The Supremes

[Pancho 44358]

Christ, so any qualified Black person for any position = CRT!

These people (some of who have posted in this thread) are anti-American.

 

[Tuco 5076]

Christ, so any qualified Black person for any position = CRT!
These people (some of who have posted in this thread) are anti-American.
 

I wish I was that confident that the US will be a meritocracy in the future.

[hobbes2702 12771]

2 hours ago, TurkeyChew said:

Every accusation is a confession.

Clearly you have no concept of what that phrase means or who it refers to.

[jimmyjazz 45513]

"And what's amazing is that she kind of has an attitude, too."

 

Code language for "uppity".

 

[TurkeyChew 383]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

No, it really isn't.  Their constituents don't really care.  They're creating issues and creating controversy so they can tell their constituents that libruls are appointing pedo-lovers to the Supreme Court and they tried to expose it and stop it.

It's not "practical politics."  It's bad-faith demagoguery of the worst kind.  The absolute worst.

That it jibes with Qanon narratives makes it that much more irresistible.

It makes Joe McCarthy look like Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.

How do you know it’s the tail wagging the dog and not the other way around? What makes you so sure here?

It seems more likely to me that these people are feeding the masses what they want; they aren’t smart enough to manufacture and psychologically manipulate the demand.

[TurkeyChew 383]

15 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Clearly you have no concept of what that phrase means or who it refers to.

I thought it meant that stupid accusations that are lazy and baseless mean that you are really projecting your own thoughts and feelings and betraying yourself, and that it’s a universal axiom for all?

[WhatTheBuck 28700]

24 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

"And what's amazing is that she kind of has an attitude, too."

Code language for "uppity".

Four men with attitudes:

[bolverk 29360]

39 minutes ago, TurkeyChew said:

How do you know it’s the tail wagging the dog and not the other way around? What makes you so sure here?

It seems more likely to me that these people are feeding the masses what they want; they aren’t smart enough to manufacture and psychologically manipulate the demand.

Ever heard of Pavlov's dog? That's what they're getting at, but it also has a feedback loop.

After decades of conditioning, the base only craves red meat, which is kind of like electrolytes. It's what plants crave.

After decades of feeding the plants electrolytes, it's the only thing their masters know to give them which, ironically enough, slowly poisons them and starves their masters.

In other words, it's a toxic, codependent, and addictive relationship wherein the abuser gains perceived self-worth by gaslighting the abused but, over time, inflicts harm on himself.

Edited March 24, 2022 by bolverk

[TurkeyChew 383]

30 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Ever heard of Pavlov's dog? That's what they're getting at, but it also has a feedback loop.

After decades of conditioning, the base only craves red meat, which is kind of like electrolytes. It's what plants crave.

After decades of feeding the plants electrolytes, it's the only thing their masters know to give them which, ironically enough, slowly poisons them and starves their masters.

In other words, it's a toxic, codependent, and addictive relationship wherein the abuser gains perceived self-worth by gaslighting the abused but, over time, inflicts harm on himself.

While a decent explanation, I'm not sure that is what Twice was saying.

[David Dennison 18608]

1 hour ago, Tuco said:

I wish I was that confident that the US will be a meritocracy in the future.

Gotta start sometime.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

2 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

The pseudo-rage over her child porn sentencing is just one more thing that has a perfectly valid explanation, but they intentionally twist the narrative to white knight for their base.  According to what I've read, it is widely accepted in the legal community that Federal sentencing guidelines for possession (not creation) of child porn are far too harsh.  Even prosecutors routinely suggest well-less-than-minimum sentences.

Ted knows this.  Ted doesn't care.  Ted is a monster.

Even the US Sentencing Commission has said that the CP sentencing guidelines don't make no sense and are not supported by empirical evidence.

But in the case of CP, Congress took the unusual step of legislating the guidelines, instead of letting the Commission figure it out.  So their hands are tied.

It's one of the worst exercises of federal criminal legislation as pandering to unjustified fear in our history, which has a lot of examples of that.

 

[Sawbonz 27375]

1 hour ago, Pancho said:

Christ, so any qualified Black person for any position = CRT!

These people (some of who have posted in this thread) are anti-American.

 

This motherfucker dropped out of community college 

[TwiceHorn 31184]

1 hour ago, TurkeyChew said:

How do you know it’s the tail wagging the dog and not the other way around? What makes you so sure here?

It seems more likely to me that these people are feeding the masses what they want; they aren’t smart enough to manufacture and psychologically manipulate the demand.

