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I love how some guy said Bill Clinton likes 'em young, which could mean any woman under 50, so he's clearly a pedo, but like 16 women accused Trump of rape, and he's facing almost a hundred felony cha

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Joe Bob wrote some article about how "dystopian" doesn't work for the Trump era because he's not a mastermind. It's a common right-wing trope: That fascism is the result of skilled genius; often tied to the right's admiration for Hitler and the Nazis' supposed skill, planning, and talent. ("But they're bad and evil, of course!")

A dystopian future is far more likely to be the result of stupidity and avarice than of an evil mastermind's plans.

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17 hours ago, Thetexashammer said:

You know that John Corzine stole a billion dollars, and he wasn't prosecuted? Did you now that under Obama, nobody, and I mean literally NOBODY, not a single financial executive went to jail. I don't dispute the Pubs are completely corrupt. But you're a god damn idiot if you don't understand the Dems are too.

 

When you say "nobody, nobody" and there's somebody, somebody, you're flat full-of-shit.  Kareem Serageldin is in jail.   

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1 hour ago, Hank Scorpio said:

One of my favorite things is when Republicans come and post articles from the most batshit insane websites as evidence to support their views. And the best ones always pretend that they are some high minded non partisan online journal that publishes articles entitled "What the #MeToo Movement Has in Common with Weimar Germany" or "What a Black Person Yelling at me on Twitter Means for the Future of Democracy". How do you fucking lunatics even find these websites? 

Yeah Ann Coulter is batshit. The article is also months old, she predicted this behaviour. 

Good work ignoring the ideas and attacking the source, takes a lot of courage. 

Anyway, y'all TDS people are now pushing the same news into the mainstream as Qboomers and Pizzagators. Awesome!

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How old was Melania when she was dating Trump?  Seems like she was born in the 70's.  

Wikipedia says 1998 when they met so there goes that theory:

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Trump has five children by three marriages, as well as nine grandchildren.[43][44] In 1977, Trump married Czech model Ivana Winklmayr (née Zelníčková), at Marble Collegiate Church in Manhattan, in a ceremony performed by the Reverend Norman Vincent Peale.[45][46][47][48] They had three children: Donald Jr. (b. 1977), Ivanka (b. 1981), and Eric (b. 1984). Ivana became a naturalized United States citizen in 1988.[49] The couple divorced in 1992, following Trump's affair with actress Marla Maples.[50] In October 1993, Maples gave birth to Trump's daughter, who was named Tiffany in honor of high-end retailer Tiffany & Company.[51] Maples and Trump were married two months later in December 1993 in Manhattan's Trump-owned (at that time) Plaza Hotel.[52][53] They divorced in 1999,[54] and Tiffany was raised by Marla in California.[55]

In 1998, Trump met Slovenian model Melania Knauss.[56] She became his third wife when they married in 2005 at Bethesda-by-the-Sea Episcopal Church in Palm Beach, Florida.[57] In 2006, she gained United States citizenship[58]and gave birth to a son, Barron.[59][60] Melania became First Lady when Trump took office as president in January 2017.[61]

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15 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Anyway, y'all TDS people are now pushing the same news into the mainstream as Qboomers and Pizzagators.

Negged for the absurd and dishonest equivalency. No news agency of substance ever reported that what was alleged to have taken place at the pizza parlor actually did take place. It became news because of the network of morons and mental cases who wanted to believe it so badly.

Epstein has pled guilty to crimes that make him a registered sex offender. There are court records and allegations made by law enforcement officials that he received absurdly light treatment for what amounts to raping underage girls.

You've gone off the deep end.

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19 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Yeah Ann Coulter is batshit. The article is also months old, she predicted this behaviour. 

Good work ignoring the ideas and attacking the source, takes a lot of courage. 

Anyway, y'all TDS people are now pushing the same news into the mainstream as Qboomers and Pizzagators. Awesome!

