The Supremes

[bolverk 29683]

23 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

As someone who is fascinated by flags, I'm totally here for these scandals of a vexilological nature.

r/vexillology is one of my favorite subreddits.

[Biff Tannen 45691]

And I learned a new word today.

[Walser 1109]

2 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

Motherfucker!

I had been wearing a pine tree flag hat for a couple years before Jan6. Except I meant it as An Appeal to Heaven should that bitchass fake billionaire orange chud really push for authoritarianism. I had no idea it had been co-opted by MAGAts. Those cosplaying twits don't even know what it means. When Jan6 was going down I had some friends text me that I guess you can't wear your hat anymore. I said why should I change, they're the ones that suck. Alas, I lost the hat at some point. /csb

Some actual background:

https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2017/04/16/john-lockes-appeal-to-heaven-its-continuing-relevance/

One of lesser known grievances of colonist land owners is that the British would mark the best trees anywhere to be reserved as masts, as England had already cleared their forests of suitable ones. Hence the "pine tree".

Really grinds my gears.

Edited May 22 by Walser

[bolverk 29683]

@Ghost of LL

On a lighter vexillological note, a reader asks what the lower left flag is (I don't know why it's marked as mature or adult content. It's the same photo as a above.)

Answer: It's the newish flag for Long Beach Island, NJ.

https://www.lbiflag.com/lbi-flag

 

[Foosters 17858]

looks like a pedo logo

[Chad Fuck 17684]

As someone who is fascinated by flags, I'm totally here for these scandals of a vexilological nature.

These assholes are ruining all the cool Revolution era flags.

Motherfucker!
I had been wearing a pine tree flag hat for a couple years before Jan6. Except I meant it as An Appeal to Heaven should that bitchass fake billionaire orange chud really push for authoritarianism. I had no idea it had been co-opted by MAGAts. Those cosplaying twits don't even know what it means. When Jan6 was going down I had some friends text me that I guess you can't wear your hat anymore. I said why should I change, they're the ones that suck. Alas, I lost the hat at some point. /csb
Some actual background:
https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2017/04/16/john-lockes-appeal-to-heaven-its-continuing-relevance/
One of lesser known grievances of colonist land owners is that the British would mark the best trees anywhere to be reserved as masts, as England had already cleared their forests of suitable ones. Hence the "pine tree".
Really grinds my gears.

See my previous post re same.

[Bozo_Casanova 26474]

Just now, Chad Fuck said:

These assholes are ruining all the cool Revolution era flags.

This is why liberals and pro-Democracy patriots need to really lean into the American flag and why progressives are so dumb to reject it, indeed part of the overall pattern of progressive maxis being hugely and disastrously stupid and counterproductive throughout time.
Symbols have power. Capturing the symbols is strategic. 

[jimmyjazz 45971]

1 hour ago, Ghost of LL said:

As someone who is fascinated by flags, I'm totally here for these scandals of a vexilological nature.

[Biff Tannen 45691]

[YGIFS 19450]

^

Samuel, what's that behind your back?

"What this?  Just a crooked case and a number of other unjust rulings."  

[Pods 7554]

3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

This is why liberals and pro-Democracy patriots need to really lean into the American flag and why progressives are so dumb to reject it, indeed part of the overall pattern of progressive maxis being hugely and disastrously stupid and counterproductive throughout time.
Symbols have power. Capturing the symbols is strategic. 

Would be a nice contrast between Democrats using the actual American flag as a flag only, while the fascists constantly desecrate the flag with their tacky clothes, thin blue line/grey motifs and Trump on top of a tank. 

 

 

[Anastasis 23475]

4 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

This is why liberals and pro-Democracy patriots need to really lean into the American flag and why progressives are so dumb to reject it, indeed part of the overall pattern of progressive maxis being hugely and disastrously stupid and counterproductive throughout time.
Symbols have power. Capturing the symbols is strategic. 

Maybe they should just lean into the rules based international order. About as ficticous and imaginary as flag pron. 

But jingos love all that shit. 

[jimmyjazz 45971]

4 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

But jingos love all that shit. 

Jingo ate my baby!

[Anastasis 23475]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Jingo ate my baby!

Ate many souls and peoples humanity too. 

[TDunk 590]

30 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Maybe they should just lean into the rules based international order. About as ficticous and imaginary as flag pron. 

But jingos love all that shit. 

Fictitious. Just like your both sideism. 

[Anastasis 23475]

2 minutes ago, TDunk said:

Fictitious. Just like your both sideism. 

