The Supremes

[Pancho 45103]

 

[Goredho 17427]

4 hours ago, Michael Knight said:

Hell England might vote in Labour looks like they went thru their insane period early and are recovering

Good, can we get MI6 to meddle in our elections?

[TexPx 2325]

ok we see it the same.  I think the risk are:
1. Red states are gone, huge risks.
2. Blue states are probably ok (SCOTUS can't outlaw us), but sweep of Congress/WH by MAGA makes it a risk at that time.
3. Violence anywhere is a risk (everything from Pulse style to civil war style (maga vs. others, not people vs. government).

There will be no Blue States. They will implement an electoral college type system like Texas wants to do.

[Goredho 17427]

1 hour ago, troph said:

I think the likelihood of a traditional civil war is nil. I think the federal government is too strong to allow for a sustained insurrection or for any succession. I do think there can and probably will be more skirmishes between militia types and the government. I also think citizen on citizen violence is already here and it will increase. I think MAGA violence against LGBTQ and POC (black Americans and people of Hispanic decent) is coming. And in that sense, I do believe there is a high likelihood of a non-traditional civil war where people die at the hands of their neighbors.

One scenario I think you could see with a MAGA reshaping of the federal government (I'll use Colorado as an example, because there is a shit ton of MAGA crazy here in rural areas):  Colorado take steps to protect rights for its citizens that stand to be marginalized if Project 2025 happens.  The executive orders and federal law alluded to in Project 2025 are enacted that contradicts those state protections.  Rural MAGA militia types take it upon themselves to enforce the federal laws by breaking the state laws.  The state will step in to enforce their laws.  As the state law is applied to the militia types who deputized themselves to enforce federal laws, those vigilantes will appeal to Trump and MAGA to intercede and protect them.  If it ever gets to that point, I don't know what happens.  I guess it depends on how beneficent Trump is feeling that day.  I'm sure Steve Bannon will be around to remind him that Colorado tried to keep him off the ballot.

[troph 24914]

5 minutes ago, Goredho said:

One scenario I think you could see with a MAGA reshaping of the federal government (I'll use Colorado as an example, because there is a shit ton of MAGA crazy here in rural areas):  Colorado take steps to protect rights for its citizens that stand to be marginalized if Project 2025 happens.  The executive orders and federal law alluded to in Project 2025 are enacted that contradicts those state protections.  Rural MAGA militia types take it upon themselves to enforce the federal laws by breaking the state laws.  The state will step in to enforce their laws.  As the state law is applied to the militia types who deputized themselves to enforce federal laws, those vigilantes will appeal to Trump and MAGA to intercede and protect them.  If it ever gets to that point, I don't know what happens.  I guess it depends on how beneficent Trump is feeling that day.  I'm sure Steve Bannon will be around to remind him that Colorado tried to keep him off the ballot.

That to me falls in the civil violence category where no geographical location is safe.  We’ve now been to CO for the summer twice. I think we are narrowing in where we would choose to be and while not urban it seems relatively liberal. 

Edited July 3 by troph

[Goredho 17427]

Just now, troph said:

That to me falls in the civil violence category where no geographical location is safe.  We’ve now been to CO for the summer twice. I think we are narrowing in where we would chose to be and while not urban it seems relatively liberal. 

Yeah, there are spots that are rural and not crazy here in CO, and it usually aligns with affluence and education.  Just look at county voting maps, they tell you where you definitely don't want to be.

[troph 24914]

7 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Yeah, there are spots that are rural and not crazy here in CO, and it usually aligns with affluence and education.  Just look at county voting maps, they tell you where you definitely don't want to be.

This map aligns with our decision making. there are parts of the mountains in CO that are as nutty as rural Texas. They are pretty easy to spot too. we are likely passing on Durango (though I think that’s the blue county south central?), Pagosa Springs, Gunnison, Salida, Buena Vista, Lake City…  

preferences are HWY 82, steamboat, crested butte, outside of telluride, maybe ouray and silverton. Southwest CO though is so effing isolated so it’s likely a no for that reason alone. 

Edited July 3 by troph

[troph 24914]

29 minutes ago, TexPx said:

There will be no Blue States. They will implement an electoral college type system like Texas wants to do.

