2020 Democratic Debates Watch Thread

[Rougarou 594]

23 minutes ago, Pancho said:

You’re a trump republican so you tell me. What does Fox News tell you?

whoa whoa whoa. Those are fighting words, hoser! I'm on the Warren train and think Kamala is horrible. Don't most people?

Edited August 1, 2019 by Rougarou

[MNLonghornFUKM 8,817]

Not if it's Warren.  She's too skilled a debater.  She would absolutely destroy Trump.  He'd have to resort to his grade school bully name calling tactics almost immediately.  That will work fine for the base, who he could't lose regardless of what he did, but it would fire up the dems, independents, and moderate republicans to vote against him.

Warren is my choice by a mile.

I actually did a double thought about this after posting. Warren definitely has the iron jaw to go up against Trump..shed sling the insults back at him. Shes probably the one who would be the trump camps worst nightmare for next yr.

 

Not sure if shed win the election but itd be close.

 

[Js1 85,541]

18 minutes ago, Mojo Hand said:

Trump fascists getting in on the "Kamala is a cop!" act is hilarious.  Go kidnap some kids to stuff in cages. 

Lmao right? 

[Rougarou 594]

3 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I actually did a double thought about this after posting. Warren definitely has the iron jaw to go up against Trump..shed sling the insults back at him. Shes probably the one who would be the trump camps worst nightmare for next yr.

 

Not sure if shed win the election but itd be close.

 

Warren would win in a cake walk. Heck, Biden would win in a cake walk.

[EMAWesome 101]

12 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Did Biden just destroy de Blasio's career in the Democratic Party?

Stay in your own lane Joe, that's DeBlasio's job.

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

10 hours ago, B00M said:

If there was a winner tonight I thought it was Booker; Warren is probably the overall winner after 2 debates. My Johnson vote is legit up for grabs, so I'm hoping for a moderate. Biden was sloppy ("anyway") but relative to Trump...

My Johnson vote was a mistake and has already been converted. I wonder how many out there are like me and how many will stay the course?

[SimonBolivar 10,958]

4 minutes ago, EMAWesome said:

Stay in your own lane Joe, that's DeBlasio's job.

Yeah he has no shot, but there was a line by Biden that kind of flustered DeBlasio for a bit. 

 

DE BLASIO: You know what? We believe in redemption, Joe. We believe in redemption in this party.

BIDEN: Well, I tell you what, I hope you're part of it.

[Incredulity 11,683]

10 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Wait a goddamn second. You genuinely think that rural blue collar voters are going to swing the election?

Bwahaha !

Pass it on. You're stoned already. 

 

10 hours ago, David Dennison said:

Yeah, he probably thinks most of the working class is white and male.

Narrator: it's not. 

I'm sure you guys are right.

https://www.census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/publications/2018/demo/P20-582.pdf

 

73% of voters are white.

57% of white voters are non-degree

not a sizable portion of the electorate.  FUCK THEM!

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

You could see Kamala's struggle in 2nd debate coming from a mile away. Live by the attack, die by the attack. 

 

 

[Js1 85,541]

55 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

7 have qualified for next debate:

Joe Biden

Cory Booker

Pete Buttigieg

Kamala Harris

Beto O’Rourke

Bernie Sanders 

Elizabeth Warren

With Castro, Yang & Klobuchar meeting 1 of 2 requirements

They have until the 28th to hit 130,000 unique donors or 2% in four polls.

For the love of God, PLEASE let this one be less than 12-14 people.  6-7/stage instead of 10 will do wonders for the conversation.  Hell, keep it below 10 and have only one debate.  GIVE US THE TOP 4 ON ONE STAGE EARLIER THAN NOVEMBER

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

Kamala's National Press Secretary chimes in. Oof.

Not sure her campaign has the discipline to win this primary. 

 

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

They have until the 28th to hit 130,000 unique donors or 2% in four polls.

For the love of God, PLEASE let this one be less than 12-14 people.  6-7/stage instead of 10 will do wonders for the conversation.  Hell, keep it below 10 and have only one debate.  GIVE US THE TOP 4 ON ONE STAGE EARLIER THAN NOVEMBER

Think I read that if it's 10 or less, they will have one debate with all on stage. 

 

[Js1 85,541]

Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Think I read that if it's 10 or less, they will have one debate with all on stage. 

 

Please god. 

[Js1 85,541]

7 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

You could see Kamala's struggle in 2nd debate coming from a mile away. Live by the attack, die by the attack. 

 

 

"I'm going to be polite" backfired.

She should have called Tulsi an Assad supporter on stage, not after.  Don't hold back. 

