego like that.  First of all, they're fucking terrified.  Second of all, they're just groomed to sexually please a man...to submit to his will and act aroused.  Trump needs way more than that to get sexually turned on.  He needs all kinds of ego-stroking, validation, adulation, etc.  Shit, Stormy Daniels couldn't even get him off and she is very sexual and gets unattractive men off...FOR A LIVING. 

Maybe he tried an underage girl at some point at Epstein's encouragement, but I doubt it was ever his "thing."  I think the groping and early sexualization of Ivanka was due to the narcisistic issues we discussed above.  

[Slacks 7027]

man, y'all seem to know a lot about this...

[DDD Dad 14572]

4 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

We apologise for the fault in the interview. Those responsible have been sacked.

What about the moose?

[MC Fresh Breath 4075]

So she’s guilty of trafficking.  How about the folks to whom she was delivering the children?

[Brisketexan 106629]

9 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

So she’s guilty of trafficking.  How about the folks to whom she was delivering the children?

Gosh, there's just no way of knowing who those folks are.  Nope, none at all.  What's that, Ghislaine just choked to death on an olive pit?  Man, what an unexpected tragedy.