They are simultaneously fueling the demand and satisfying it.  And using fiction in both instances to do so.

[ChuckNorrisActionJeans 2655]

2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Christ, so any qualified Black person for any position = CRT!

These people (some of who have posted in this thread) are anti-American.

 

Just look at this fine specimen of the MASTER RACE

[gmr548 16463]

Christ, so any qualified Black person for any position = CRT!
These people (some of who have posted in this thread) are anti-American.
 

Party of white victimhood.

[TurkeyChew 383]

8 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

They are simultaneously fueling the demand and satisfying it.  And using fiction in both instances to do so.

I disagree. The politicians who pander to their base/people are doing so for one reason and one reason only; pursuit of political power. Take Ted Cruz for example since people have mentioned him. You really think an hispanic guy named Rafael who was an ivy league legal beagle and scholar would choose to willingly dance to the beat he has been dancing to? Of course not-- he is smart enough to see his line of sight to political power is to play the part--and play it well-- hence, practical politics. 

Politicians are merely responding to the demand of what their constituents want to consume. When/If MAGAT falls out of favor and XYZ is the new absurd political rage, these politicians will be XYZers if it means the path of least resistance to obtaining and maintaining power. Any other explanation beyond this is assigning too much credit to these politicians, IMO, and nothing you've said has bolstered your strong opinion a few posts up otherwise.

[TexasEd 8062]

6 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Why do the Republicans keep talking about child pornography and prepubescent stuff?

 

 

looking out for Matt Gaetz, you know because he has video of himself having sex with a 17 year old.

Edited March 24, 2022 by TexasEd

[TwiceHorn 31184]

32 minutes ago, TurkeyChew said:

I disagree. The politicians who pander to their base/people are doing so for one reason and one reason only; pursuit of political power. Take Ted Cruz for example since people have mentioned him. You really think an hispanic guy named Rafael who was an ivy league legal beagle and scholar would choose to willingly dance to the beat he has been dancing to? Of course not-- he is smart enough to see his line of sight to political power is to play the part--and play it well-- hence, practical politics. 

Politicians are merely responding to the demand of what their constituents want to consume. When/If MAGAT falls out of favor and XYZ is the new absurd political rage, these politicians will be XYZers if it means the path of least resistance to obtaining and maintaining power. Any other explanation beyond this is assigning too much credit to these politicians, IMO, and nothing you've said has bolstered your strong opinion a few posts up otherwise.

There's practical politics, and there's this.

Whether Felito would have preferred a more high-minded approach to political power at some point is irrelevant.  He has, in fact, willingly chosen to dance to the beat that he dances to.  And he dances like a motherfucker.

Politics is a nasty business in terms of pandering and other corruptions.  I have always believed that and generally been repulsed by politicians.

But what Cruz and his ilk are doing is absolutely beyond the pale.  He could quit at any time, but he fucking loves it.  I think he likes twattering and the power he gains from it more than being a lawyer.

In my pollyannaish world, I wish more politicians would "do the right thing" and appeal to the higher nature of Americans.  I get that the vast majority of them don't do that.

But not all of them actively whip the absolute worst tendencies of the American public for their own personal gain.

And that's why I don't fuck with the GOP anymore.

ADDENDUM:  I don't think you're a troll or a bad-faith poster.  But a lot of your posts, like the above, have a tendency to try to normalize what the GQP and Trumpists are doing as "politics as usual."  I don't think you're trying to be a dick about it, but I suspect you may be struggling to hold on to your "conservative" beliefs in the face of this dogshit.

 

Edited March 24, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[Mdhorn 5908]

3 hours ago, Pancho said:

Christ, so any qualified Black person for any position = CRT!

These people (some of who have posted in this thread) are anti-American.

 

[Biff Tannen 45477]

2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

But what Cruz and his ilk are doing is absolutely beyond the pale.  He could quit at any time, but he fucking loves it.  I think he likes twattering and the power he gains from it more than being a lawyer.

In my pollyannaish world, I wish more politicians would "do the right thing" and appeal to the higher nature of Americans.  I get that the vast majority of them don't do that.

But not all of them actively whip the absolute worst tendencies of the American public for their own personal gain.

And that's why I don't fuck with the GOP anymore.

This is what every single person who has ever voted republican or continues to vote republican needs to read and understand.  There is no more "politicians all suck" argument.  The Rs have gone WAY over the line and there is no coming back.  Only going forward into the fascist abyss.  And that ends in two ways, both involve horrendous violence.  Good job assholes.