Not following you 

[Goredho 17427]

Just now, troph said:

This map aligns with our decision making. there are parts of the mountains in CO that are as nutty as rural Texas. They are pretty easy to spot too. we are likely passing on Durango (though I think that’s the blue county south central?), Pagosa Springs, Gunnison, Salida, Buena Vista, Lake City…  

Chaffee county with Salida and Buena Vista would be as good a place as any outside of Denver, unless you can afford to live in Summit (Breckenridge), Eagle (Vail) or Dolores (Telluride) counties.  The light blue on the bottom left is La Plata county where Durango is.  The blue in the south central is Costilla county, and I'm not sure why it's so blue.  There is not much there, and I've driven through it, and it doesn't match what I see in other counties.  Poor, undereducated, white and rural is almost always a recipe for MAGA.

[troph 24914]

Just now, Goredho said:

Chaffee county with Salida and Buena Vista would be as good a place as any outside of Denver, unless you can afford to live in Summit (Breckenridge), Eagle (Vail) or Dolores (Telluride) counties.  The light blue on the bottom left is La Plata county where Durango is.  The blue in the south central is Costilla county, and I'm not sure why it's so blue.  There is not much there, and I've driven through it, and it doesn't match what I see in other counties.  Poor, undereducated, white and rural is almost always a recipe for MAGA.

interesting. Chaffee seems a bit maga-y. I always think durango / pagosa are further central than they are. too many texans going there for my liking.

[Goredho 17427]

1 minute ago, troph said:

interesting. Chaffee seems a bit maga-y. I always think durango / pagosa are further central than they are. too many texans going there for my liking.

Chaffee is light blue on that map and that's pretty accurate.  The vast majority of people are very tolerant and very accepting.  There are a few assholes that like being as loud as possible about how they are living under liberal oppression.

[Js1 85629]

21 minutes ago, Goredho said:

Yeah, there are spots that are rural and not crazy here in CO, and it usually aligns with affluence and education.  Just look at county voting maps, they tell you where you definitely don't want to be.

Just go ahead and give Eastern Colorado to Kansas 

[troph 24914]

Just now, Js1 said:

Just go ahead and give Eastern Colorado to Kansas 

I hear it smells like kansas too.

[tx 3 putt 77594]

2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

They already said that.  They said that the President can take any action that is colorable within his core constitutional powers.  One of those is as commander in chief of the military.

As he has determined that the homogays and trans and brown people and democrats are a grave threat to national security, poisoning the blood of our country, which constitutes open warfare against real Americans, he will order the military to round all of those people up and execute them if they resist/argue.

Criminal consequences: NONE.

Impeachment conviction risk: NONE, unless the dems control 60 votes in the Senate, which will not happen when he imprisons/kills/otherwise strips the right to vote from all democratic voters.

Just read the script.  The most recent one that fits was written in German, but I'm sure you can find a good translation somewhere.

project 2025 - criminalize being lgqbt 

[bonnieblue 542]

My wife and I have been mulling over a move out of Austin as well for these reasons. We are about to have two  young daughters, and even if things don’t completely deteriorate federally, I can’t imagine things will look great (for us) in Texas in the next 5-10 years. We’re both very feminine and conventionally attractive, so no hassles wherever we go on a day-to-day level, but I think the child  and marriage license thing are going to be a problem in the future. 
 

Any good recs on an accepting Denver suburb or relatively nice neighborhood in Denver proper?

[WhatTheBuck 28813]

7 hours ago, Js1 said:

The Tories have been in power for 14 consecutive years before they are getting shellacked tomorrow.  So I guess you're saying we have to go through 3+ consecutive terms of MAGA?

We went through 12 years of Reagan/Bush. We’ve paid our dues. 

[scottsins 1980]

I’m not sure I understand your thoughts here. 

I was just stating that if Barrett’s concurrence did not include certain holdings of the majority, then future cases would be decided the same way on that particular issue, meaning 5-4 with Barrett agreeing with the three dissenters here.

[Biff Tannen 45750]

5 hours ago, troph said:

Not following you 

Texas Rs have proposed that you have to win the majority of COUNTIES, not population. So bumfuck county in west Texas with 300 people has as much voting power as Harris County. 

[Surly Bevo 25222]

12 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Texas Rs have proposed that you have to win the majority of COUNTIES, not population. So bumfuck county in west Texas with 300 people has as much voting power as Harris County. 

[troph 24914]

1 hour ago, scottsins said:

I was just stating that if Barrett’s concurrence did not include certain holdings of the majority, then future cases would be decided the same way on that particular issue, meaning 5-4 with Barrett agreeing with the three dissenters here.