 

Good job buddy. Your contribution is on par with a spell checking paper clip. 

[Willfully Horn 8024]

5 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

These assholes are ruining all the cool Revolution era flags.
See my previous post re same.

Agreed. Patriots they are not. 
 

[WhatTheBuck 28786]

11 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

As someone who is fascinated by flags, I'm totally here for these scandals of a vexilological nature.

[Bozo_Casanova 26474]

6 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Maybe they should just lean into the rules based international order. About as ficticous and imaginary as flag pron. 

But jingos love all that shit. 

It’s funny how the burn it all down guys are so mad that institutions are failing.

You keep trying to hammer this point home, but the international order is kaput, my man. It was destroyed by arsonists, who burned it all down to prove it was flammable. This is your world now. 
 

Edited May 23 by Bozo_Casanova

[Anastasis 23475]

59 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It’s funny how the burn it all down guys are so mad that institutions are failing.

You keep trying to hammer this point home, but the international order is kaput, my man. It was destroyed by arsonists, who burned it all down to prove it was flammable. This is your world now. 
 

 

I guess you are all out of lectures on decency and the bureaucratic state. That’s too bad. There never was a rules based order, at least not in our life times. Just geopolitical hegemony hid behind rhetoric and jingoism and some flag hugging. If anything got burnt down it was just your willful self delusion.

Edited May 23 by Anastasis

[locodos 5387]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

 

I guess you are all out of lectures on decency and the bureaucratic state. That’s too bad. There never was a rules based order, at least not in our life times. Just geopolitical hegemony hid behind rhetoric and jingoism and some flag hugging. If anything got burnt down it was just your willful self delusion.

Amazing how his "willful self delusion" is taking down bridges and infrastructure. 

Remind me not to piss Bozo_C off!

[DDD Dad 14339]

13 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

 

14 hours ago, Ghost of LL said:

As someone who is fascinated by flags, I'm totally here for these scandals of a vexilological nature.

 

13 hours ago, bolverk said:

r/vexillology is one of my favorite subreddits.

 

13 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

And I learned a new word today.

 

13 hours ago, bolverk said:

@Ghost of LL

On a lighter vexillological note, a reader asks what the lower left flag is (I don't know why it's marked as mature or adult content. It's the same photo as a above.)

Answer: It's the newish flag for Long Beach Island, NJ.

https://www.lbiflag.com/lbi-flag

 

Dammit. Beat me to it. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26474]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

I guess you are all out of lectures on decency and the bureaucratic state. That’s too bad. There never was a rules based order, at least not in our life times. Just geopolitical hegemony hid behind rhetoric and jingoism and some flag hugging. If anything got burnt down it was just your willful self delusion

Sorry for the most peaceful and prosperous 60 years of world history, I guess.  

[Ghost of LL 15531]

13 hours ago, Chad Fuck said:

These assholes are ruining all the cool Revolution era flags.
See my previous post re same.

I mean, say what you will about the Nazis, but they didn't appropriate the tricolor of the Weimar Republic or steal the flag of the German Empire.  Fuck no--they went out and created their own flag with its own design.  Which, admittedly, they lifted the Hindus.  But still . . . .

I wish our Nazis would make up their own fucking symbol and leave the good Revolutionary flags for those of us who actually support the country the Revolution founded.

31 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

 

 

 

 

Dammit. Beat me to it. 

I obviously feel seen.

[Nivek 16944]

It’s funny how the burn it all down guys are so mad that institutions are failing.
You keep trying to hammer this point home, but the international order is kaput, my man. It was destroyed by arsonists, who burned it all down to prove it was flammable. This is your world now. 
 

Funny is not the word I would use.

[Chad Fuck 17684]

I obviously feel seen.

We share a lot in common, you and I.

[Bozo_Casanova 26474]

54 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I mean, say what you will about the Nazis, but they didn't appropriate the tricolor of the Weimar Republic or steal the flag of the German Empire.  Fuck no--they went out and created their own flag with its own design.  Which, admittedly, they lifted the Hindus.  But still . . . .

During the deepest depths of 2020 I was being recruited for a very big job with a very big company that would have been a giant pain in the ass but also a huge increase in income. 
Around that same time I was deep diving on the time between the world wars and rereading contemporaneous histories of the period, ie Churchill, Shirer etc.

The recruiting process was secret, so things went out of order. I had a very promising discussion on zoom with the external recruiter, then an NDA, followed by a nearly two hour love fest with the hiring C-suite officer, followed the next day with a discussion of process and management styles with a global HR exec. All on Zoom. 
During the HR discussion there was a strange moment where her face and tone changed sharply and went very much from a conversation between future colleagues to an awkward and uncomfortable encounter- from that moment she could not end the call soon enough.