[Biff Tannen 45477]

And fatty laughs.  Good job asshole.

[Bama Chick 28596]

If I may be shallow for a moment -

Justice Brown-Jackson’s husband is HOT LIKE FIRE.

And he’s a surgeon.



Also, love seeing her Sherpa, my man Doug Jones, smiling with pride in the background.

(He should have been the AG, damnit.)

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13537]

7 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

If I may be shallow for a moment 

You really don't need to ask here 

[C-Man 26992]

3 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

This motherfucker dropped out of community college 

At 0:43 of the clip at the link he calls her "unintelligent" without any sense of irony.

[fattyflattie 4636]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

And fatty laughs.  Good job asshole.

I find it very funny you don’t think all politicians suck.  

[C-Man 26992]

3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I find it very funny you don’t think all politicians suck.  

Funny how there are varying levels of "suck" when it comes to politicians in 2022 American politics but there goes the GQP painting with a very broad, both-sidesy brush. Take a guess which side of the aisle the worst of the absolute worst sit.

[fattyflattie 4636]

2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

Funny how there are varying levels of "suck" when it comes to politicians in 2022 American politics but there goes the GQP painting with a very broad, both-sidesy brush. Take a guess which side of the aisle the worst of the absolute worst sit.

Yeah I get it. Pelosi should be able to rack up 115+m while in office because Ivanka did 600.  Newsflash. They all fucking suck. To which degree is not really arguable anymore.  But being less suck is still suck.  In a country of 300m you think we could do better with the few thousand people that run this country.  But I know, last guy bad and all that. 

[elfenix 34168]

everyone sucks so imma vote for the one that doesn't hit my pocketbook directly more even though it empirically has lead to worse economic outcomes over the last 34 years so probably has reduced my income by more than the pocketbook hit

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13537]

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

Yeah I get it. Pelosi should be able to rack up 115+m while in office because Ivanka did 600.  Newsflash. They all fucking suck. To which degree is not really arguable anymore.  But being less suck is still suck.  In a country of 300m you think we could do better with the few thousand people that run this country.  But I know, last guy bad and all that. 

You literally said you were going to go on one of my neighbors' FB page and mock him for being rightfully upset that pipeline contractors' slap dash fencing did next to nothing retaining his livestock, so it's not surprising you see little difference in virtually 5 Times Worse. 

[C-Man 26992]

10 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Yeah I get it. Pelosi should be able to rack up 115+m while in office because Ivanka did 600.  Newsflash. They all fucking suck. To which degree is not really arguable anymore.  But being less suck is still suck.  In a country of 300m you think we could do better with the few thousand people that run this country.  But I know, last guy bad and all that worst of all time.

FIFY.

The absolute worst/bad political actors are Republicans. And they do it because they can't get/stay elected otherwise.

[fattyflattie 4636]

2 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

You literally said you were going to go on one of my neighbors' FB page and mock him for being rightfully upset that pipeline contractors' slap dash fencing did next to nothing retaining his livestock, so it's not surprising you see little difference in virtually 5 Times Worse. 

Eh, I vaguely remember something about that thread, but a link would be nice.  I don't have a FB account, and run cattle myself, so interested in my state of mind at the moment.  I do lay pipelines though, so who knows.  

Also, I can easily see what 5 fold of something is.  What I fail to understand is how 1x is completely excused to the point that they've been continually voted into office (encouraged if you will) for 33 years.  And I'm not even a Pelosi hater, just the easiest example for me to google. 

[TwiceHorn 31184]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Eh, I vaguely remember something about that thread, but a link would be nice.  I don't have a FB account, and run cattle myself, so interested in my state of mind at the moment.  I do lay pipelines though, so who knows.  

Also, I can easily see what 5 fold of something is.  What I fail to understand is how 1x is completely excused to the point that they've been continually voted into office (encouraged if you will) for 33 years.  And I'm not even a Pelosi hater, just the easiest example for me to google. 

And Pelosi has a husband involved in finance and they have amassed their fortune in 59 years of marriage, and her 32 year political career.

Javanka made nearly 5x that much in a four year political career.

I don't really like Pelosi, but the suck is several orders of magnitude lower.

 

 

[Dutchrudder 11103]

So just out of curiosity, if Thomas ends up on terminal life support, there's no way Ginni pulls the plug until a Republican is President, right?  Is there a way to boot a Justice from the court if he winds up in a Teri Schiavo type situation?  