Yes gotcha now. its only real relevance is as a contrast to the majority opinion to better understand the primary holdings of the majority. Sucks big time.

[troph 24914]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Texas Rs have proposed that you have to win the majority of COUNTIES, not population. So bumfuck county in west Texas with 300 people has as much voting power as Harris County. 

Ah for state wide. Gotcha. Well that’s shitty, but hopefully I’ll be gone by then. Seems inevitable though. 

[TDunk 590]

11 hours ago, troph said:

deal, though you might have to come to the mountains, we wouldn't be in Denver.

Beware of Boeberts former district.  Estes is gorgeous and Telluride is over there as well.  I would suggest Fort Collins.  East of the MTNs so 300 days of sun and decent pizza. 

[TDunk 590]

6 hours ago, bonnieblue said:

My wife and I have been mulling over a move out of Austin as well for these reasons. We are about to have two  young daughters, and even if things don’t completely deteriorate federally, I can’t imagine things will look great (for us) in Texas in the next 5-10 years. We’re both very feminine and conventionally attractive, so no hassles wherever we go on a day-to-day level, but I think the child  and marriage license thing are going to be a problem in the future. 
 

Any good recs on an accepting Denver suburb or relatively nice neighborhood in Denver proper?

Downtown isn't too bad.  Big homeless shelter on the East side.  But Arvada and Broomfield are good.  

[tx 3 putt 77594]

2 hours ago, troph said:

Ah for state wide. Gotcha. Well that’s shitty, but hopefully I’ll be gone by then. Seems inevitable though. 

 

[Biff Tannen 45750]

5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Lulz, “maintain a modicum of self control”. Don’t let this guy see the Doom thread. 

[CooterBrown 18034]

Beware of Boeberts former district.  Estes is gorgeous and Telluride is over there as well.  I would suggest Fort Collins.  East of the MTNs so 300 days of sun and decent pizza. 

We are most likely headed to Fort Collins.

[troph 24914]

8 hours ago, TDunk said:

Beware of Boeberts former district.  Estes is gorgeous and Telluride is over there as well.  I would suggest Fort Collins.  East of the MTNs so 300 days of sun and decent pizza. 

isn't her district basically all of the mountains?

[Js1 85629]

We gonna set up some lit af CFP watch parties for our Texas team after 2024-25

[Captainant 27857]

My wife and I have been discussing where we will go when we leave Texas. Colorado would be lovely and we have some family there on my side, but wildfires seem to be CO's version of a hurricane 

[TexPx 2325]

Ah for state wide. Gotcha. Well that’s shitty, but hopefully I’ll be gone by then. Seems inevitable though. 

New Trump administration will make it a mandate for all states.

[troph 24914]

40 minutes ago, Captainant said:

My wife and I have been discussing where we will go when we leave Texas. Colorado would be lovely and we have some family there on my side, but wildfires seem to be CO's version of a hurricane 

we are here now, had dinner last night with new friends, gay couple we met playing tennis. there was a fire here pre-covid. they evacuated, their hood and home were saved. the whole town was saved but the scars on the mountain are still here.  there's been enough recovery that it's not an eye sore (grass/scrub covered mountain now) but you can definitely see it.

[TexPx 2325]

My wife and I have been mulling over a move out of Austin as well for these reasons. We are about to have two  young daughters, and even if things don’t completely deteriorate federally, I can’t imagine things will look great (for us) in Texas in the next 5-10 years. We’re both very feminine and conventionally attractive, so no hassles wherever we go on a day-to-day level, but I think the child  and marriage license thing are going to be a problem in the future. 
 
Any good recs on an accepting Denver suburb or relatively nice neighborhood in Denver proper?

Have some relatives who live in a lovely older neighborhood east of Colorado Blvd between 6th and 8th. Very accessible and reasonable sized lots. Getting some infill but they seem to be complimentary to existing houses. Not sure on pricing.

[Pig Bellmont 8742]

The only way out is to pack the Court and undo the crazy bullshit of this term - but I can’t see how that actually gets accomplished. 6 members of the Court paved the way for a GOP dictatorship. It’s insane to me how many people, including Roberts, want Trump to be dictator for life. 

It’s difficult to understand why so many people are ho hum about this slow moving coup

[Biff Tannen 45750]

38 minutes ago, TexPx said:

New Trump administration will make it a mandate for all states.

But state’s rights!  Oh, yeah, only for red states. 

