2023 Transfer Thread - Texas Capitalized, ATM Victimized

Why some players (Texas Tech) are waiting to jump into portal. I'm sure other schools have similar.

Texas Tech players have a financial incentive to keep their names out of the portal before Dec. 14. The last day of fall-semester final examinations is Dec. 13, and Tech athletes whose names are in the portal on or before that date are disqualified from receiving financial awards under Tech's Strive Program, senior associate athletics director Jonathan Botros said.

 

https://www.lubbockonline.com/story/sports/college/red-raiders/2022/12/07/texas-tech-athletes-in-portal-before-dec-14-barred-from-first-alston-award-checks/69707400007/

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The hottest topic in college football this week is the volume of players having their names entered into the NCAA transfer portal. New legislation adopted in August narrowed the time frame players could do so to a 45-day period right after bowl pairings are made and another period from May 1-15.

Hundreds of players had their names newly entered on Monday, the day the portal opened for this period.

Texas Tech players have a financial incentive to keep their names out of the portal before Dec. 14. The last day of fall-semester final examinations is Dec. 13, and Tech athletes whose names are in the portal on or before that date are disqualified from receiving financial awards under Tech's Strive Program, senior associate athletics director Jonathan Botros said.

Tech plans to pay its qualified athletes a baseline amount of $1,990 at the end of a semester for being academically eligible, on a path to graduate, in good standing on a team roster and not in the transfer portal. They can earn up to $1,000 more based on hitting grade-point average increments, performing five hours of community service and taking part in name, image and likeness education and personal and career development programs.

An athlete meeting every requirement can earn $2,990 in a semester, $5,980 in an academic year. That's the maximum amount established by the unanimous Supreme Court ruling in June 2021 in NCAA vs. Alston.

The ruling meant the NCAA can no longer prohibit schools from providing non-cash education-related benefits to athletes or from providing cash or cash-like awards to athletes for academic achievement in an annual amount up to $5,980. Previously, NCAA rules capped the amount schools could offer athletes at full cost of attendance. The Supreme Court upheld a lower-court ruling that the NCAA limits violated antitrust law.

Individual conferences may still set limits, but the Big 12 Board of Directors said in October 2021 its member schools could decide how much they want to offer in Alston awards up to the full amount.

Tech set up a program it named Strive and budgeted more than $1.8 million for the 2022-23 academic year to cover its Alston-award payments.

Botros, the chief financial officer for the Tech athletics department, said last week Tech plans to distribute its first Strive Program payments shortly before or shortly after Christmas.

"Essentially, as we put this together, we're saying that everything they do during each semester up until the last day of finals is how they qualify," Botros said. "As long as they're not in the portal, they're academically eligible by that last date ... because that can fluctuate. They can be in trouble academically and then recoup and get themselves back in a good position by the end of the semester, so we basically said the last day of finals of each semester is when we're going to look to see if they qualify for each element."

Asked specifically about players who have their names entered into the transfer portal this week, Botros said, "If they're in the portal as of the last day of finals or prior, yes, that would disqualify them" from receiving a Strive Program payment.

"But vice versa, if they made the decision to leave Texas Tech after the last day of finals," Botros said, "and we look back and say, 'All right, they did everything. They met their obligations to Texas Tech during that semester,' they wouldn't be penalized in that case."

The conflict for Tech football players wanting to leave could come up again after spring practice. The NCAA transfer portal is open May 1-15 and Tech's spring semester ends May 9.

Asked this week about the upcoming Strive Program payments, Tech defensive tackle Tony Bradford said he'd forgotten about them.

"I'm glad you reminded me," Bradford in a humorous tone, "because they're going to be owing me a lot of money."

As of Friday, Botros said, 307 Texas Tech athletes were in line to get a Strive Program check for this semester.

During a normal school year, Tech has between 400 and 420 athletes with about 300 to 320 on some amount of athletic scholarship. The total number of scholarships is 213. Texas Tech athletes in football, basketball, volleyball and women's tennis receive full scholarships, and athletes in other sports receive partial or "equivalency" scholarships.

 

9 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Relying on true freshmen, a spin down project, and walk ons seems really fucking stupid. 

Blackwell was a LB in HS and was recruited to Texas as a LB.

https://apple.news/AsWZK14tnTSaakqn7r1iLpw

Comprehensive Portal article from ESPN which breaks it down by position and by conference, and it doesn’t even mention Hudson Card.

Does he really have any options that are better than QB2 at Texas?

ESPN is trash when it comes to most things. 

Card will end up at a quality P5.