Even more odd given the need for secrecy- the process ended immediately with them going dark, which is not usually the case with executive hiring discussions. I found out they made a hire when the press release dropped. I wasn’t offended, I was almost certainly the least senior person they were talking to, and honestly they made a great hire. 

That said, I moved this book off my middle shelf to avoid any possible future confusion.

Edited May 23 by Bozo_Casanova

[Brisketexan 105154]

During the deepest depths of 2020 I was being recruited for a very big job with a very big company that would have been a giant pain in the ass but also a huge increase in income. 
Around that same time I was deep diving on the time between the world wars and rereading contemporaneous histories of the period, ie Churchill, Shirer etc.
The recruiting process was secret, so things went out of order. I had a very promising discussion on zoom with the external recruiter, then an NDA, followed by a nearly two hour love fest with the hiring C-suite officer, followed the next day with a discussion of process and management styles with a global HR exec. All on Zoom. 
During the HR discussion there was a strange moment where her face and tone changed sharply and went very much from a conversation between future colleagues to an awkward and uncomfortable encounter- from that moment she could not end the call soon enough.
Even more odd given the need for secrecy- the process ended immediately with them going dark, which is not usually the case with executive hiring discussions. I found out they made a hire when the press release dropped. I wasn’t offended, I was almost certainly the least senior person they were talking to, and honestly they made a great hire. 
That said, I moved this book off my middle shelf to avoid any possible future confusion.

But…for future reference…you also decided to wait until AFTER Zoom calls end before you jerk off, right?

[South Austin 52518]

3 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

But…for future reference…you also decided to wait until AFTER Zoom calls end before you jerk off, right?

Don't be silly.  Who Zooms with anything below the chest?

[Aqua Buddha 14598]

Along with moving out to the "country," flag obsession seems to be another old white guy thing that I don't have or don't understand.

That being said, if someone on my street did the flag fuckery that Alito does, that would be embarrassing here.  He's a SC justice, for god's sake.  

[kevwun 15795]

When I got the Shirer book for Christmas last year my wife freaked out when I put it on the bookshelf.  They may want to consider changing that cover.  The swastika stands out even more on my copy because it's red and black.

Edited May 23 by kevwun

[SydneyCarton 48108]

15 hours ago, Walser said:

Motherfucker!

I had been wearing a pine tree flag hat for a couple years before Jan6. Except I meant it as An Appeal to Heaven should that bitchass fake billionaire orange chud really push for authoritarianism. I had no idea it had been co-opted by MAGAts. Those cosplaying twits don't even know what it means. When Jan6 was going down I had some friends text me that I guess you can't wear your hat anymore. I said why should I change, they're the ones that suck. Alas, I lost the hat at some point. /csb

Some actual background:

https://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2017/04/16/john-lockes-appeal-to-heaven-its-continuing-relevance/

One of lesser known grievances of colonist land owners is that the British would mark the best trees anywhere to be reserved as masts, as England had already cleared their forests of suitable ones. Hence the "pine tree".

Really grinds my gears.

 

[C-Man 27230]

2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

 

I guess you are all out of lectures on decency and the bureaucratic state. That’s too bad. There never was a rules based order, at least not in our life times. Just geopolitical hegemony hid behind rhetoric and jingoism and some flag hugging. If anything got burnt down it was just your willful self delusion.

 

32 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

During the deepest depths of 2020 I was being recruited for a very big job with a very big company that would have been a giant pain in the ass but also a huge increase in income. 
Around that same time I was deep diving on the time between the world wars and rereading contemporaneous histories of the period, ie Churchill, Shirer etc.

The recruiting process was secret, so things went out of order. I had a very promising discussion on zoom with the external recruiter, then an NDA, followed by a nearly two hour love fest with the hiring C-suite officer, followed the next day with a discussion of process and management styles with a global HR exec. All on Zoom. 
During the HR discussion there was a strange moment where her face and tone changed sharply and went very much from a conversation between future colleagues to an awkward and uncomfortable encounter- from that moment she could not end the call soon enough.

Even more odd given the need for secrecy- the process ended immediately with them going dark, which is not usually the case with executive hiring discussions. I found out they made a hire when the press release dropped. I wasn’t offended, I was almost certainly the least senior person they were talking to, and honestly they made a great hire. 

That said, I moved this book off my middle shelf to avoid any possible future confusion.

So it wasn't Trammell Crow you were interviewing with.

