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    2023 Texas Transfer List (Updated 4/17 3:05pm)

    On3 Transfer Portal Wire: https://www.on3.com/transfer-portal/wire/football/2023/ 
    Visit our friends at On3 for more in depth and complete portal coverage. This is the quick hits for Texas-related transfers only.

    Out:
    Offense
    QB Hudson Card, OL Andrej Karic, WR Trey Omeire, OL Logan Parr, OL Junior Angilau, WR Agiye Hall, WR Brenen Thompson
    Defense
    CB Jamier Johnson, DE Prince Dorbah, DE DJ Harris, S JD Coffey, LB Devin Richardson, P Isaac Pearson, DE Ovie Oghoufo, DB Ishmael Ibraheem, LB Trevell Johnson, DE Derrick Brown

    In: 
    Offense
    WR AD Mitchell
    Defense
    P Ryan Sanborn, CB Gavin Holmes, S Jalen Catalon, DT Trill Carter

    Targets (Estimated Needs): 

    *Confirmed mutual interest

    TE (0-1)

    WR (1-2)  *AD Mitchell (Georgia)

    DE (0-1) 

    DL (0-1) *DT Trill Carter (Minnesota; visited 4/11)

    CB (1)  *Gavin Holmes (Wake Forest; visited 12/17)

    S (1) *Ja'Had Carter (Syracuse; visited 12/17), *Jalen Catalon (Arkansas; visited 1/8)


    K/P (1) *Ryan Sanborn (Stanford; visited 12/10)

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    BigOrange1

    Posted

    15 minutes ago, Bevo said:

    That's interesting. Humphrey has always seemed like a much better college player.

    it's probably because LJH had one boss ass season whereas Whittington's production has been spread across multiple seasons.

    1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

    Is Holmes a one year guy or more?

    think holmes has 2 years left.

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    HtownHorn

    Posted

    19 minutes ago, Bevo said:

    That's interesting. Humphrey has always seemed like a much better college player.

    The only season where Humphrey was the starter, he went for 102-1416-10 all-purpose yards. He was also 3-4-19 yards and 1 TD passing.

    The only season where Whittington was fully healthy, he went for 51-670-1 all-purpose yards.

    You seemed correct.

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    HtownHorn

    Posted

    40 minutes ago, Red Five said:

    Brooks may also end up at safety.

    He was the starting corner for the bowl game, and showed elite traits on the dropped INT. He isn't fucking moving to safety. Texas already has Thompson, Allen, Guilbeau, Gooden, and Brice that can play Safety. If they are going to move a corner prospect to Safety it would likely be Austin Jordan. Not to mention WIlliams is coming in.

    The likely CB rotation next year will be Watts, Holmes, Brooks, and Muhammad.

    NB will be Barron and Guillbeau

    Safety - Thompson, portal, Allen, Crawford, Williams

    This could change if some of these guys enter the portal.

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    Tex-19

    Posted

    20 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

    He was the starting corner for the bowl game, and showed elite traits on the dropped INT. He isn't fucking moving to safety. Texas already has Thompson, Allen, Guilbeau, Gooden, and Brice that can play Safety. If they are going to move a corner prospect to Safety it would likely be Austin Jordan. Not to mention WIlliams is coming in.

    The likely CB rotation next year will be Watts, Holmes, Brooks, and Muhammad.

    NB will be Barron and Guillbeau

    Safety - Thompson, portal, Allen, Crawford, Williams

    This could change if some of these guys enter the portal.

    Austin Jordan could move to S too

    Pato del Muerto

    Posted (edited)

    Also have bj Allen at safety, unless he has or will transfer. Don’t recall if his lack of pt this season was injury related or not. 
     

    Edit- missed the inclusion of Allen a couple of posts above. 

    Edited by Pato del Muerto
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    Hank Scorpio

    Posted

    Someone get a bunch of NIL money and tell Watts he gets it if he will play safety. 

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    LTtxfan

    Posted

    13 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

    Also have bj Allen at safety, unless he has or will transfer. Don’t recall if his lack of pt this season was injury related or not. 
     

    Edit- missed the inclusion of Allen a couple of posts above. 

    BJ Allen had some non-football injury that set him back for 2022 per Bobby Burton.  The coaches are supposedly still high on his potential to play a lot going forward.

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    Tex-19

    Posted

    SIAP but Blue's social media continues to look more and more portal. V dumb to do based on one game, but whatever.

    Besides him and Worthy, who else do we have on portal watch? Is Barron still at risk? Any other big names?

    conVINCEd

    Posted

    14 minutes ago, LTtxfan said:

    BJ Allen had some non-football injury that set him back for 2022 per Bobby Burton.  The coaches are supposedly still high on his potential to play a lot going forward.

