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Not even sure where to start. Mom passed 5 years ago.  Dad has been in AA for 2 years (although we know as of this week he is just going thru the motions). 

He met a 56 yo woman at AA in the past 4 to 6 weeks. Started out by buying her groceries etc. She is jobless, lost custody of her 13 yo kid, has a dwi she is currently dealing with. 

So far my sister and i  have found out dad payed her dogs vet bill. 6k. He has been withdrawing alot of money. 26k in the last month. 

As of last friday she moved in the house. She has convinced dad to have valuables appraised and to pull mom's jewelry out of the safe deposit box. 

Is there a way to get her out of the house? This is Bell co. 

We have tried for years to get dad to go to rehab. He is back to saying he wants to drink himself to death. He does this pretty much every summer. Multiple trips to ER, hospital stays

until he dries out then he checks himself out. 

 

Any thoughts are appreciated. 

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8 minutes ago, Fuck Tim Beck said:

Not even sure where to start. Mom passed 5 years ago.  Dad has been in AA for 2 years (although we know as of this week he is just going thru the motions). 

He met a 56 yo woman at AA in the past 4 to 6 weeks. Started out by buying her groceries etc. She is jobless, lost custody of her 13 yo kid, has a dwi she is currently dealing with. 

So far my sister and i  have found out dad payed her dogs vet bill. 6k. He has been withdrawing alot of money. 26k in the last month. 

As of last friday she moved in the house. She has convinced dad to have valuables appraised and to pull mom's jewelry out of the safe deposit box. 

Is there a way to get her out of the house? This is Bell co. 

We have tried for years to get dad to go to rehab. He is back to saying he wants to drink himself to death. He does this pretty much every summer. Multiple trips to ER, hospital stays

until he dries out then he checks himself out. 

 

Any thoughts are appreciated. 

Move back home with Dad, and try to drive her crazy or just add a little anti freeze to her OJ each Morning for a couple weeks.

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53 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Move back home with Dad, and try to drive her crazy or just add a little anti freeze to her OJ each Morning for a couple weeks.

this..^^^^^^...and you probably need to move to take control of his assets under the argument that he is no longer capable...I would move to freeze his accounts and assets ASAP and to get an accounting of everything of value.....even if it fails it buys you time and lets her know shit is not going to be easy

multiple visits to the ER from drinking sounds pretty serious and like someone that is out of control of their life especially in their 70s

if you can't get that done I would prepare yourself for a contested will with her bringing up some (bullshit if you are lucky) new will that she claims your dad signed everything over to her

as an giant asshole myself I would probably be showing up to her AA meetings soon and calling her out for being a fucking parasite and driving my alcoholic dad back to drinking and helping him to do so

hopefully is she has some kind of a "sponsor" they will call her on her bullshit and hopefully your dad has one too and they will both try and step in although there is really not much they can do.....along with the DWI I would start looking into what charges and what penalties she has as far as living with someone that is also a serious alcoholic and from the standpoint of enabling someone that is one......I would start to look into her criminal background overall

basically try and pinch her from all sides the sides trying to "help" her and the sides that have legal leverage over her.....be prepared for all of that to drive your dad out of the AA meetings though (which sounds like he is already fucking off anyway) and her trying to further drive a wedge (which I am sure she already is)

oh and yea she lost custody of her 13yo (that sounds nice and fucked) so I would be looking into that as well and what needs to happen with that and trying to drive a major wedge there to get her to back off....I would be calling anyone and everyone that investigates that shit and anyone and everyone that has any care and custody of those kids and letting them know what is up.....it sounds kind of dirty with a 13yo involved, but lets be honest she fucked that up before your dad was in the picture and if she can't get her shit together and wants to fuck over a drunken old man then the kid is better off without her anyway because it will be on from your dad to the next one until she finds one that hurts her or hurts her and her kid if she has the kid back or until she finds a guy with a family that will fuck her up