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

On CNN post-debate, Kamala's response about Gabbard was literally, "well, I'm a top tier candidate and she's polling at less than 1% and loves Assad, so she doesn't matter."   That is a terrible and very off-putting response — yeah, Tulsi doesn't matter as a candidate, but that doesn't mean that her point about Kamala's record as a prosecutor doesn't matter.  Why is she attacking an irrelevant messager instead of giving a satisfying answer on the very revelant message? 

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

"I'm going to be polite" backfired.

She should have called Tulsi an Assad supporter on stage, not after.  Don't hold back. 

Why?  Nobody is going to vote for Tulsi.  She doesn't need to take Tulsi down.  She needs to shore herself up against a very potent attack. 

[Pancho 44,967]

20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They have until the 28th to hit 130,000 unique donors or 2% in four polls.

For the love of God, PLEASE let this one be less than 12-14 people.  6-7/stage instead of 10 will do wonders for the conversation.  Hell, keep it below 10 and have only one debate.  GIVE US THE TOP 4 ON ONE STAGE EARLIER THAN NOVEMBER

DNC, hire this man 

[NowThis 931]

only 8 debates remain

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

For 3rd debate,  I'd actually prefer if over 10 candidates made it.

If 12 qualify, then they split the debate into 2 nights with 6 candidates on stage. It would be annoying to have top tier candidates split up again, but at least we'd have an actual debate allowing these candidates to speak longer and in more detail about issues.

[Js1 85,541]

3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

For 3rd debate,  I'd actually prefer if over 10 candidates made it.

If 12 qualify, then they split the debate into 2 nights with 6 candidates on stage. It would be annoying to have top tier candidates split up again, but at least we'd have an actual debate allowing these candidates to speak longer and in more detail about issues.

Same.  10 is ideal, but 6 and 6 is also good.  Maybe intentionally switch it up too?  I.e., we had Joe/Kamala and Liz/Bernie in July so we will do Joe/Liz and Kamala/Bernie and then draw for the other candidates.  

[Jack 51]

29 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Kamala's National Press Secretary chimes in. Oof.

Not sure her campaign has the discipline to win this primary. 

 

This is the reason we have a primary.  If there are issues Harris needs to address, it needs to be done now.  The fact they are essentially ignoring it and point the finger at Russian Bots is not reassuring.  People are so tired of the Russia stuff at this point, their eyes glaze over and ignore the article entirely.  Pushing stuff like this makes them look crazy.

[Pancho 44,967]

19 minutes ago, Jack said:

This is the reason we have a primary.  If there are issues Harris needs to address, it needs to be done now.  The fact they are essentially ignoring it and point the finger at Russian Bots is not reassuring.  People are so tired of the Russia stuff at this point, their eyes glaze over and ignore the article entirely.  Pushing stuff like this makes them look crazy.

You do realize it can be both right?

 

She’s getting destroyed online by Russian bots and MAGmA supporters.  But she also needs to address major issues in the campaign and I’ve said that from day 1.

tulsi is a Russian plant a la stein and that should be acknowledged, but it should also be told to Harris that her campaign needs to get stronger if she is to have a shot

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

tulsi is a Russian plant a la stein and that should be acknowledged

Come on. 

 

 

[David Dennison 18,945]

26 minutes ago, Jack said:

This is the reason we have a primary.  If there are issues Harris needs to address, it needs to be done now.  The fact they are essentially ignoring it and point the finger at Russian Bots is not reassuring.  People are so tired of the Russia stuff at this point, their eyes glaze over and ignore the article entirely.  Pushing stuff like this makes them look crazy.

That doesn't mean it isn't happening.

[Js1 85,541]

4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Come on. 

 

 

Russian plant?

No.

Heavily backed by Russian twitter bots, Russia Today and a very vocal group of MAGAtards?

Yeah.  You in the wrong primary, girlfriend. 

[Hank Scorpio 17,729]

The next debate should be just Bernie on stage yelling at Jake Tapper for 45 minutes. 

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Russian plant?

No.

Heavily backed by Russian twitter bots, Russia Today and a very vocal group of MAGAtards?

Yeah.  You in the wrong primary, girlfriend. 

And those Russian bots have elevated her to what, between 0-2% in any poll? 

 

[Js1 85,541]

Just now, Hank Scorpio said:

The next debate should be just Bernie on stage yelling at Jake Tapper for 45 minutes. 

Would watch. 

[Pancho 44,967]

11 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Come on. 

 

 

I calls em like I sees em

[Fozzz 152]

8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Russian plant?

No.

Heavily backed by Russian twitter bots, Russia Today and a very vocal group of MAGAtards?

Yeah.  You in the wrong primary, girlfriend. 

lol out comes the tinfoil 

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

1 minute ago, Pancho said:

I calls em like I sees em

I think it's pretty easy to state your case that Tulsi shouldn't be taken seriously without the "Russian agent" nonsense. 