7 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

https://apple.news/AsWZK14tnTSaakqn7r1iLpw

Comprehensive Portal article from ESPN which breaks it down by position and by conference, and it doesn’t even mention Hudson Card.

Does he really have any options that are better than QB2 at Texas?

Yep. He'll be in the QB1 conversation at a bunch of P5 schools.

16 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Yep. He'll be in the QB1 conversation at a bunch of P5 schools.

TCU, Notre Dame, UTSA all possible. Probably missing a few others 

He's not going to UTSA with Harris coming back.

He's not going to UTSA with Harris coming back.

Pretty sure he wasn’t going to UTSA for grad school either.

11 minutes ago, JesusSweatDuck said:

TCU, Notre Dame, UTSA all possible. Probably missing a few others 

The beatdown TCU is going to get in Fort Worth would be that much more interesting to watch. 

37 minutes ago, MirrOlure said:

https://apple.news/AsWZK14tnTSaakqn7r1iLpw

Comprehensive Portal article from ESPN which breaks it down by position and by conference, and it doesn’t even mention Hudson Card.

Does he really have any options that are better than QB2 at Texas?

Two of the guys on the Cover 3 pod had Card as their top QB in the portal, and Bud Elliott had him second

Yes, he has some good options

I don’t see him going to tcu when they have chandler who originally beat out Duggan

6 minutes ago, kwood4408 said:

Pretty sure he wasn’t going to UTSA for grad school either.

Dude has a McCombs degree, he's going to be in the mix for anywhere with an elite graduate business program.  Not fucking UTSA. 

Notre Dame feels like a perfect fit for Card with their need for a good QB, the fact that they are a big stage, and their highly rated Business school.

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Dude has a McCombs degree, he's going to be in the mix for anywhere with an elite graduate business program.  Not fucking UTSA. 

ND, UCLA, NW, Cal, or Duke is the level of Business School he is looking at. UTSA or TCU are not remotely close to the same ballpark as what he is looking at.

5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Dude has a McCombs degree, he's going to be in the mix for anywhere with an elite graduate business program.  Not fucking UTSA. 

I am thinking Florida. Top 30 MBA and they need QBs that aren't being prosecuted for kiddie porn. 

FWIW - Bobby (IT) said Texas is doing a lot of behind the scenes work on portal entries.  The coaches were pretty disappointed in how some of their portal additions last year weren't a culture fit and are looking to avoid making that mistake again.  IT has been preaching patience for awhile - doesn't sound like Texas is going to go rushing in for anyone. 

Lmao.  They were surprised and disappointed in how their portal additions - WHO THEY ALREADY RECRUITED OR EVEN COACHED AT ALABAMA - weren’t culture fits?  Wow, if only they had more information on those dudes!  
Unless of course he’s talking about Ewers, in which case we’ve got much bigger problems.
 

14 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

FWIW - Bobby (IT) said Texas is doing a lot of behind the scenes work on portal entries.  The coaches were pretty disappointed in how some of their portal additions last year weren't a culture fit and are looking to avoid making that mistake again.  IT has been preaching patience for awhile - doesn't sound like Texas is going to go rushing in for anyone. 

The Alabama guys haven't done much. I think we are one for 3 on guys the staff knew before coming to UT.

29 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

I am thinking Florida. Top 30 MBA and they need QBs that aren't being prosecuted for kiddie porn. 

I don't understand how Card (or anyone else for that matter) can get accepted to a top MBA program without having at least 3-5 years of real world experience. Are there exceptions for athletes? These days MBAs are a dime a dozen, so I would think the top MBA programs would be extra selective.

2 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

I don't understand how Card (or anyone else for that matter) can get accepted to a top MBA program without having at least 3-5 years of real world experience. Are there exceptions for athletes? These days MBAs are a dime a dozen, so I would think the top MBA programs would be extra selective.

I'm in a public administration program, so not BA, but I think being a college football player would give just as much experience as my couple years of working. You'd learn a ton about organizations being on a team like Texas, and NIL would also be a big learning experience. 

5 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

I don't understand how Card (or anyone else for that matter) can get accepted to a top MBA program without having at least 3-5 years of real world experience. Are there exceptions for athletes? These days MBAs are a dime a dozen, so I would think the top MBA programs would be extra selective.

Agreed, it seems totally crazy to think that a university might apply a different admission standard for a recruited athlete than they do for a general applicant. 

12 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

I don't understand how Card (or anyone else for that matter) can get accepted to a top MBA program without having at least 3-5 years of real world experience. Are there exceptions for athletes? These days MBAs are a dime a dozen, so I would think the top MBA programs would be extra selective.