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13537]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Eh, I vaguely remember something about that thread, but a link would be nice.  I don't have a FB account, and run cattle myself, so interested in my state of mind at the moment.  I do lay pipelines though, so who knows.  

Also, I can easily see what 5 fold of something is.  What I fail to understand is how 1x is completely excused to the point that they've been continually voted into office (encouraged if you will) for 33 years.  And I'm not even a Pelosi hater, just the easiest example for me to google. 

Nothing's completely excused. That would be 0 X and literally orders of magnitude worse, nor am I going to be a fucking errand boy and dig up the post you're tacitly admitting to with all the contingent remorse of "Eh" which pretty much illustrates my point. 

[fattyflattie 4636]

Just now, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Nothing's completely excused. That would be 0 X and literally orders of magnitude worse, nor am I going to be a fucking errand boy and dig up the post you're tacitly admitting to with all the contingent remorse of "Eh" which pretty much illustrates my point. 

Oh, so probably just making shit up then.  Cool, cool.  I'm certain your buddy wasn't bitching when he took the money for that line, but yeah what a smooth buttfucking.  Whatever is a cattleman to do when 150' of fence needs repair? 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13537]

"Eh, yeah that sounds like me"

"I ain't gonna look it up"

"Oh.  ....   You're probably lying!"

[fattyflattie 4636]

I’m sorry your friend can’t manage contractors he made a deal with. I’m sure no one here has ever had an issue with shoddy work from a contractor, how could anyone ever relate. I truly hope he decided life was worth living, and used some of that sweet ROW $$ to have someone patch his fence.  
 

Thank you for the entertainment this evening. Have a good night. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13537]

16 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I’m sorry your friend can’t manage contractors he made a deal with. I’m sure no one here has ever had an issue with shoddy work from a contractor, how could anyone ever relate. I truly hope he decided life was worth living, and used some of that sweet ROW $$ to have someone patch his fence.  
 

Thank you for the entertainment this evening. Have a good night. 

He never made any deal, fuckwit. That was the whole point. You used that to gloat over his misfortune because you're a pointless, unoriginal, monotonous dick in a sea of cloned Edge Lords just continually baffled the rest of world doesn't possess your goldfish attention span. 

It wasn't the government seizing his land for the common good in exchange for a market value in which he had equal say.

It was a private company seizing private land for the purpose of exporting fossil fuels overseas for private profit. Thank you for illustrating the ass-to-mouth auto-pilot Shit Factory that the World has been begging for.  

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

And Pelosi has a husband involved in finance and they have amassed their fortune in 59 years of marriage, and her 32 year political career.

Javanka made nearly 5x that much in a four year political career.

I don't really like Pelosi, but the suck is several orders of magnitude lower.

 

 

Pardon me, Counselor, but I have but one small bone to pick with this statement. To the best of my knowledge, neither ChemBoob Ivanka nor her Cerakote-faced spouse have ever filed for candidacy so the term 'politician' in terms of a political 'career' is being overly generous. That is not to say that she does not fit the looser definition of the word or that she does not or did not have political aspirations, but the truth of the matter is that she wholly had political perspiration--the effluviant droplets of sweat bestowed, or rather, flung upon her by her father and his egregious offenses while in office. She was (once named) a special 'advisor' or 'assistant' to the President, and as such should have been subject to the ethical code of conduct applied to any government official, which she conveniently ignored. Multiple times. That was a hallmark of the former administration for most of their set, having sent the former Office of Government Ethics Director, Walter Shaub into apoplexy as the count of violations grew immeasurable.

Her livelihood is more that of a *freebooter, or mafia moll serving as the more genteel face of The Family, in my opinion.

 

 

I have no doubt that the current Speaker has gained some measure of financial success due to her position, but even my humble family has invested our smaller nest egg somewhat conservatively and done well over a long period of time. I would not object at all at all if the current Speaker were to retire, but that is up to her own thoughts and those of her constituents.

 

*I would use the term 'pirate' but only in its general sense of plunder and pillage. I'm afraid that the general public often conjures up a more romantic image of pirates than they deserve.

 

 

Back to SCOTUS....

 

 

 

 

 

[Chad Fuck 17503]

 
I seem to remember this court ruling close to two months ago that we were already too close to the next elections to require Alabama to redraw its racist maps. Now it's saying there's enough time to require Ohio to make its maps more racist.

We can piss and moan about the idiots driving trucks around DC for no discernible purpose. And January 6 was a bunch of hyped up morons doing moronic shit.