 

[Fozzz 152]

17 minutes ago, Pancho said:

You do realize it can be both right?

 

She’s getting destroyed online by Russian bots and MAGmA supporters.  But she also needs to address major issues in the campaign and I’ve said that from day 1.

tulsi is a Russian plant a la stein and that should be acknowledged, but it should also be told to Harris that her campaign needs to get stronger if she is to have a shot

if the only way you can defend your candidate is by posting crazy shit like this, maybe you should rethink your support for that candidate.  

[Red Five 40,881]

Time to coalesce around Warren now dems. At this point I don't even know who my #2 is. Pete I suppose. Go ahead and throw him on the ticket too and lets get to work. 

[Pancho 44,967]

2 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

if the only way you can defend your candidate is by posting crazy shit like this, maybe you should rethink your support for that candidate.  

I never said Harris was my candidate lol

[Fozzz 152]

I've been saying for months that Tulsi was going to fuck shit up in the debates and probably curb stomp someone, and I feel vindicated after last night.  It's not that she's smarter than the other candidates or anything, but she's direct and will go places others cannot.  I love how she just batted away that dumbass question they tried to give her and just went straight for the jugular.  

[Hank Kingsley 21,034]

I'm sure it's fun to be on the debate stage when you have nothing to lose.  Yang took advantage as well. 

 

 

[Fozzz 152]

She also called out our country's support of al qaeda.  I mean, wow.  Stuff like that is simply unspeakable.  

[Todd Gack 432]

14 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

She also called out our country's support of al qaeda.  I mean, wow.  Stuff like that is simply unspeakable.  

I think she focused on the Trump administration's support of al-qaeda, but yeah that was good stuff.  Haven't heard her address the bloat/corruption of the MIC... not sure if anyone touched on it last night. 

[David Dennison 18,945]

42 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

I've been saying for months that Tulsi was going to fuck shit up in the debates and probably curb stomp someone, and I feel vindicated after last night.  It's not that she's smarter than the other candidates or anything, but she's direct and will go places others cannot.  I love how she just batted away that dumbass question they tried to give her and just went straight for the jugular.  

No one is going to remember a thing about last night.

[David Dennison 18,945]

45 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Time to coalesce around Warren now dems. At this point I don't even know who my #2 is. Pete I suppose. Go ahead and throw him on the ticket too and lets get to work. 

Warren

Bernie

That's it for me. Everyone else can drop out.

[American Swindle 102]

NSIAP:

 

[American Swindle 102]

3 minutes ago, American Swindle said:

NSIAP:

 

 

[immortal13 4,059]

3 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I actually did a double thought about this after posting. Warren definitely has the iron jaw to go up against Trump..

 

Strong, high cheekbones, too..

 

[Zavala 1,384]

 

[bad_teammate 13,224]

2 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

The next debate should be just Bernie on stage yelling at Jake Tapper for 45 minutes. 

Unironically, yes.

We need to take on the professional media class to get anything done in this country. Millionaires paid by billionaires.

[RomaVicta 29,988]

15 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

Unironically, yes.

We need to take on the professional media class to get anything done in this country. Millionaires paid by billionaires.

Coming up we'll have a Democratic strategist, a Republican strategist, a professor, and two of our reporters discuss this story about the professional media class. If we find a racial angle, we'll make one of the reporters and maybe the professor persons of color.

A reminder that right after this show ends, there'll be another show just like it with a different panel saying the same things.

Now this message from Herpelate, the medicine that helps you find happiness with your golden retriever and grandchildren even if you're having a herpes flare-up.

Edited August 1, 2019 by RomaVicta

[DixonHur 11,364]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Warren

Bernie

That's it for me. Everyone else can drop out.

Ideas are great, but one of the things I look for in a candidate is whether or not they seem Presidential.  Bernie doesn't fit the bill for me...Warren does. 

To me, Bernie is the left's version of Ron Paul.

 

[Bobby_Batronic 1,994]

1 minute ago, DixonHur said:

o me, Bernie is the left's version of Ron Paul.

Aptly said.

[hpslugga 4,062]

2 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Ideas are great, but one of the things I look for in a candidate is whether or not they seem Presidential.  Bernie doesn't fit the bill for me...Warren does. 

To me, Bernie is the left's version of Ron Paul.

 

What does this even mean?

[DixonHur 11,364]

6 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

What does this even mean?

I'm sure it's different for everyone, but for me, it's basically what I look for in any leader:

1.  Calm under pressure
2.  A quiet intelligence...i.e. you can tell they are smart, without them going around saying how smart they are.
3. Pensive and introspective
4. Ability to think on their feet
5. Takes responsibility instead of blaming other
6. Would command the respect of other leaders

That's just off the top of my head.  Basically, like Justice Stewart said regarding hardcore porn..."I know it when I see it"