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Could you please post a video of the presser that prosecutors held to talk about your Pizzagate crimes?  Also, I'd like to see evidence that led to warrants and the FBI raids that went along with all the arrests.  kthxbai

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Notable contributors to TakiMag, according to Wikipedia:

Joe Bob Briggs

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Pat Buchanan

Jack Buckby

Theodore Dalrymple

Kevin DeAnna

John Derbyshire

Nicholas Burgess Farrell

Alexander Fiske-Harrison

Sean Gabb

Charles Glass

Jim Goad

David Gordon

Paul Gottfried

Kevin Gutzman

Leon Hadar

Jack Hunter

Charles C. Johnson

Bill Kauffman

E. Christian Kopff

Alex Kurtagic

Michelle Malkin

Eric Margolis

Robert Stacy McCain

Gavin McInnes

Andrew P. Napolitano

Justin Raimondo

Paul Ray Ramsey

Steve Sailer

R. J. Stove

Kathy Shaidle

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Tim Stanley

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Some good people on that list.  Justin Raimondo, RIP, being one of them.  The man behind antiwar.com 

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

When you say "nobody, nobody" and there's somebody, somebody, you're flat full-of-shit.  Kareem Serageldin is in jail.   

Haha. That's great. They got ONE GUY. His Wikipedia page literally describes him as "the only guy to go to jail" as a result of the financial crisis. OK, they got one guy. I guess that settles it, justice was served.

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8 hours ago, triplehorn said:

That fire picture was mis-attributed, i.e. fake.  It's what I get for trying to respond to GRH.

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The source sucks.  Sometimes I drift into not giving AF.  I'll take my lumps.  Yuri Andropov not withstanding, converging information about Epstein's acts and associations suggest this was about more than personal sexual gratification.  The extent of mob ties (Maxwell) and whether he had his places rigged for video kompromat may never get elaborated.

At about 5 am I glanced at that headline that half of Epstein's island was on fire in a blazing evidence dump. When I thought it was real I imagined the conspiracy theories that would  arise from that. I also thought that something like that might be the final tear in what was remaining of America's sphincter. Then I saw Clove Chronicle and kinda wanted to do a series of Three Stooges pokes and thumps and slaps across your skull. 

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Just now, Thetexashammer said:

Haha. That's great. They got ONE GUY. His Wikipedia page literally describes him as "the only guy to go to jail" as a result of the financial crisis. OK, they got one guy. I guess that settles it, justice was served.

I happen to share your rage that more guys didn't get ratfucked.  But dude, words have meanings.  

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9 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Haha. That's great. They got ONE GUY. His Wikipedia page literally describes him as "the only guy to go to jail" as a result of the financial crisis. OK, they got one guy. I guess that settles it, justice was served.

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3 hours ago, Jack said:

Do you honestly not see the difference between fucking porn stars and playmates vs fucking a 14 year old? 

Yes this is exactly how they had to spin it previously, he's giving information in exchange for a deal. He trafficked children for politicians to get dirt on em. Anyone who helped cover it up or participated should fry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7224853/Jeffrey-Epstein-indictment-unsealed-Billionaire-forfeit-40MILLION-mansion-ins-ex-case.html

At one point during the proceedings, Epstein's lawyer Reid Weingarten compared the victims who previously accused his client of sexual assault to sex workers.

'It is fair to say that a significant segment of the law enforcement community in Florida thought that what we had was simple prostitution,' stated Weingarten. 

 

All of it is summed up well here, the dude that originally sued for the records to be released is Thernovich.

https://www.cernovich.com/epstein/

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8 hours ago, triplehorn said:

- 3 unnamed employees took part in the scheduling and recruiting of minor girls.  Based on sketchy sourced reporting upthread, these are likely women (Maxwell, Kellen, and Marcincova)

- indictment describes it as a "vast network" which sounds like it relates to more than just Epstein's conduct.

- asset forfeiture 

- the trafficking charge: Epstein "did affect interstate and foreign commerce, did recruit, harbor entice, transport, provide, and obtain by any means a person..."  The bolded text jumps out because it is referenced but not elaborated with any detail in the indictment.  

It's just parroting the language of the statute and insuring a basis for federal jurisdiction (interstate and foreign commerce, both of which may be regulated by Congress).  Nothing to see there.

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58 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Yeah Ann Coulter is batshit. The article is also months old, she predicted this behaviour. 

Good work ignoring the ideas and attacking the source, takes a lot of courage. 

Anyway, y'all TDS people are now pushing the same news into the mainstream as Qboomers and Pizzagators. Awesome!

