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Some people and posts above see this for the incredibly dangerous thing it is.  See the whole forest, not just the tree.  Roe is built on the bedrock of the 14th amendment and the inherent right to pr

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The whole episode is pretty bad for the Court.  The leak is embarrassing.  But the decision is catastrophic. You've got a 5-4 decision to get rid of a something that has been settled as a constit

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in one of the many instances in which i debunked your oversimplified, unsupported bullshit and you simply never responded, i addressed your absolutist contention that religious are more charitable tha

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A read on conservative justice of old versus the politicized conservative justice of new.

Fantastic piece. And if you want to diner stand how dead-wrong Alito is from a constitutional interpretation perspective, this does it.
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18 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

he speaks exactly how you'd think the governor of Oklahoma speaks.

 

It gets even worse. Asked a direct question, he has no answer. Instead blames "socialist democrats" when Republicans have been in the governor's office for more than two decades.

 

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On 5/14/2022 at 7:41 AM, Anastasis said:

I am curious hayden, do you keep a running tally of the personal attacks levied by posters against each other on this sub?  Sack is a fucking asshole no doubt, but I would be curious as to what your ledger shows in terms of the sum of the personal attacks directed at him. People wonder why the exchanges have gotten so personal and adversarial in this sub. Well, as you put it, it is not the individual posts, its the sum of the personal attacks that you let slide for years, only chiming up in ways that come off as capricious. The moderation of this sub wrt personal attacks has been a total shit show for a long time and this is the end result. Congrats. 

 

yeah, i keep a carefully curated and annotate excel spreadsheet, because i read every goddamn post on this board. <eyeroll>

his post was completely off topic and is the third or fourth time i've seen him levy that exact attack at penelope. 

all the mods do our best to toe the line between letting yall have your fracases, separating trolls from dumbasses, and generally letting the hate flow. hate along with a topical post that's actually responsive to someone? we'll most likely overlook it.

completely off topic insults? report em and i'll look at them. but i cannot be here 24/7 to read every post here. 

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On 5/14/2022 at 9:10 AM, Serak The Preparer said:

Have to agree. I certainly don't miss @Onboard 2.0 at all but his suspension that led to his tantrum was similarly capricious. Now there are certainly some that literally only come in to this forum to troll and avoid discussion (e.g. clapclap. caponeta) but for all his shitiness Sack will actually occasionally respond. I'm also not sure he gets more personal than others do to him.

I take and ignore 10 insults and falsehoods about me for every 1 I give out.  

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17 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

 

For all of Roberts' efforts to maintain an appearance of legitimacy for the Court, he's pretty comfortable legalizing outright bribery.

 

Roberts has a loooooong history of war against voting rights, so this ruling is par for the course for him

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1 hour ago, Neonmoon said:

Step 1: Google Golden Visa

Step 2: Plan escape from Theocracy

My dad - in his 80s, and functionally a life-long Republican voter (until the past 4-8 years or so) visited with my daughter on the phone yesterday, just their weekly chat.  We went out to dinner, and when we went to pick him up he was talking about both kids studying overseas next year.  He says "and I don't know if either of them is coming back [looks in the direction of the news on TV]....and I can't say I blame them."

The right has their vision of this country.  They are executing it, with extreme prejudice.  We will be another oligarchy fascist state to match their vision sooner than you think, capped off with an authoritarian dynasty as decreed by The Party, which will control all elections going forward, and thus declare their chosen candidates the winners, regardless of actual "votes" (which are all fraudulent anyway -- the way you can tell it's a fraudulent vote is that it's not for the candidate of The Party).  This is their dream.  They have openly told us that.  Believe them.

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31 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Has never happened one single time in history.  

No shit - it's why we need a general data protection regulation in the US. Fucking ANYBODY - literally anybody - can buy your realtime location data from your cellular provider. Your unique user traffic data from your ISP? Sold. Your usage histories from your smart thermostat? Sold. It all says in the privacy policy that they're selling your data, it just usually doesn't have the threat of christofascism backing it.

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2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

No shit - it's why we need a general data protection regulation in the US. Fucking ANYBODY - literally anybody - can buy your realtime location data from your cellular provider. Your unique user traffic data from your ISP? Sold. Your usage histories from your smart thermostat? Sold. It all says in the privacy policy that they're selling your data, it just usually doesn't have the threat of christofascism backing it.

Yep. They could put anything in there.  No one except for maybe a few lawyers that border insanity is reading that fine print and making decisions off of it. Cheaters. 

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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Oh, Texas.

 

This, even more so than abortion, seems like it would just cause a riot. Are they just going to invalidate marriage licenses?  How would any of that be feasible?  

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Trying to invalidate thousands of marriages seems like a really well thought out idea outside of it being absolutely fucking evil.  How are you going to take away a license that was legally granted?  Shitshow doesn't even begin to describe it.

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18 minutes ago, kevwun said:

  Shitshow doesn't even begin to describe it.

I picture it as something out of My Cousin Vinny, except instead of Vinny Gambini, it will be J.T. (the pool hall bully) attempting to say "every license issued to a same-sex couple is bullshit" and the proceedings will commence about like you would figure were J.T. to be a real attorney. Except it is Texas so he will win his case regardless.

