Just another reason the Statesman sucks

[TXLNGHRN10 341]

The dumb asses are running a story on their site, on the home page with a picture of a drowned 2 year old
Sensationalized media sucks

I realize it's a tragic story, it's a tragic situation, but you don't need to run 2 different pics of dead bodies Story

[SA-KC_Horn 1296]

That's a shitty thing to do to generate website traffic. 

[Ghost of LL 15605]

Recent history is replete with instances of dead or suffering children changing public perception.  Just a couple of instances:

 

 

 

The image itself has the power to change perceptions.  It is what is framing a debate today.  It is newsworthy.  And the Statesman would have done its readers a disservice had it opted not to publish it.

Edited June 26, 2019 by Ghost of LL

[Armin Tamzarian 58]

2 hours ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

The dumb asses are running a story on their site, on the home page with a picture of a drowned 2 year old
Sensationalized media sucks

I realize it's a tragic story, it's a tragic situation, but you don't need to run 2 different pics of dead bodies Story

It needs to be seen. Everywhere.

In conclusion, fuck you.

[hornian 5251]

2 hours ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

The dumb asses are running a story on their site, on the home page with a picture of a drowned 2 year old
Sensationalized media sucks

I realize it's a tragic story, it's a tragic situation, but you don't need to run 2 different pics of dead bodies Story

Yeah, if you don’t want to see that, maybe advocate for your representative government to change the laws that cause those types of scenarios. It’s heartbreaking, but it’s newsworthy. 

[hayden_horn 11367]

yeah, the statesman may suck, but every major global media outlet is running that picture. it popped up on cnn, provoking me to change the channel last night because i'd rather my sons not see stuff like that. 

but it is poignant, and it is important for us to see and confront what's happening ON OUR BORDER. that's newsworthy. it's less than 250 miles away, for chrissakes.

[Asithappens 974]

2 hours ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

The dumb asses are running a story on their site, on the home page with a picture of a drowned 2 year old
Sensationalized media sucks

I realize it's a tragic story, it's a tragic situation, but you don't need to run 2 different pics of dead bodies Story

Ok, I'll bite.

Why don't you "need" to run 2 different pics?

What's really got you up in arms? It sure isn't this.

[TXLNGHRN10 341]

7 minutes ago, Asithappens said:

Ok, I'll bite.

Why don't you "need" to run 2 different pics?

What's really got you up in arms? It sure isn't this.

How many pictures of a dead toddler do you need to see? I don't think there is a need to show one, much less two. 
Are they going to show pictures of every child that dies tragically ?

[Pasken 1309]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

Recent history is replete with instances of dead or suffering children changing public perception.  Just a couple of instances:

The image itself has the power to change perceptions.  It is what is framing a debate today.  It is newsworthy.  And the Statesman would have done its readers a disservice had it opted not to publish it.

yep

[El Diablo 4232]

The picture from 'Nam that was posted along with images from the starving kids in Biafra were just a part of my childhood. I'm not calling anyone a snowflake but reality is a bitch and seeing reality SHOULD make you weep. It's part of being human. I guess it's fair to question the "why" but that is another discussion.

[irishtexan 11533]

But I thought All Lives Mattered?

[atomheartbevo 90059]

10 minutes ago, El Diablo said:

The picture from 'Nam that was posted along with images from the starving kids in Biafra were just a part of my childhood. I'm not calling anyone a snowflake but reality is a bitch and seeing reality SHOULD make you weep. It's part of being human. I guess it's fair to question the "why" but that is another discussion.

Shit, just think of the dread Armybrat felt when he was seeing all of the photos that Matthew Brady and his crew were taking during the Civil War, thinking that one of those days, his grandson was going to show up in one of those photos.

[Ghost of LL 15605]

9 minutes ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

How many pictures of a dead toddler do you need to see? I don't think there is a need to show one, much less two. 
Are they going to show pictures of every child that dies tragically ?

Not every picture of a child who died tragically is germane to the leading political controversy of the day.  Nor does every such picture have the potential to significantly impact that controversy.

Is it your argument that a newspaper should not publish this photograph, knowing that it depicts the instant of death of numerous people (including children):

Should western newspapers not have shown this photograph, relecting the Japanese atrocities in Nanking:

[Celery Man 21027]

thoughts and prayers

[atomheartbevo 90059]

16 minutes ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

How many pictures of a dead toddler do you need to see? I don't think there is a need to show one, much less two. 
Are they going to show pictures of every child that dies tragically ?