 

22 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Don't be silly.  Who Zooms with anything below the chest?

... says hi

 

Edited May 23 by C-Man

[Ghost of LL 15531]

33 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

During the deepest depths of 2020 I was being recruited for a very big job with a very big company that would have been a giant pain in the ass but also a huge increase in income. 
Around that same time I was deep diving on the time between the world wars and rereading contemporaneous histories of the period, ie Churchill, Shirer etc.

The recruiting process was secret, so things went out of order. I had a very promising discussion on zoom with the external recruiter, then an NDA, followed by a nearly two hour love fest with the hiring C-suite officer, followed the next day with a discussion of process and management styles with a global HR exec. All on Zoom. 
During the HR discussion there was a strange moment where her face and tone changed sharply and went very much from a conversation between future colleagues to an awkward and uncomfortable encounter- from that moment she could not end the call soon enough.

Even more odd given the need for secrecy- the process ended immediately with them going dark, which is not usually the case with executive hiring discussions. I found out they made a hire when the press release dropped. I wasn’t offended, I was almost certainly the least senior person they were talking to, and honestly they made a great hire. 

That said, I moved this book off my middle shelf to avoid any possible future confusion.

I have that book on my office bookshelf.  But I have removed the dust jacket for precisely that reason.

It is a great book, though, and I cannot recommend it highly enough.  I may have to go re-read it at some point.

 

Nah--fuck that.  I'm afraid I'm going to live it soon enough.

[Brisketexan 105154]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Sorry for the most peaceful and prosperous 60 years of world history, I guess.  

A whole lot of this.

Can we find a metric shitton to criticize the US, the West, etc. about over the past century?  Fuck yes.  But to do so to the exclusion of the undeniable metrics of how life on this earth improved, in large part and often directly in connection with mechanisms and measures emanating from and delivered by the US and the West, is foolishness.

I'm a good guy, I've done an incredible amount of positive things that have improved my community, have made my family and many others more prosperous, safe, and secure.  BUT...if we want to focus on "how that dick Brisket is a hypocrite, and how he does something dickish to someone at least once every fucking day," we can certainly do that, and it would be accurate.  I do many dickish things.  I have lied.  I have betrayed trust. I have acted selfishly.  I have been mean.  If you describe me and define me solely by my negative traits, then I am unquestionably an awful human being, who the world would be better off without.  If, however, you consider me as a complete human being, who has faults and has often acted badly, but who also has some great strengths and has done much good, on balance I think I'm a pretty solid net positive for the world and for my community.

The rules based international order is flawed.  As any human-driven idea and institution will be.  That approach has also led to the most peaceful and prosperous period modern humanity has ever known.  That doesn't mean we overlook the bad, and don't try to remedy any harm done, and aspire to be better....but it sure as shit also means that we don't overlook or minimize the good.

[safe sex 11735]

4 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

I have that book on my office bookshelf.  But I have removed the dust jacket for precisely that reason.

It is a great book, though, and I cannot recommend it highly enough.  I may have to go re-read it at some point.

 

Nah--fuck that.  I'm afraid I'm going to live it soon enough.

The audiobook is fantastic (and horrifying). Took me about a month to get through it all, but well worth the effort

[jimmyjazz 45971]

52 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That said, I moved this book off my middle shelf to avoid any possible future confusion.

I have to admit, I laughed.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

the far right has adopted so many symbols that I think twice about someone when I see those symbols. Some of the symbols are obviously bad like the Confederate flag but others are seemingly harmless until you see the people who adopt it. For that one, I'm thinking about the "We the People" arm tattoos in the Declaration of Independence font. When I see that tattoo, it's very likely it's a GQP follower. For less committed fanatics, the We the People may just be a t-shirt.

[TexEx15 17542]

 

Edited May 23 by TexEx15

[SydneyCarton 48108]

3 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

the far right has adopted so many symbols that I think twice about someone when I see those symbols. Some of the symbols are obviously bad like the Confederate flag but others are seemingly harmless until you see the people who adopt it. For that one, I'm thinking about the "We the People" arm tattoos in the Declaration of Independence font. When I see that tattoo, it's very likely it's a GQP follower. For less committed fanatics, the We the People may just be a t-shirt.

I've had this issue as well. These twats put up this flag on the end of my street awhile back, I've posted about it here. It wasn't an appeal to heaven, but I had to look it up, etc, and sure enough, nutter. I can't even remember what it was now, but yeah, shit is hard to track. If I see anything Jingoistic at this point I assume GQP. 

