2020 Democratic Debates Watch Thread

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Medicare for All is what's going to happen. It's going to be what people 65 and older have now. There is a place for private insurance companies in the current Medicare system.

This isn't hard.

Because of relatively recent godawful right-wing reforms that waste billions of taxpayer dollars every year.

Liberals are a cancer

[Loch Ness Monster 3,533]

Yang is right. Why are democrats talking about illegal immigrants so much.

Thats for Republicans to scare people

[Incredulity 11,541]

My father immigrated to the United States, I want to touch Tulsi’s heinie.

[Neonmoon 38,127]

Where do the 100K immigrants wait for their civil court date?

[David Dennison 18,646]

1 minute ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

That is absolutely the truth.  There are other ways to control costs and the government can be involved in leading the way.  I love how Harris is so upset at Big Pharma and Insurance making profit off of sick people but (no offense intended for this next part) but there are plenty of hospital officials and doctors making a shit ton off of sick people but no one on this stage has the balls to call that out.

Of course they won't be going away. They will have Medicare Advantage plans and supplemental plans.

Employer provided health care is what's going away.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,552]

1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

Medicare for All is what's going to happen. It's going to be what people 65 and older have now. There is a place for private insurance companies in the current Medicare system.

This isn't hard.

Agree with you on that but then who would they blame the rising costs of health care on.  Get rid of the private insurers and have the federal government take it over as long as when my kid breaks his arm and I take him to the ER I don’t have to $5K for a X-ray.  The costs will still be there. 

[SimonBolivar 10,910]

Did Inslee have a stroke?

Edited August 1, 2019 by SimonBolivar

[Underdog 28,443]

2 minutes ago, AustinHorn said:

Tulsi’s Sunscreen ... 

That face is rough looking, could grate diamonds with it. 

[Incredulity 11,541]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

Did Inslee have a stroke?

I hope so, that guy stinks on ice

[Neonmoon 38,127]

4 minutes ago, AustinHorn said:

Tulsi’s Sunscreen ... 

 

1 minute ago, Underdog said:

That face is rough looking, could grate diamonds with it. 

You watch your mouth 

[Dbeasy 14,961]

Of course they won't be going away. They will have Medicare Advantage plans and supplemental plans.
Employer provided health care is what's going away.

Does the insurance industry get a lot smaller?

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Tulsi is shiny. She needs someone to clean her off.

I volunteer as tribute

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

I love DeBlasio trolling 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

Big game Bill is on fire

[Anastasis 23,390]

Every time tulsi says something the other candidates pivot to an attack on Biden.  

[LonghornJudas 1,090]

Shithole. Yay!

[Larry T. Spider 1,740]

Lol booker slipped shithole in there

[Anastasis 23,390]

Biden getting worked. 

[leaf 681]

Shut up Deblasio Blasio

[AustinHorn 57]

Booker’s “irked” 

[SimonBolivar 10,910]

I don't think Biden was expecting these attacks before the last debate.

[Neonmoon 38,127]

Biden is going down in flames 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

Hahah Booker snuck in a shithole blast. 

[Larry T. Spider 1,740]

Go away gillibrand

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,552]

Just now, Dbeasy said:

Does the insurance industry get a lot smaller?

Not necessarily as Medicare Advantage would take care of that.  The problem would be that 70% of the hospitals would go out of business in 6 months if they had to accept Medicare or Medicare Advantage rates vs the group/commercial payments they get that subsidizes the Medicaid and Medicare rates they receive.

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

Umm I forgot I was up here 

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Just now, Larry T. Spider said:

Go away every single candidate on this stage

fixed

[leaf 681]

Ohhhhh...... He said shit

[bolverk 29,394]

Just now, Larry T. Spider said:

Go away gillibrand

Um...

[SimonBolivar 10,910]

Just now, Larry T. Spider said:

Go away gillibrand

For the love of god this. She's going to want to speak to CNN's manager after this with the lack of facetime she's getting.