    I believe he had mono.

    BurntOrange&White

    Posted

    1 hour ago, HtownHorn said:

    He was the starting corner for the bowl game, and showed elite traits on the dropped INT. He isn't fucking moving to safety. Texas already has Thompson, Allen, Guilbeau, Gooden, and Brice that can play Safety. If they are going to move a corner prospect to Safety it would likely be Austin Jordan. Not to mention WIlliams is coming in.

    The likely CB rotation next year will be Watts, Holmes, Brooks, and Muhammad.

    NB will be Barron and Guillbeau

    Safety - Thompson, portal, Allen, Crawford, Williams

    This could change if some of these guys enter the portal.

    The whole talk of moving Brooks is so stupid and I believe originated from IT, they love a good position switch. Dude has pedigree and elite traits for corner. Jordan would be the move to safety as you’ve said

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    Vito Andolini

    Posted

    Skinner appears to be a tough kid… and well hydrated.

     

    Hiphopopotamos

    Posted

    5 minutes ago, Vito Andolini said:

    Skinner appears to be a tough kid… and well hydrated.

    Yep.  Only concern with Skinner is that if he does enter the portal his former WR coach (Emmett Jones) is now the PGC at Tech.

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    Funk Doctor Spock

    Posted

    3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    The whole talk of moving Brooks is so stupid and I believe originated from IT, they love a good position switch. Dude has pedigree and elite traits for corner. Jordan would be the move to safety as you’ve said

    Probably came from that retard Ian Boyd, who also suggested we move Rojo to LB. And that dude actually gets a paycheck for his "insight"

    Rockethorn1978

    Posted (edited)

    wrong thread

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    FreeHorn

    Posted

    There are people in the program that are trying to convince Christian Jones to stay another year. If he does that’s going to cost us a young lineman. 

    TheMailBox357

    Posted

    20 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

    Poster on IT says he’s hearing Catalon will commit on his visit.

    What's the name of the poster? Is he considered an insider poster?

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    TheMailBox357

    Posted

    1 minute ago, FreeHorn said:

    There are people in the program that are trying to convince Christian Jones to stay another year. If he does that’s going to cost us a young lineman. 

    Is this young O-lineman Cam Williams?

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    Hiphopopotamos

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, FreeHorn said:

    There are people in the program that are trying to convince Christian Jones to stay another year. If he does that’s going to cost us a young lineman. 

    I would hope if Jones is back that Cam Williams is given the opportunity to win one OG spot (and that DJ Campbell is at the other).

    UDontKnow

    Posted

    10 minutes ago, FreeHorn said:

    There are people in the program that are trying to convince Christian Jones to stay another year. If he does that’s going to cost us a young lineman. 

    I guess that means those people aren't confident in Hayden Conner/Cam Williams manning the RT position. 

    What I believed next year's OL would have looked like:

    Kelvin Banks -- DJ Campbell -- Jake Majors -- Cole Hutson -- Hayden Conner/Cam Williams

    HateYouAndMyself

    Posted

    10 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

    Adding him and Holmes definitely solidifies the secondary heading into next year. 
     

     

    I wouldn't expect much from Holmes. I am trying to keep an open mind with him but he is mediocre in coverage and one of the truly worst tacklers in all of CFB. Film backs that up and if you prefer analytics the same is true with PFF and every other ratings sight. It increases our floor a bit maybe but I have a hard time seeing him making much of a positive impact on this team. I can see the upside there as well but unless he shows up committed fully to improving his tackling I just don't think this staff, with how much they value solo tackling ability in space, trusting him with significant minutes at corner. I think he sees the field, sure, but I highly doubt he will beat out Brooks for that corner spot in any kind of fair competition. Not without improvement. 

    ClubWhatever

    Posted

    Just now, HateYouAndMyself said:

    I wouldn't expect much from Holmes. I am trying to keep an open mind with him but he is mediocre in coverage and one of the truly worst tacklers in all of CFB. Film backs that up and if you prefer analytics the same is true with PFF and every other ratings sight. It increases our floor a bit maybe but I have a hard time seeing him making much of a positive impact on this team. I can see the upside there as well but unless he shows up committed fully to improving his tackling I just don't think this staff, with how much they value solo tackling ability in space, trusting him with significant minutes at corner. I think he sees the field, sure, but I highly doubt he will beat out Brooks for that corner spot in any kind of fair competition. Not without improvement. 

    HateYouAndMyselfAndHolmes

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    HateYouAndMyself

    Posted

    8 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

    I guess that means those people aren't confident in Hayden Conner/Cam Williams manning the RT position. 