[Bozo_Casanova 26581]

1 hour ago, CooterBrown said:

We are most likely headed to Fort Collins.

great town. looking there, Taos and Santa Fe (and NYC). 

Edited July 4 by Bozo_Casanova

[David Dennison 18952]

17 minutes ago, TexPx said:

Have some relatives who live in a lovely older neighborhood east of Colorado Blvd between 6th and 8th. Very accessible and reasonable sized lots. Getting some infill but they seem to be complimentary to existing houses. Not sure on pricing.

I read that as Kramerica Street.

[Jive Turkey 12657]

30 minutes ago, TexPx said:

Have some relatives who live in a lovely older neighborhood east of Colorado Blvd between 6th and 8th. Very accessible and reasonable sized lots. Getting some infill but they seem to be complimentary to existing houses. Not sure on pricing.

I have some very good friends at 17th and Kramerica. So north of Colfax.  It’s a great spot near City Park. My wife and I have talked about Denver being a possible landing spot if we ever leave Texas.  

[HenryJames 66192]

16 hours ago, bonnieblue said:

We’re both very feminine and conventionally attractive

Pics?

[Biff Tannen 45750]

1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

I read that as Kramerica Street.

Darren!

[NAVY 6747]

I was swimming laps and started thinking:  these judges are open to bribes, let’s just offer more. Right? 

[YGIFS 19452]

5 hours ago, David Dennison said:

I read that as Kramerica Street.

Now how in the hell the same street intersect with itself?   You Silly Man!

[chainsaw 9879]

https://www.alaskasnewssource.com/2024/07/09/facing-impeachment-sexual-misconduct-allegations-with-clerk-forces-alaska-federal-judge-resignation-ninth-circuit-judicial-council-says/

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Facing impeachment, sexual misconduct allegations with clerk forces Alaska federal judge resignation, Ninth Circuit Judicial Council says

ANCHORAGE, Alaska (KTUU) - In a 30-page document released Monday, the Judicial Council of the Ninth Circuit outlined a number of judicial misconduct allegations against Alaska U.S. District Court Judge Joshua Kindred, who abruptly resigned last Wednesday, including a Special Committee finding he carried out an inappropriate sexualized relationship with one of his law clerks who eventually became an Assistant United States Attorney.

The former law clerk did not appear on any case before Judge Kindred while she was employed as an Assistant United States Attorney.

The documents also details how the Special Committee found that Kindred created a hostile work environment for his law clerks and lied to the Chief Judge, the Special Committee, and the Council during the proceedings about the relationship with his law clerk, and could face impeachment if he did not voluntarily resign.

In November 2022, Chief Judge Mary H. Murguia received information about possible misconduct by Kindred, the Ninth Circuit news release states.

It goes on to say that once it was determined that the allegations had probable cause to believe misconduct had occurred, on Dec. 27, 2022, Murguia carried out the misconduct complaint, which was included with the news release.

The complaint stated there existed probable cause for Kindred to have created a hostile work environment for judicial employees by subjecting them to discussions about his personal life — including conversations sexual in nature — and ostracized a employee who raised concerns about his behavior; engaged in unwanted physical sexual conduct with a former employee and engaged in unwanted verbal sexual conduct with that employee; and told individuals with knowledge of his potential misconduct to remain silent.

In the Ninth Circuit’s Order and Certification document, Murguia made the following statement:

“The Judiciary is entrusted to self-govern and, in doing so, must hold its federal judges to the highest standards of integrity and impartiality. We take judicial misconduct complaints seriously. When allegations arise, the Judiciary conducts a fair and thorough investigation that focuses on promoting a civil and respectful workplace, free of discrimination and harassment, and maintaining the integrity of the Judiciary. The process seeks to preserve the effective and expeditious administration of the business of the courts. In all respects, this was a serious and sensitive matter. I thank the witnesses who provided information, understanding fully how difficult that may have been. In my role as Chief, I will continue to ensure that our judges are held to the highest standards.”

On Feb. 3, 2023, Murguia appointed a Special Committee to investigate the allegations, adding two more judges to the committee in March. The Special Committee submitted its 1,144-page report to the Judicial Council on March 4, 2024. The Judicial Council met on April 5, and Kindred presented an argument before being questioned by the Council.

The Committee’s investigation included a review of documents obtained from various witnesses, including Kindred, as well as text messages exchanged between Kindred and his law clerks, which consisted of more than 700 pages of text messages.In his initial response, Kindred gave “unequivocal denials to these allegations,” stating that he was “in possession of communications that [he] believe 

clearly establish that these allegations are entirely without merit.”