But this right here is the insidious undermining of democracy. This will be the kind of shit that really breaks the country.

[jimmyjazz 45513]

7 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Yeah I get it. Pelosi should be able to rack up 115+m while in office because Ivanka did 600.  

That's interesting, because the Business Insider report that just came out has her at only 40% of that number, behind 14 other congresspersons.  And, to be fair, her husband does own a successful VC firm, which is the source of their wealth.

But Nancy.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

 

 

[Biff Tannen 45477]

Good to see fatty overwhelmingly proved the point that he doesn't understand degree and nuance.  It's astounding. 

[Underdog 28437]

11 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

This motherfucker dropped out of community college 

And wore a diaper out in public. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

30 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

We can piss and moan about the idiots driving trucks around DC for no discernible purpose. And January 6 was a bunch of hyped up morons doing moronic shit.

But this right here is the insidious undermining of democracy. This will be the kind of shit that really breaks the country.

Of course, because sleight of hand, distraction, and theatrical displays are effective methods of liberating the desired treasure from the mark. It takes brains, courage, and love to keep the country on course. Dorothy may have been 'everywoman/man' but these days, one might question whether the average American can fill her shoes when it comes to the admirable qualities.

 

[Willfully Horn 7913]

8 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

They all fucking suck.

This conflicts with the nature of humanity, which insists that there are some pols that don’t suck. Instead of supporting these folk, your prejudgment creates a damning headwind.

[TexasEd 8062]

8 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Eh, I vaguely remember something about that thread, but a link would be nice.  I don't have a FB account, and run cattle myself, so interested in my state of mind at the moment.  I do lay pipelines though, so who knows.  

Also, I can easily see what 5 fold of something is.  What I fail to understand is how 1x is completely excused to the point that they've been continually voted into office (encouraged if you will) for 33 years.  And I'm not even a Pelosi hater, just the easiest example for me to google. 

Gerrymandering.  It's gerrymandering that gets us worse and worse results because the districts are polarized into +23 point safe zones for both sides so we get more extremes. They need to go the other way to the +/-5% zone all the way around.  Make the districts using population and geographic cohesiveness (compact, following rivers, major roads or political entity boundaries like city or county lines).  Race, age, religion, education level, income, political bent, union membership, etc. are factors that should not be included in drawing the lines.  Just population density and geographic cohesiveness.

This is never going to happen now that the Supreme Court is throwing out any attempt to stop the Gerrymandering.

 

Edited March 24, 2022 by TexasEd

[wildcat09 29187]

8 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Eh, I vaguely remember something about that thread, but a link would be nice.  I don't have a FB account, and run cattle myself, so interested in my state of mind at the moment.  I do lay pipelines though, so who knows.  

Also, I can easily see what 5 fold of something is.  What I fail to understand is how 1x is completely excused to the point that they've been continually voted into office (encouraged if you will) for 33 years.  And I'm not even a Pelosi hater, just the easiest example for me to google. 

It's ok to just say you were drunk, man.

[Chad Fuck 17503]

Gerrymandering.  It's gerrymandering that gets us worse and worse results because the districts are polarized into +23 point safe zones for both sides so we get more extremes. They need to go the other way to the +/-5% zone all the way around.  Make the districts using population and geographic cohesiveness (compact, following rivers, major roads or political entity boundaries like city or county lines).  Race, age, religion, education level, income, political bent, union membership, etc. are factors that should not be included in drawing the lines.  Just population density and geographic cohesiveness.
This is never going to happen now that the Supreme Court is throwing out any attempt to stop the Gerrymandering.
 

All
Of
This.

[TwiceHorn 31184]

14 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

Gerrymandering.  It's gerrymandering that gets us worse and worse results because the districts are polarized into +23 point safe zones for both sides so we get more extremes. They need to go the other way to the +/-5% zone all the way around.  Make the districts using population and geographic cohesiveness (compact, following rivers, major roads or political entity boundaries like city or county lines).  Race, age, religion, education level, income, political bent, union membership, etc. are factors that should not be included in drawing the lines.  Just population density and geographic cohesiveness.

This is never going to happen now that the Supreme Court is throwing out any attempt to stop the Gerrymandering.

 

Gerrymandering is a great example of pols not doing the right thing.  The right thing would be to legislate it out of existence at the state level.

It is a "bothsides" thing, but it has gotten that much worse as an intellectually bankrupt GOP struggles to hold on to power.