 

17 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

I don't understand how Card (or anyone else for that matter) can get accepted to a top MBA program without having at least 3-5 years of real world experience. Are there exceptions for athletes? These days MBAs are a dime a dozen, so I would think the top MBA programs would be extra selective.

username checks out and all that shit...

This one.  Yes, I will take this one.   He was PFF's 6th highest grade Safety in the Power 5.   Fort Bend kid - lets bring him home.

*Currently being followed on Twitter by Marion, Banks, and ADOPP JM Jones.

 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Hiphopopotamos

11 hours ago, TheMailBox357 said:

Blackwell isn't a spin-down project. He was a spin-up project. He played LB in H.S. & was recruited as a LB. I never liked the coaches trying to spin him up to Safety back in the spring ball seeing as we would have a plenty of scholarship DBs in Fall Camp & UT lacked of LB depth. Glad to see Blackwell is moving back to LB fulltime.

But anyways, I agree with your main point UT should probably bring in an experienced portal LB instead of just relying on true freshmen & younger underclassmen who still need to put on some weight in the offseason.

If I remember correctly, the coaches didn’t necessarily want to move Blackwell but he had trouble putting weight on. I hope he can figure out how to put some on this off-season because he’s a much more natural lb.

11 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

This one.  Yes, I will take this one.   He was PFF's 6th highest grade Safety in the Power 5.   Fort Bend kid - lets bring him home.

*Currently being followed on Twitter by Marion, Banks, and ADOPP JM Jones.

 

Sorry just not a culture fit. Our coaches have vetted him and deemed so. /s

Who decided that mba is the degree card will be going for next?  Are there not multiple options?  

2 hours ago, MirrOlure said:

https://apple.news/AsWZK14tnTSaakqn7r1iLpw

Comprehensive Portal article from ESPN which breaks it down by position and by conference, and it doesn’t even mention Hudson Card.

Does he really have any options that are better than QB2 at Texas?

You cite an ESPN article and then conclude he probably doesn’t have any better options than QB2 at Texas? That is some Football Board-quality posting right there. 

Edited December 9, 2022 by Burt Macklin

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Who decided that mba is the degree card will be going for next?  Are there not multiple options?  

Given that Boyd and Nahlin are probably writing unsolicited character recommendations for him as we speak, I'd imagine IT knows what degree he wants.

10 minutes ago, SuckitKevin said:

If I remember correctly, the coaches didn’t necessarily want to move Blackwell but he had trouble putting weight on. I hope he can figure out how to put some on this off-season because he’s a much more natural lb.

Is he that much smaller than Tucker-Dorsey or Overshown? Blackwell is going to get a lot of run in practice for this bowl game I suspect. 

48 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

This one.  Yes, I will take this one.   He was PFF's 6th highest grade Safety in the Power 5.   Fort Bend kid - lets bring him home.

*Currently being followed on Twitter by Marion, Banks, and ADOPP JM Jones.

 

Guess I need to wade through the shit  that is the realignment thread….

Edited December 9, 2022 by IDIOTsavant
Autocorrect doesn’t like my language preferences

12 hours ago, TheMailBox357 said:

Blackwell isn't a spin-down project. He was a spin-up project. He played LB in H.S. & was recruited as a LB. I never liked the coaches trying to spin him up to Safety back in the spring ball seeing as we would have a plenty of scholarship DBs in Fall Camp & UT lacked of LB depth. Glad to see Blackwell is moving back to LB fulltime.

But anyways, I agree with your main point UT should probably bring in an experienced portal LB instead of just relying on true freshmen & younger underclassmen who still need to put on some weight in the offseason.

 

24 minutes ago, SuckitKevin said:

If I remember correctly, the coaches didn’t necessarily want to move Blackwell but he had trouble putting weight on. I hope he can figure out how to put some on this off-season because he’s a much more natural lb.

 

12 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

Is he that much smaller than Tucker-Dorsey or Overshown? Blackwell is going to get a lot of run in practice for this bowl game I suspect. 

IIRC Overshown & Tucker-Dorsey were listed at around 220 LBs and Blackwell was listed at like maybe 196 LBs. So yeah Mo Blackwell, Trevell Johnson, & Derrick Brown all need to put on weight in the offseason.

2 hours ago, kwood4408 said:

Pretty sure he wasn’t going to UTSA for grad school either.

I have a high school friend who went to Duke for undergrad and then UTSA for Medical School.

Maybe he wants to go into hospital administration. 