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20 minutes ago, ButtFumble said:

this..^^^^^^...and you probably need to move to take control of his assets under the argument that he is no longer capable...I would move to freeze his accounts and assets ASAP and to get an accounting of everything of value.....even if it fails it buys you time and lets her know shit is not going to be easy

multiple visits to the ER from drinking sounds pretty serious and like someone that is out of control of their life especially in their 70s

if you can't get that done I would prepare yourself for a contested will with her bringing up some (bullshit if you are lucky) new will that she claims your dad signed everything over to her

as an giant asshole myself I would probably be showing up to her AA meetings soon and calling her out for being a fucking parasite and driving my alcoholic dad back to drinking and helping him to do so

hopefully is she has some kind of a "sponsor" they will call her on her bullshit and hopefully your dad has one too and they will both try and step in although there is really not much they can do.....along with the DWI I would start looking into what charges and what penalties she has as far as living with someone that is also a serious alcoholic and from the standpoint of enabling someone that is one......I would start to look into her criminal background overall

basically try and pinch her from all sides the sides trying to "help" her and the sides that have legal leverage over her.....be prepared for all of that to drive your dad out of the AA meetings though (which sounds like he is already fucking off anyway) and her trying to further drive a wedge (which I am sure she already is)

oh and yea she lost custody of her 13yo (that sounds nice and fucked) so I would be looking into that as well and what needs to happen with that and trying to drive a major wedge there to get her to back off....I would be calling anyone and everyone that investigates that shit and anyone and everyone that has any care and custody of those kids and letting them know what is up.....it sounds kind of dirty with a 13yo involved, but lets be honest she fucked that up before your dad was in the picture and if she can't get her shit together and wants to fuck over a drunken old man then the kid is better off without her anyway because it will be on from your dad to the next one until she finds one that hurts her or hurts her and her kid if she has the kid back or until she finds a guy with a family that will fuck her up

Thanks! My sister already has access to some accounts and started working toward freezing accounts. But dad has caught on and removed her. 

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4 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

If you have some mean scary step-sisters, sic them on the succubus. That's how we eventually got a 30-something gold digger to move on from my dad who was about 75 at the time.

The fact that she had already spent most of his money probably helped too.

So how much does a 30 something year old gold digger cost a 75 year old man? For future reference. Maybe some financial planning.

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45 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

So how much does a 30 something year old gold digger cost a 75 year old man? For future reference. Maybe some financial planning.

Talked him into a reverse mortgage on his Hill Country home and the 5 (10? I forget) acres it sat on, I don't know the exact sum, but it gone.

Dad had a year or so of reliving his biker youth with her, rampaging around the country, blowing $. I think after she lit out, she started doing porn. I hope he at least got some practice sessions for his money. I have never seen her videos but if you google skinny tattooed skank you might luck into one.

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Go visit them
Treat her like a best friend and your glad she’s there
Have a little party. Ask her to take you to the store once she’s been drinking
Text a friend that y’all are mobile and to call the cops and report a very drunk driver
She goes to jail
Done


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4 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

Go visit them
Treat her like a best friend and your glad she’s there
Have a little party. Ask her to take you to the store once she’s been drinking
Text a friend that y’all are mobile and to call the cops and report a very drunk driver
She goes to jail
Done


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This is brilliant

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5 minutes ago, Handcruser said:

Go visit them
Treat her like a best friend and your glad she’s there
Have a little party. Ask her to take you to the store once she’s been drinking
Text a friend that y’all are mobile and to call the cops and report a very drunk driver
She goes to jail
Done


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This guy is pre-med

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2 hours ago, RDCanecutter said:

Talked him into a reverse mortgage on his Hill Country home and the 5 (10? I forget) acres it sat on, I don't know the exact sum, but it gone.

Dad had a year or so of reliving his biker youth with her, rampaging around the country, blowing $. I think after she lit out, she started doing porn. I hope he at least got some practice sessions for his money. I have never seen her videos but if you google skinny tattooed skank you might luck into one.

I think I may be your stepfather, RD.

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Seriously you need to find a way to get a Power of Attorney.