This was a Texas-related story, so yes, it's important.  It should make everybody uncomfortable, make us think, instead of drawing out the snowflakes.

I'm more disturbed by the fact that you still read the Statesman.

[atomheartbevo 90059]

Should Time Magazine have withheld this photo, which shocked the shit out of Americans everywhere?

[TXLNGHRN10 341]

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

This was a Texas-related story, so yes, it's important.  It should make everybody uncomfortable, make us think, instead of drawing out the snowflakes.

I'm more disturbed by the fact that you still read the Statesman.

I never said it wasn't important. Just don't like to see pictures in the news of dead kids
Sorry I'm the only one who thinks this way. 

[Ghost of LL 15605]

1 minute ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

I never said it wasn't important. Just don't like to see pictures in the news of dead kids
Sorry I'm the only one who thinks this way. 

Can we just speak frankly for a minute, because we seem to be dancing around something important.

Is it that you think a photograph of a dead child should never be photographed, no matter how newsworthy?

Or is it instead that you don't want to see a photograph that lays bare the consequences of our country's abhorrent and inhumane treatment of refugees?

[DaysOff 8005]

That's got nothing to do with their deaths. You have to be able to swim before we get the chance to treat you inhumanely.

[Post Oak 20341]

[TXLNGHRN10 341]

I don't think they should be showing pictures of dead children in the news. 
 

14 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Can we just speak frankly for a minute, because we seem to be dancing around something important.

Is it that you think a photograph of a dead child should never be photographed, no matter how newsworthy?

Or is it instead that you don't want to see a photograph that lays bare the consequences of our country's abhorrent and inhumane treatment of refugees?

 

[Ghost of LL 15605]

1 minute ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

I don't think they should be showing pictures of dead children in the news. 
 

 

So you don't want the news.  You want a sanitized version of the news.

That's fine.  I think most people just disagree.

[TXLNGHRN10 341]

I didn't say I didn't "want the news", I can read the article just fine.  I stand by my opinion that it's sensationalized media and the pictures didn't need to be posted.
 

[TornACL 7766]

Bunch of bullshit ass Christians. 

[DaggerHorns 3106]

11 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

Solid counterpoint. Notice how his mother clings to a pack of Marlboro Lights and his misguided, toothless, meth cooking father wears cargo shorts. This unfortunately shows the celebration of another child’s societal atrocity aired on live television. I for one, will be candid. I celebrated this moment and I know that most of you cold hearted bastards did as well.

[El Diablo 4232]

5 minutes ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

I don't think they should be showing pictures of dead children in the news. 
 

 

From personal experience a lot of what turned Americans against the war in Vietnam, in addition to all of the good American soldiers that were dying there daily, was the news coverage - which included graphic images.

Leadership learned its lesson and in subsequent conflicts the medias access has been limited in combat areas. We didn't see the horror that was Iraq, not up the close and visceral images, like we saw prior. Not in mainstream media. We as a nation supported our troops for the most part but have little to no idea of what suffering was inflicted upon the civilians in that country.

[irishtexan 11533]

Was it sensationalism when Jet Magazine posted the bloated, beaten body of 13 year old Emmitt Till who was murdered because he SUPPOSEDLY whistled at a white woman? It wasn't the story of Emmitt Till that resulted in thousands of people to reevaluate their understanding of civil rights, segregation, the Jim Crow South, and racism. It was this picture. It was people having to reconcile their own treatment of blacks, their own prejudices, and their own politics. Difficult images result in change. You need to see that so you know the ramifications of current border policies.

[irishtexan 11533]

4 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

700 club or whatever they call themselves these days offer that.. I mean, with a pretty heavy agenda but... no dead kid photos. 

I'd prefer an agenda of "no dead kids"

[Huckleberry 33574]

8 minutes ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

I didn't say I didn't "want the news", I can read the article just fine.  I stand by my opinion that it's sensationalized media and the pictures didn't need to be posted.
 

Your opinion is wrong.

The very fact it bothers you this much is exactly why you need to see it.

Edited June 26, 2019 by Huckleberry

[formermav43 4606]

3 minutes ago, TornACL said:

Bunch of bullshit ass Christians. 

Seems relevant.