[elfenix 34272]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

During the deepest depths of 2020 I was being recruited for a very big job with a very big company that would have been a giant pain in the ass but also a huge increase in income. 
Around that same time I was deep diving on the time between the world wars and rereading contemporaneous histories of the period, ie Churchill, Shirer etc.

The recruiting process was secret, so things went out of order. I had a very promising discussion on zoom with the external recruiter, then an NDA, followed by a nearly two hour love fest with the hiring C-suite officer, followed the next day with a discussion of process and management styles with a global HR exec. All on Zoom. 
During the HR discussion there was a strange moment where her face and tone changed sharply and went very much from a conversation between future colleagues to an awkward and uncomfortable encounter- from that moment she could not end the call soon enough.

Even more odd given the need for secrecy- the process ended immediately with them going dark, which is not usually the case with executive hiring discussions. I found out they made a hire when the press release dropped. I wasn’t offended, I was almost certainly the least senior person they were talking to, and honestly they made a great hire. 

That said, I moved this book off my middle shelf to avoid any possible future confusion.

I had a seminar course about modern thought. Had 10 or 12 books assigned that semester. We read women's lib, anti colonialism, and, for insight as to how propaganda works, Hitler. There was a stack of his awful tomes in the Co-op. I stopped selling my books back after I didn't have enough to get lunch, and I don't believe in throwing books out, so I still have the fucking thing, buried in a cabinet behind a row of other books at the bottom of the shelf.

[LCHorn 2620]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That said, I moved this book off my middle shelf to avoid any possible future confusion.

Congrats, you got me to laugh out loud in a public restroom.

[SydneyCarton 48108]

4 minutes ago, elfenix said:

I had a seminar course about modern thought. Had 10 or 12 books assigned that semester. We read women's lib, anti colonialism, and, for insight as to how propaganda works, Hitler. There was a stack of his awful tomes in the Co-op. I stopped selling my books back after I didn't have enough to get lunch, and I don't believe in throwing books out, so I still have the fucking thing, buried in a cabinet behind a row of other books at the bottom of the shelf.

It's been in the back of my mind to college a bunch of older HS and College history books of the United States and bury them somewhere so I can show my kid how people change recorded history all the time in 10 or so years. Unfortuantely half priced books closed most of their Houston location, and I just haven't gotten around to figuring out what books, how to find/buy them etc. Might be something this board would be good at putting together. Just the difference in recent changes for what I was raised learning about the Civil War, Climate Change, Evolution, and now vaccines would be...stark. 

Edited May 23 by SydneyCarton

[Brisketexan 105154]

The audiobook is fantastic (and horrifying). Took me about a month to get through it all, but well worth the effort

The cool thing is that you can just read a collection of newspapers from the last few years to get the same story 2, electric boogaloo.

[jimmyjazz 45971]

16 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I've had this issue as well. These twats put up this flag on the end of my street awhile back, I've posted about it here. It wasn't an appeal to heaven, but I had to look it up, etc, and sure enough, nutter. I can't even remember what it was now, but yeah, shit is hard to track. If I see anything Jingoistic at this point I assume GQP. 

I feel that way about the "Come and Take It" flag.  At this point, it seems most of those who display the cannon & phrase are 2A nutjobs.  It's too bad, because it references an interesting part of Texas history, and the phrase itself goes back to the Revolutionary War.

This is why we can't have nice things.

[HenryJames 66082]

26 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

We are all Redeemers now.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I feel that way about the "Come and Take It" flag.  At this point, it seems most of those who display the cannon & phrase are 2A nutjobs.  It's too bad, because it references an interesting part of Texas history, and the phrase itself goes back to the Revolutionary War.

This is why we can't have nice things.

Yes. I worry that they eventually pull the American flag into the litmus test if you're a 2A/GQP nutjob or not.

[locodos 5387]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I feel that way about the "Come and Take It" flag.  At this point, it seems most of those who display the cannon & phrase are 2A nutjobs.  It's too bad, because it references an interesting part of Texas history, and the phrase itself goes back to the Revolutionary War.

This is why we can't have nice things.

yup...

I love the guys with a spartan helmet on their ride...  cool cool. 

A monarchic, slave holding, elitist group of serial pedophiles who inbreed themselves into the dust of history.  

Irony is dead

 

[DixonHur 11337]

1 minute ago, HenryJames said:

We are all Redeemers now.

Damned Democrats!  

Did you know Lincoln was a Republican?

[Bozo_Casanova 26474]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

The swastika stands out even more on my copy because it's red and black.

Mine too. Very eye catching.