 

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All of it is summed up well here, the dude that originally sued for the records to be released is Thernovich.

https://www.cernovich.com/epstein/

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7 minutes ago, Zavala said:

Yes this is exactly how they had to spin it previously, he's giving information in exchange for a deal. He trafficked children for politicians to get dirt on em. Anyone who helped cover it up or participated should fry.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7224853/Jeffrey-Epstein-indictment-unsealed-Billionaire-forfeit-40MILLION-mansion-ins-ex-case.html

At one point during the proceedings, Epstein's lawyer Reid Weingarten compared the victims who previously accused his client of sexual assault to sex workers.

'It is fair to say that a significant segment of the law enforcement community in Florida thought that what we had was simple prostitution,' stated Weingarten. 

 

All of it is summed up well here, the dude that originally sued for the records to be released is Thernovich.

https://www.cernovich.com/epstein/

For the sake of argument, let's assume that's true...these girls were prostitutes.  The were still underage and he knew it.  What's your hot take on that part of the equation?

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Wonder if anyone brings this up to Mueller on the 17th?

What?  That you linked an article from Mike Cernovich as an actual argument and spelled his name with a keyboard lisp as Thernovich? Go fire a few rounds into your local Pizza Hut.

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3 hours ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

What’s the odds he ends us in some actual PMITA prison instead of something cushy?  I’d love him to be housed with a bunch of gang bangers. 

Slim.  I believe the feds have a prison especially for pedos, either Devens or Butner, where they are treated, and studied, and there is deliberately a large population of sex offenders to keep violence to a minimum.  Neither is a camp, so not that "cushy."

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3 minutes ago, woohorn said:

Aren't these both Federal District Courts? Do Federal Courts usu work like this where one District can charge despite plea in another or are there just going to be different crimes?

Different crimes.  The plea deal covered crimes he committed in South Florida, but he's now being charged with crimes he committed in New York.   And obviously crimes committed after the plea deal wouldn't be covered wherever they happened. 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I think that anybody involved with this shit should have a hot poker shoved up their ass until smokes comes out their ears.  I don't really care which side they come from. 

Funny you say that considering "hot poker" was Alan Dershowitz's underage sex ring code name. 

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23 minutes ago, woohorn said:

Aren't these both Federal District Courts? Do Federal Courts usu work like this where one District can charge despite plea in another or are there just going to be different crimes?

First, state and federal sex crimes almost always overlap.  Meaning, a defendant can be charged in either, or both jurisdictions with the same or a very similar crime.  The federal penalties are extraordinarily draconian, and for murky political reasons (see the backpage.com thread), they usually take the lead on such prosecutions and then the states don't bother.

So, Epstein was originally investigated by the feds and and subject to indictment in a federal district court.  Even a plea in that federal court would be subject to mandatory minimums and other harsh consequences.  Evidently, and this is unusual, but not unheard of, the feds agreed not to indict in federal court, but get Florida authorities to indict in a package deal (indictment, plea, and sentence) determined/negotiated in advance.  It was a super-sweetheart deal.

Thanks to the "dual sovereignty" rule, recently reaffirmed by the Supremes, his prior conviction by plea in Florida courts does not limit the federales from prosecuting the case in federal court on identical facts for the "same crime."  Although I believe there is more coming on this than used to be known.

Also, it should be noted that all that is required for federal criminal jurisdiction is the barest whiff of interstate commerce.  In Epstein's case, he apparently did this across state lines, but the fact that a car or aircraft used to transport was made and sold in interstate commerce would do.  That aspect of federal criminal law is farcical and should be undone, which means about 75% of federal criminal law gets undone.

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11 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

For the sake of argument, let's assume that's true...these girls were prostitutes.  The were still underage and he knew it.  What's your hot take on that part of the equation?

They can't be prostitutes. They are minors, kidnapped and abused by Epstein and others.

Either the visitors to the island knew or found out after, but he likely has video of powerful people with underage girls. Good dirt. I'm sure they will all just claim it's deep fakes. 

12 minutes ago, Chooky said:

What?  That you linked an article from Mike Cernovich as an actual argument and spelled his name with a keyboard lisp as Thernovich? Go fire a few rounds into your local Pizza Hut.

Yeah his lispy ass filed the law suit which caused the documents to be unsealed. Learn to read.

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8 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Different crimes.  The plea deal covered crimes he committed in South Florida, but he's now being charged with crimes he committed in New York.   And obviously crimes committed after the plea deal wouldn't be covered wherever they happened. 

Thread from earlier in how what happened in FLA can still be used against him 

 

 

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