According to the document, it was further stated that Kindred’s regularly subjecting the law clerk to topics of a sexual nature and normalizing those types of discussions was “unquestionably inappropriate” and the fact that Kindred viewed the relationship as consensual and viewed his first few years as a federal judge to be particularly difficult was, in fact, no excuse.

“During the clerkship, there was unquestionably a special bond between this law clerk and Judge Kindred,” the document states. “But it was a bond that crossed the line from professional to personal in an inappropriate way that Judge Kindred should have stopped.”

In a letter to President Joe Biden, Kindred, 46, provided no explanation for the resignation — only that it would be effective as of Monday.

Kindred was appointed to Alaska’s District Court by former President Donald Trump in 2019 and later confirmed in 2020, and was formerly an Anchorage prosecutor and attorney at the Alaska Oil and Gas Association.

Content Warning: The attached documents below contain information about alleged sexual misconduct that is graphic and might be difficult for some readers.

According to a statement from Alaska U.S. District Court of Alaska Candice Duncan, Kindred had 77 open criminal cases and 148 civil cases, all of which were reassigned on Friday to Chief Judge Sharon L. Gleason, with the exception of seven open cases going to Senior Judge Timothy Mark Burgess in the Juneau Division.

Alaska currently has three Article III District Court judicial positions. Of the three current article III positions, one is held by Chief Judge Gleason with the other two vacant as of Monday after Kindred’s resignation.

The other position has been vacant since December 2021 after Judge Burgess entered senior status. Senior judges are Article III judges who have met age and service requirements and generally take a reduced caseload. Alaska currently has five district court Judges in senior status.

With Chief Judge Gleason being the only remaining Article III district judge on the Alaska Bench, the increased caseloads are expected to cause delays due to Gleason’s availability. According to Duncan’s statement, judges from other federal district courts may sit in as visiting judges in the District of Alaska if available.

“Cases will continue to be scheduled for hearings and trials based on availability of the assigned judicial officer and the parties in the case and the requirements of the Speedy Trial Act in criminal cases,” Duncan stated. “The Clerk’s Office will continue to provide case management and courtroom support on all cases.”

Alaska Sen. Dan Sullivan said in an email to Alaska’s News Source that he found Kindred’s misconduct to be “extremely disappointing.”

“I will continue to work with the Alaska Federal Judicial Council for appointment of federal judges who understand Alaska’s unique role in our federal system,” Sullivan stated. “This is crucially important for our state. Federal judges have lifetime tenure - their decisions will positively or negatively impact Alaskans for decades. I remain focused on working with relevant stakeholders to appoint Alaska federal judges who interpret the law as Congress intended, not as special interest groups and unelected federal bureaucrats want it to be.”

Also, in an email to Alaska’s News Source, Duncan said she did not have access to any further information regarding Kindred’s resignation. Kindred did not respond to requests for comments by the time of publication.

 

 

Edited July 9 by chainsaw

[Captainant 27857]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/clarence-thomas-accepted-yacht-trip-to-russia-chopper-flight-to-putins-hometown-democrats

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[Neonmoon 38130]

It's amazing how corrupt the Supreme Court is

[Longhorn_Fan68 33900]

 

 

[Captainant 27857]

1 hour ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

 

 

Fuck yeah. Here's the actual articles 

http://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/ocasio-cortez.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/OCASNY_077_xml.pdf

http://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/ocasio-cortez.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/OCASNY_076_xml.pdf

[tchookem 3919]

 
 

Interesting. If it makes it out of the HOR, I guess she's trying to drag them into the light and shame them? It won't work, shame is a weakness these men shed long ago. But their answers will give us interesting sound bites and give history something to interpret... unless they refuse to show up... and they don't take the 5th... and we aren't in an Idiocracy/Logan's Run Hellscape by the time history gets around to it.

[tx 3 putt 77594]

2 hours ago, Captainant said:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/clarence-thomas-accepted-yacht-trip-to-russia-chopper-flight-to-putins-hometown-democrats

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[Biff Tannen 45750]

54 minutes ago, tchookem said:

and we aren't in an Idiocracy/Logan's Run Hellscape

I got bad news for you

[Biff Tannen 45750]

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

 

 

Ain't nothing gonna happen, but at least she's getting caught trying.