[Ghost of LL 15605]

10 minutes ago, TXLNGHRN10 said:

I didn't say I didn't "want the news", I can read the article just fine.  I stand by my opinion that it's sensationalized media and the pictures didn't need to be posted.
 

Perhaps you should focus your outrage on the governmental policies that led to the kid dying, rather than the newspaper that published a photo of the dead kid.

I fundamentally disagree with your characterization of the photograph being "sensationalized."  That's a nonsense word that conveys no information other than your subjective judgment.  Photographs are important because of how we humans digest and internalize information.  The photograph conveys what's happening on the border in a way words never could.

And that's precisely why you object to it.

[hayden_horn 11367]

5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Your opinion is wrong.

The very fact it bothers you this much is exactly why you need to see it.

this.

the visual representation of the actual atrocity/tragedy/whatever is powerful juju. 

did the nfl do anything to ray rice when someone wrote a story about ray rice hitting his wife?

no.

video comes out, and we are all faced with the visual, and it assaults our brain. same with the picture of the poor man and his child.

YOU NEED TO SEE IT.

otherwise, it's just words and that's easy to disassociate from "another sad happening on the border."

no, this is real for the people involved, and there are life or death stakes. that's important to see.

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

echo chamber is echoey!!!!

[SwanderedTalent 5761]

OP-- have you no decency, sir? At long last, HAVE YOU NO DECENCY?

[Huckleberry 33574]

Just now, SwanderedTalent said:

echo chamber is echoey!!!!

Dumbass is dumb. Tautologies are fun.

[MaybeACoordinator 8350]

Phase 2 of the people who hate this this picture ran (after questioning the judgment of the media that published it) is to say "Well, it's probably fake anyway." I have already seen this, today, in the wild, about this very picture.

[happyfunball 481]

[RollLeft 5045]

[El Diablo 4232]

35 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Perhaps you should focus your outrage on the governmental policies that led to the kid dying, rather than the newspaper that published a photo of the dead kid.

I fundamentally disagree with your characterization of the photograph being "sensationalized."  That's a nonsense word that conveys no information other than your subjective judgment.  Photographs are important because of how we humans digest and internalize information.  The photograph conveys what's happening on the border in a way words never could.

And that's precisely why you object to it.

The governments of El Salvador or Mexico? The deceased was born in one of them and had sanctuary in the other.

[Fozzz 152]

Just now, El Diablo said:

The governments of El Salvador or Mexico? The deceased was born in one of them and had sanctuary in the other.

How familiar are you with the history of El Salvador?

[TexArcher 38423]

The Statesman sucks for many reasons, but this isn't one of them.

And calling this "sensationalized media" is simply incorrect.  Uncomfortable photographs are fair game when they accurately contribute to an understanding of the story.  That's photojournalism.  

[El Diablo 4232]

35 minutes ago, Fozzz said:

How familiar are you with the history of El Salvador?

Fairly familiar, my nephew was born there and is now a US citizen.

[atomheartbevo 90059]

1 hour ago, Post Oak said:

[BrickHorn 18326]

 

49 minutes ago, happyfunball said:

 

Oh, come on.  That would NEVER happen and you know it.  As bad as you think Trump is, there is simply no way he would ever ask permission to play through.

[BrickHorn 18326]

...and this thread needs to move to CR

[MissingInAction 25314]

2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Your opinion is wrong.

The very fact it bothers you this much is exactly why you need to see it.

Lock it up.

[WhatTheBuck 28838]

1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

 

Oh, come on.  That would NEVER happen and you know it.  As bad as you think Trump is, there is simply no way he would ever ask permission to play through.

He'd never come that close to a water hazard. He'd just have his caddy place his ball on the green when his opponent wasn't looking. 

[Deej 77186]

I watch a lot of Lone Star Law. Are we sure they didn't get caught on an illegal trotline?

(I'll see myself out.)

[relapse98 634]

3 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

So you don't want the news.  You want a sanitized version of the news.

That's fine.  I think most people just disagree.

Some may even say, fake news.

[Larry T. Spider 1747]

I’m curious about the unwritten rules for the media in which pictures are shown. It seems that they do have a line that they typically don’t cross. Usually the face isn’t shown but the body with the scene to give context is. I also wonder how the internet has changed things as people have become desensitized to graphic images. Some of those images from 50 year ago were so powerful because people hasn’t seen stuff like that in print.