2020 Democratic Debates Watch Thread

[bad_teammate 13,519]

2 minutes ago, suddenly shaggy said:

Best line of the night and it isn't remotely close. 

The professional media class is DESPERATE to try and make garbage candidates like Klobuchar and Harris the center of attention.

[bad_teammate 13,519]

I would say that Warren killed Delaney, but what is dead may never die

[David Dennison 19,536]

3 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Debates like this do nothing to win over Midwest working class voters. 

 

White midwest working class voters maybe. But they don't need to. They need to convince more Midwest minorities to vote.

[Js1 87,181]

4 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Debates like this do nothing to win over Midwest working class voters. 

 

Concern is noted. You and dbeasy can shut the fuck up now. 

[SubliminalHorn 7,009]

4 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Debates like this do nothing to win over Midwest working class voters. 

 

Not enough Jesus talk?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Yes, Trump will win over Midwest as more plants close under his watch. 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

2 minutes ago, bad_teammate said:

I would say that Warren killed Delaney, but what is dead may never die

But rises again, with less charisma and no blinking. 

[Js1 87,181]

3 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

Not enough Jesus talk?

We want you to keep your healthcare or get even better healthcare 

WHY WONT THEY TALK TO MIDWEST VOTERS?!?!? 

[SubliminalHorn 7,009]

9 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Debates like this do nothing to win over Midwest working class voters. 

Dp

Edited July 31, 2019 by SubliminalHorn

[SimonBolivar 11,064]

Working class voters by and large aren't watching a debate in July the year before the election.

[6th Street 6,689]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Yes, Trump will win over Midwest as more plants close under his watch. 

Instead of promising free healthcare and reparations, just tell those Midwest hicks that you're bringing manufacturing jobs back. Guaranteed win

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

25 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

She’s a troll candidate.  Don’t fall for it.  She’s insanely unfit for the presidency 

Dude.   Obviously.   Just pointing out she had several terrific answers.   She was actually a net positive to have on the stage tonight.

[suddenly shaggy 929]

Second best line of the night. The Democrats need to stop worrying about what Fox and the GOP will say. Do what you think is right and defend it. 

 

[NowThis 931]

12 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

Debates like this do nothing to win over Midwest working class voters. 

 

Ryan comes across as the Midwest champ. He had a strong night. 

[Celery Man 21,097]

23 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I'd rather see a bit more charisma in my VP. That's about all they're good for.

i think he has an enormous capacity to be charismatic.  more than anyone else on the stage.  he's in over his head and has seemed shook and he doesn't have the same kind of substance as many of the others.  i think he'd be back in his element cheerleading for someone else who is setting the agenda and taking the heat.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Claire McSuckal on MSNBC proving why she sucks ass. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

 

[David Dennison 19,536]

2 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Claire McSuckal on MSNBC proving why she sucks ass. 

The poll numbers they showed before she made her points should worry lefty Democrats.

[6th Street 6,689]

11 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

White midwest working class voters maybe. But they don't need to. They need to convince more Midwest minorities to vote.

There is no Barack Obama up there to fire up Midwest minorities unfortunately. Best way to win those Rust Belt states is to win over the mouthbreathers

 

[NowThis 931]

28 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Beto is the perfect VP candidate for anyone really.  Just because of Texas.

Castro , he's smarter and a real Latino

 

Dems are not going to win Texas, best to pick Pete or even this Ohio Ryan - for the Midwest. 

Edited July 31, 2019 by NowThis

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

The poll numbers they showed before she made her points should worry lefty Democrats.

Lulz

[David Dennison 19,536]

1 minute ago, 6th Street said:

There is no Barack Obama up there to fire up Midwest minorities unfortunately. Best way to win those Rust Belt states is to win over the mouthbreathers

 

I think Donald Trump is firing up midwest minorities just fine. 

[David Dennison 19,536]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Lulz

Those are some unpopular positions.

[Dbeasy 15,593]

Concern is noted. You and dbeasy can shut the fuck up now. 

Screw you. I don’t think charging after all these far left policies all at once is the way to win an election, and by the way some of the folks on msnbc just said the same thing.

[bad_teammate 13,519]

John Delaney has 29,000 followers on Twitter

A few years ago I had a dumb joking account that had 8,000 followers for some reason.

He has spent probably $15M of his own money on this race so far

His RCP poll average is 0.7

[bad_teammate 13,519]

Just now, Dbeasy said:

Screw you. I don’t think charging after all these far left policies all at once is the way to win an election, and by the way some of the folks on msnbc just said the same thing.

What do you think that means?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Those are some unpopular positions.

Only because people need to be sold before they become popular.  It’s easy to make a position unpopular when people only hear one side.  

Public opinion on Obamacare before/after out front should have...

STOP READING INTO BULLSHIT MANUFACTURED POLLS 

Edited July 31, 2019 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Js1 87,181]

Oh yes I always forget that Dems are required to run and lose on “popular” policies while Republicans win by advocating *checks notes* cutting services, repealing healthcare, building a wall, deportation forces and forcing Jesus down our throats. 

Very mainstream ideas. Totally legit.  Run on your god damn ideas and sell them instead. 

Edited July 31, 2019 by Js1

[David Dennison 19,536]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Only because people need to be sold before they become popular.  It’s easy to make a position unpopular when people only hear one side.  