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Medicare Advantage didn't really become a major factor until the right-wing administrations of the late 80s. Stop fucking acting like it's a natural and vital part of Medicare.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,356]

 

[Dbeasy 14,961]

Status Update

 

1. Kamela took some punches and is weakened slightly.

 

2. Joe is moving sideways looking old.

 

3. Castro reasonably strong again

 

4. Yang way better than last time.

 

5. Verónica not bad.

 

6. Bennet is done

 

7. Booker has had the best improvement so far, even though he hasn’t said much. That’s how you win by the way.

 

8. De Blasio was a joke last time but actually is a little better this time.

 

9. Inslee is still irrelevant.

 

10. Tulsi not bad.

[AbeFroman 2,110]

We may see healthcare in action shortly when Biden keels over on the stage.

[suddenly shaggy 929]

1 minute ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Not necessarily as Medicare Advantage would take care of that.  The problem would be that 70% of the hospitals would go out of business in 6 months if they had to accept Medicare or Medicare Advantage rates vs the group/commercial payments they get that subsidizes the Medicaid and Medicare rates they receive.

They'd also stop having uninsured and underinsured patients where the hospital winds up eating the bill. That's a significant chunk of change for many hospitals. 

[Doc Sam Beckett 5,782]

How would a Warren/Harris ticket do? 

[Js1 85,085]

1 minute ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

How would a Warren/Harris ticket do? 

538 fucking electoral votes! 

Edited August 1, 2019 by Js1

[David Dennison 18,646]

4 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Not necessarily as Medicare Advantage would take care of that.  The problem would be that 70% of the hospitals would go out of business in 6 months if they had to accept Medicare or Medicare Advantage rates vs the group/commercial payments they get that subsidizes the Medicaid and Medicare rates they receive.

Of course they say that now. 

Most of them will figure it out or get gobbled up by bigger hospitals.

[SimonBolivar 10,910]

Biden is going to get bitchslapped by Trump in the real debates. 

[Anastasis 23,390]

1 minute ago, bad_teammate said:

Medicare Advantage didn't really become a major factor until the right-wing administrations of the late 80s. Stop fucking acting like it's a natural and vital part of Medicare.

In a good number of states CA, NY and states in the midwest as much as 40+% of Medicare beneficiaries are in MAPD. Political reality is that you are not going to shed MAPD.  

[Dbeasy 14,961]

Well it’s over. Biden just named Booker future president.

[Celery Man 20,881]

awesome Biden.  Real smooth.  Fuckin Symone is just real happy with her choices right now i bet.

[bolverk 29,394]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Of course they say that now. 

Most of them will figure it out or get gobbled up by bigger hospitals.

One problem rarely discussed is the issues facing rural hospitals which are closing at a very rapid rate. I'm not sure that bigger private hospitals are willing to gobble them up to help provide adequate care out in the countryside.

[Anastasis 23,390]

6 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Not necessarily as Medicare Advantage would take care of that.  The problem would be that 70% of the hospitals would go out of business in 6 months if they had to accept Medicare or Medicare Advantage rates vs the group/commercial payments they get that subsidizes the Medicaid and Medicare rates they receive.

After Pharma, Hospitals are the biggest crooks in the healthcare industry.  Real talk. 

[NowThis 931]

Force 10 from Nowhere 

[suddenly shaggy 929]

Biden just called Booker the president. Must be mixing him up with Obama. 

[bad_teammate 13,132]

Just now, Anastasis said:

In a good number of states CA, NY and states in the midwest as much as 40+% of Medicare beneficiaries are in MAPD. Political reality is that you are not going to shed MAPD.  

The benefits can't be shed, but the program administering it can (and will) be changed and virtually no one will give a fuck.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,552]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

In a good number of states CA, NY and states in the midwest as much as 40+% of Medicare beneficiaries are in MAPD. Political reality is that you are not going to shed MAPD.  

Whether good or bad it is also the largest growing segment of Medicare beneficiaries.  It’s not going anywhere.

[SimonBolivar 10,910]

Biden cant even make a coherent sentence. His advisers have good retorts he just can't get it out correctly.

[UpperWestside 6,126]

Biden is such a fucking clownshow. Just head to the retirement home and be done with it.