My wife had to do the same with her Dad as he was an alcoholic and then had a brain aneurysm (he somehow fully recovered)  and another  health scare a  few years later which opened the door for her utilize the  power of attorney and fix his mess.   Sure enough he was being taken advantage in a similar fashion by some drug addict like gals and they were robbing him blind, wrote some hot checks from his account and opened a couple of department store credit cards in his name.     We didn't find this stuff out until after  he had a second health scare, but she did manage  to get him to sign on to the Power of Attorney after the first scare  and she got control of his accounts and filed police and fraud reports with the appropriate entities and got him into an assisted living facility.  

Sad to say your Dad is on track to have  one of those health scares because of his age and his lifestyle. Once he does and if you have the POA, you can exercise it and tell the moocher to pound sand or else.   I'd be looking for evidence right now  that you could hold against her in the sense that it may or may not look criminal and suggest that when the time comes that she doesn't pound sand, you will turn it over to the police and then she might come to her senses.    Start looking for credit card stuff, bank records etc..  

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1 hour ago, Nueces River Rat said:

Seriously you need to find a way to get a Power of Attorney.

My wife had to do the same with her Dad as he was an alcoholic and then had a brain aneurysm (he somehow fully recovered)  and another  health scare a  few years later which opened the door for her utilize the  power of attorney and fix his mess.   Sure enough he was being taken advantage in a similar fashion by some drug addict like gals and they were robbing him blind, wrote some hot checks from his account and opened a couple of department store credit cards in his name.     We didn't find this stuff out until after  he had a second health scare, but she did manage  to get him to sign on to the Power of Attorney after the first scare  and she got control of his accounts and filed police and fraud reports with the appropriate entities and got him into an assisted living facility.  

Sad to say your Dad is on track to have  one of those health scares because of his age and his lifestyle. Once he does and if you have the POA, you can exercise it and tell the moocher to pound sand or else.   I'd be looking for evidence right now  that you could hold against her in the sense that it may or may not look criminal and suggest that when the time comes that she doesn't pound sand, you will turn it over to the police and then she might come to her senses.    Start looking for credit card stuff, bank records etc..  

But also be careful talking to him about a POA. He will most likely talk to the GF about it, and they may decide to give her the POA. 

These situations are tough because it is his money to do with what he wants.  Someone can be foolish with their money and not be declared incompetent. 

Just like dealing with a teenager and the love of their life, you don’t want to force your dad to defend his gf. Instead talk to him about planning for the future and what he wants to leave his kids, grandkids etc. don’t frame it as protecting his assets from the gf. That will fall on deaf ears. 

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20 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

But also be careful talking to him about a POA. He will most likely talk to the GF about it, and they may decide to give her the POA. 

These situations are tough because it is his money to do with what he wants.  Someone can be foolish with their money and not be declared incompetent. 

Just like dealing with a teenager and the love of their life, you don’t want to force your dad to defend his gf. Instead talk to him about planning for the future and what he wants to leave his kids, grandkids etc. don’t frame it as protecting his assets from the gf. That will fall on deaf ears. 

Very correct.    You have to do it in kind of stealth like matter.   I'd kind of butter him up for a while and then come to him with it and not even mention the GF.  In fact shut off any complaining or suspicions about the GF altogether and then bring it up.  

But if you can get that POA signed and let some time pass,  I'd start gathering evidence whenever I can (very stealth like when Dad is not paying attention)  because you never know when shit is going hit the fan with a health scare or worse.  Heck encourage them go out of town and you will look after the house.    Look for suspicious receipts,  things that are missing,  etc and see if they can be traced to buyer and then when Dad is incapacitated, hit  her with the  evidence  and give her a choice. Leave on your own or the local PD and APS will be here in 30 minutes to question you.  I'd probably still sic the police on her anyway even if offered to leave voluntarily so she doesn't go on to another potential victim.  

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Get the POA under the guise of long term planning to ensure that you can help if needed....you know.....God forbid anything were to happen.

Then whack him in the head with a 2x4 or throw him down the stairs and call 911.

That'll lay him up for a while so you can use the POA to deal with this bitch.

 

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