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Trying to invalidate thousands of marriages seems like a really well thought out idea outside of it being absolutely fucking evil.  How are you going to take away a license that was legally granted?  Shitshow doesn't even begin to describe it.

Which is the point. The cruelty is the point. As is wrecking government institutions. What better way than to make contracts with the government completely unreliable.
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On 5/16/2022 at 9:59 AM, wildcat09 said:

 

For all of Roberts' efforts to maintain an appearance of legitimacy for the Court, he's pretty comfortable legalizing outright bribery.

Sooooo, that means Trump could take out a billion dollar loan to fund his 2024 campaign, and pay it back later with "donations" post-election? 

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21 minutes ago, Dutchrudder said:

Sooooo, that means Trump could take out a billion dollar loan to fund his 2024 campaign, and pay it back later with "donations" post-election? 

Oh, it's even better than that.

Trump can take out a billion dollar loan to fund his campaign.  He will use that money to pay his kids millions as "campaign consultants," and millions more will be paid to rent out his properties for "campaign events," and then he'll take in bribes "campaign contributions" to pay for it.

"Campaign finance" has become a naked money laundering bribery scheme, and SCOTUS is here for it.  In fact, I would not be surprised to see them strike down anti-bribery statutes because, after all, "money is free speech."

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On 5/15/2022 at 3:03 PM, South Austin said:

Oklahoma is piece of dick.

Texas is just as bad or worse on these issues and affects a lot more people. I can at least get legal weed to cope.

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Sooooo, that means Trump could take out a billion dollar loan to fund his 2024 campaign, and pay it back later with "donations" post-election? 

What in the actual fuck.   I can't even accept a free drink from an old coworker/friend who happens to be a vendor because of ethics rules.  But fake millionaires at the highest levels of government can take million dollar bribes.  

 

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31 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

What in the actual fuck.   I can't even accept a free drink from an old coworker/friend who happens to be a vendor because of ethics rules.  But fake millionaires at the highest levels of government can take million dollar bribes.  

 

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25 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Texas is going to be in a world of hurt.  The best and brightest will leave the state and not look back.

We have a project we're trying to get off the ground in San Antonio, but once we can prove we can do it remotely, I suspect we're not going to keep staying in Texas.  I spent my first 50 years here, and I just can't think of very many reasons to stay.  We'll miss a few friends, I'll sorely miss a couple restaurants, but otherwise, meh.

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14 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

We have a project we're trying to get off the ground in San Antonio, but once we can prove we can do it remotely, I suspect we're not going to keep staying in Texas.  I spent my first 50 years here, and I just can't think of very many reasons to stay.  We'll miss a few friends, I'll sorely miss a couple restaurants, but otherwise, meh.

Same.  

I'd have gladly lived the rest of my life in 1990's Austin, Texas.  But that time and that place are long gone, and what's replaced them is getting worse by the day.

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2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Same.  

I'd have gladly lived the rest of my life in 1990's Austin, Texas.  But that time and that place are long gone, and what's replaced them is getting worse by the day.

I don't even mind Austin's population explosion and cultural shift towards being a more generic big city.  What I mind is being surrounded by evil people who run the state government and the huge swatch of Texans who support them.

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't even mind Austin's population explosion and cultural shift towards being a more generic big city.  What I mind is being surrounded by evil people who run the state government and the huge swatch of Texans who support them.

Oh, agreed.

I guess what I mean is that Austin used to be so great that it was worth putting up with Texas being all around it.

Not so much anymore.  I feel like we've got maybe 10 more years before the last vestige of old Austin charm has been squeezed out of this place.  And by then I'll be looking to migrate anyway.

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1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said:

So can gay married couples transfer their marriage licenses to another state and remain married?  How would that work? I assume about 25-30 states would allow it, and the others would invalidate any same sex marriages on their books.  

We got married in Maine, specifically because we figured that Texas would drag it's feet (it did) and would look for the first opportunity to annul our marriage if the situation ever presented itself.  Looks like we weren't wrong.

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1 minute ago, Dutchrudder said:

So can gay married couples transfer their marriage licenses to another state and remain married?  How would that work? I assume about 25-30 states would allow it, and the others would invalidate any same sex marriages on their books.  

What's going to be FASCINATING is how this SCOTUS reads "full faith and credit" completely out of the Constitution:

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Article IV, Section 1:

Full Faith and Credit shall be given in each State to the public Acts, Records, and judicial Proceedings of every other State. And the Congress may by general Laws prescribe the Manner in which such Acts, Records and Proceedings shall be proved, and the Effect thereof.

Alito will write the opinion.  "Because, at the time of the ratification of the Constitution, there was no longstanding historical recognition of same-sex marriage, a state-granted same-sex marriage cannot possibly be a "public act" to which the full faith and credit clause of the Constitution was intended to apply, and therefore, states that do not wish to do so do NOT need to give full faith and credit to a same-sex marriage from another state."

Oh, and remember how a mere week ago, the Alito apologists were telling us that in no way does the Dodd  opinion mean the SCOTUS is coming for Obergefell, I mean, Alito even SAID he wasn't gonna do that?  It was a lie.  Like everything they say is a lie.

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12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't even mind Austin's population explosion and cultural shift towards being a more generic big city.  What I mind is being surrounded by evil people who run the state government and the huge swatch of Texans who support them.

 

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