Public opinion on Obamacare before/after out front should have...

STOP READING INTO BULLSHIT MANUFACTURED POLLS 

Still need 60 votes.

Dang.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Still need 60 votes.

Dang.

Not really 

[David Dennison 19,536]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Not really 

Oh? Do tell.

[gmr548 16,697]

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Oh yes I always forget that Dems are required to run and lose on “popular” policies while Republicans win by advocating *checks notes* cutting services, repealing healthcare, building a wall, deportation forces and forcing Jesus down our throats. 

Very mainstream ideas. Totally legit.  Run on your god damn ideas and sell them instead. 

Ding ding ding.

The numbers are clear as day. The Democratic platform is far more popular with the American public. They need to stop worrying about a small bloc of voters that probably isn't voting for them anyway and worry about finding the true silent majority - those that identify with their platform but don't vote.

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

My performance rankings for the night:

1) As a supporter, I couldn't be happier with Warren's performance.   A+ night for her.  Hit all the right notes.  

2) Pete was great, with the exception of his answer to the race question, which sounded pretty canned.   He's dead in the water for pres because he won't improve with POC, but he'd be a great VP. 

3) Beto had a good night overall and is in the VP mix. 

4) Sanders had some really good moments but was under the most fire and took some damage.  I think he took actually some hits for Warren. 

5) Marianne Williamson is a joke of a candidate and going nowhere, but she actually had a great performance.   Some batshit crazy moments, but several fantastic moments too. 

Everyone else sucked ass.   Klobuchar is boring as fuck and will give away the store to Republicans.  Delaney actually is a Republican, fuck him.  Hickenlooper seems like a nice guy, that's about it.   Bullock and Ryan offer literally nothing, and Trump would destroy their WWC voter act. 

 

[bad_teammate 13,519]

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Still need 60 votes.

Dang.

*pokes u with a cattle prod*

"BACK TO THE PELOSI THREAD! GIT! GIT!"

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Oh? Do tell.

With the way Trump is setting egregious precedents by circumventing Congress left and right, almost anything is possible.

The real vote is what it would take to overturn an executive branch policy. 

The abuse of power by the Trump administration  is making many things, previously unimaginable, possible for a Democratic Administration.

You reap what you sow Republicans.

[David Dennison 19,536]

Just now, bad_teammate said:

*pokes u with a cattle prod*

"BACK TO THE PELOSI THREAD! GIT! GIT!"

I only say 60 because if the Democrats ever take back the Senate they would be too timid to get rid of the filibuster once and for all.

 

[tantric superman 4,668]

13 minutes ago, NowThis said:

Castro , he's smarter and a real Latino

And just to be clear, doesn't seem to be one of the rapey ones.

[bad_teammate 13,519]

Tonight is a perfect illustration of why Bernie and Liz both need to be running and stay in. Sanders drew tons of fire from the others and from the moderators, and Warren was more free to roam and shine.

If she was the only one up there for single-payer, it wouldn't go as well.

Comradeship.

[David Dennison 19,536]

Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

With the way Trump is setting egregious precedents by circumventing Congress left and right, almost anything is possible.

The real vote is what it would take to overturn an executive branch policy. 

The abuse of power by the Trump administration  is making many things, previously unimaginable, possible for a Democratic Administration.

You reap what you sow Republicans.

Not Medicare for All, though. That requires a statute no matter what The Donald does.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Not Medicare for All, though. That requires a statute no matter what The Donald does.

There is no reason not to swing for the fences on healthcare during the campaign unless you’re a spineless cunt bitch. 

[bad_teammate 13,519]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I only say 60 because if the Democrats ever take back the Senate they would be too timid to get rid of the filibuster once and for all.

 

I SAID GIT!

[Mojo Hand 4,580]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Tonight is a perfect illustration of why Bernie and Liz both need to be running and stay in. Sanders drew tons of fire from the others and from the moderators, and Warren was more free to roam and shine.

If she was the only one up there for single-payer, it wouldn't go as well.

Comradeship.

That's exactly how I saw it.  I felt a little bad for him, because I think he helped her poll numbers more than his own while doing great work. But she was great and maximized her opportunities. 

It's funny how the media tried to make tonight about Warren vs. Sanders in advance, but it was more them versus the others. 

[David Dennison 19,536]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

I SAID GIT!

Needs to go, bruh. Archaic.

[Js1 87,181]

Just now, Mojo Hand said:

That's exactly how I saw it.  I felt a little bad for him, because I think he helped her poll numbers more than his own while doing great work. But she was great and maximized her opportunities. 

It's funny how the media tried to make tonight about Warren vs. Sanders in advance, but it was more them versus the others. 

They want 1 and 2 in each round to fight. Didn’t get it tonight. They’ll get more than enough tomorrow. 

[Anastasis 23,717]

I love her. 

[NowThis 931]

Williamson is spot on with her dissection of Trump's psychology.  She dips into the human element of our politics, our deepest emotions and fears, human motivation & she nails it. 

I hope she gets a show on MSNBC 

Edited July 31, 2019 by NowThis

[bad_teammate 13,519]

If you don't donate to Liz tonight you're gay.

Sorry, fellas, I don't make the rules.

 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Lol Orca

[sachick 1,189]

Best line of the night and it isn't remotely close. 
 

Her facial expression and slight eye roll at the end is the best part.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,367]

Great photo