I guess I don't work in the "business" world (I'm a trial attorney) but the mythology that surrounds a McCombs degree is funny to me.

1 hour ago, UDontKnow said:

I don't understand how Card (or anyone else for that matter) can get accepted to a top MBA program without having at least 3-5 years of real world experience. Are there exceptions for athletes? These days MBAs are a dime a dozen, so I would think the top MBA programs would be extra selective.

48 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

They’re reporting he wants an MBA because they are fake insiders.  The plan all along was really for him to get his degree from McCombs to improve his chances of getting into a good program for his Masters in African American Studies.

As a for instance, smart guy, here’s a list of masters programs at mccombs that aren’t mbas. 
 

https://www.mccombs.utexas.edu/masters/

 

14 minutes ago, RollingPresidential said:

I guess I don't work in the "business" world (I'm a trial attorney) but the mythology that surrounds a McCombs degree is funny to me.

Huh. Well, it’s worked out for me okay, I guess. 

 

Just looked at the US News rankings;  wasn't aware that the Texas undergrad program is as highly ranked as it apparently is.

 

 

 

Who gives a shit!

2 hours ago, UDontKnow said:

I don't understand how Card (or anyone else for that matter) can get accepted to a top MBA program without having at least 3-5 years of real world experience. Are there exceptions for athletes? These days MBAs are a dime a dozen, so I would think the top MBA programs would be extra selective.

The top 7 MBAs are the most strict about having quality work experience, but even for them, they will make an exception for someone with a really good story (like an elite athlete coming to lead their football team). 

Garbage MBAs are a dime a dozen. People with quality Bachelors degrees (let's say US News top 50) and an MBA from a Top 30 or better are not easy to find. If you are ever giving advice to a younger family member, advise them to get a STEM Bachelors degree from a top university and to follow-that up with a Top 7 MBA. That combo is a golden ticket to life. 

card sux

I have a high school friend who went to Duke for undergrad and then UTSA for Medical School.
Maybe he wants to go into hospital administration. 

I wasn’t aware UTSA had a Medical School unless it’s pretty new, I know that UT Health San Antonio does but wouldn’t help with transferring to UTSA for football.

1 hour ago, RollingPresidential said:

I guess I don't work in the "business" world (I'm a trial attorney) but the mythology that surrounds a McCombs degree is funny to me.

YMMV as with anything. It certainly won't hold you back and will likely open a fair amount of doors.

15 minutes ago, kwood4408 said:

I wasn’t aware UTSA had a Medical School unless it’s pretty new, I know that UT Health San Antonio does but wouldn’t help with transferring to UTSA for football.

I mean if 1966 is recent, then yeah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_Health_Science_Center_at_San_Antonio

1 hour ago, RollingPresidential said:

I guess I don't work in the "business" world (I'm a trial attorney) but the mythology that surrounds a McCombs degree is funny to me.

I’ve seen it all. Now soulless, motherless, cock sucking lawyers are looking down on people from other industries. The next time I get a divorce or a car accident I will be sure to show you my McCombs degree so you can look down on me in air quotes while sucking the bottom of my shoes to bill me more hours. 

6 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

I mean if 1966 is recent, then yeah.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Texas_Health_Science_Center_at_San_Antonio

My man, the very first subtitle in the contents of that link is about how it's not part of UTSA.

1 minute ago, Newy25 said:

I’ve seen it all. Now soulless, motherless, cock sucking lawyers are looking down on people from other industries. The next time I get a divorce or a car accident I will be sure to show you my McCombs degree so you can look down on me in air quotes while sucking the bottom of my shoes to bill me more hours. 

I work on contingency. I also think the legal profession is a soulless husk consisting of some of the most narcissistic, self-important blowhards anywhere.

1 minute ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

My man, the very first subtitle in the contents of that link is about how it's not part of UTSA.

True. Everyone in the medical field in Texas refers to the medical school in San Antonio as "UT-San Antonio".

1 hour ago, RollingPresidential said:

I guess I don't work in the "business" world (I'm a trial attorney) but the mythology that surrounds a McCombs degree is funny to me.

I was recently talking with a guy who is in charge of corporate development (M&A) for a Fortune 200 company. This guy only hires people from top universities that began their career in Investment Banking or a top Consulting firm (like McKinsey, Bain or BCG). He has a strong bias to the elite private universities, but told me he occasionally considers people who got their undergrads from Michigan, UVA or Texas. This isn't mythology. This is an East Coast guy with no Texas connections of any kind. 

Edited December 9, 2022 by JFKFC