    What I believed next year's OL would have looked like:

    Kelvin Banks -- DJ Campbell -- Jake Majors -- Cole Hutson -- Hayden Conner/Cam Williams

    If retaining Christian Jones means we perhaps move one of those guys inside to replace Hutson I am all for it. Man did he struggle at times this year. 

    And @ClubWhatever I'll save you the trouble; HateYouAndMyselfAndHolmesAndHutson

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    Hiphopopotamos

    Posted

    9 minutes ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

    I wouldn't expect much from Holmes. I am trying to keep an open mind with him but he is mediocre in coverage and one of the truly worst tacklers in all of CFB. Film backs that up and if you prefer analytics the same is true with PFF and every other ratings sight. It increases our floor a bit maybe but I have a hard time seeing him making much of a positive impact on this team. I can see the upside there as well but unless he shows up committed fully to improving his tackling I just don't think this staff, with how much they value solo tackling ability in space, trusting him with significant minutes at corner. I think he sees the field, sure, but I highly doubt he will beat out Brooks for that corner spot in any kind of fair competition. Not without improvement. 

    PFF graded Brooks with a lower tackling grade than Holmes.

    HateYouAndMyself

    Posted

    Just now, Hiphopopotamos said:

    PFF graded Brooks with a lower tackling grade than Holmes.

    Dear lord is Brooks that bad a tackler also? I don't think I've ever bothered looking up his PFF stuff since the sample size is so small. I know Holmes was in the like low 30s in tackling over his time at WF when I was looking at some of his film and got curious. I assumed (always a mistake apparently) that Brooks was at least a somewhat decent tackler if they were even remotely considering a move to safety for him. 

    Hookem2147

    Posted

    26 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

    I guess that means those people aren't confident in Hayden Conner/Cam Williams manning the RT position. 

    What I believed next year's OL would have looked like:

    Kelvin Banks -- DJ Campbell -- Jake Majors -- Cole Hutson -- Hayden Conner/Cam Williams

    I don’t think it’s an indictment on Williams/Conner as much as it is Jones was damn good this year and we would have the best tackle duo in the Big 12 with him returning.

    If him returning cost us a younger guy then sometimes you have to make the tough calls. We should be pushing all our chips in for 2023.

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    BurntOrange&White

    Posted

    51 minutes ago, FreeHorn said:

    There are people in the program that are trying to convince Christian Jones to stay another year. If he does that’s going to cost us a young lineman. 

    yup

    BurntOrange&White

    Posted

    7 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

    I don’t think it’s an indictment on Williams/Conner as much as it is Jones was damn good this year and we would have the best tackle duo in the Big 12 with him returning.

    If him returning cost us a younger guy then sometimes you have to make the tough calls. We should be pushing all our chips in for 2023.

    The casualty will be Cam Williams most likely. A 1 year rental and losing a guy who will be here at least 2 more years isn't a trade off i want..

    UDontKnow

    Posted

    4 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

    I don’t think it’s an indictment on Williams/Conner as much as it is Jones was damn good this year and we would have the best tackle duo in the Big 12 with him returning.

    If him returning cost us a younger guy then sometimes you have to make the tough calls. We should be pushing all our chips in for 2023.

    Guess those same people are telling Jones that he would likely be a late round draft pick or undrafted free agent if he left now. I'm sure Jones can get NIL that would meet or exceed NFL pay if he were to leave now. But the big question is whether or not Jones spending another season on the 40 Acres vaults him into a Day 2/early Day 3 NFL pick?

    Hookem2147

    Posted

    1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    The casualty will be Cam Williams most likely. A 1 year rental and losing a guy who will be here at least 2 more years isn't a trade off i want..

    We think Cam Williams could be really good but we don’t know. We know Jones is good and he’s proven it.

    Not saying it’s an easy decision but we aren’t in the position to be pushing an All-Big 12 tackle out the door headed into year 3.

    And as was pointed out above, could Williams not compete on the interior for a year before kicking outside?

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    BurntOrange&White

    Posted

    Just now, Hookem2147 said:

    We think Cam Williams could be really good but we don’t know. We know Jones is good and he’s proven it.

    Not saying it’s an easy decision but we aren’t in the position to be pushing an All-Big 12 tackle out the door headed into year 3.

    And as was pointed out above, could Williams not compete on the interior for a year before kicking outside?

    So then DJ Campbell or Neto leave? 

    Hookem2147

    Posted (edited)

    2 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    So then DJ Campbell or Neto leave? 

    First world problems we have. 

    (Neto seemed to be furthest behind of the big name guys. The odds of keeping all 7 lineman we signed last year were always slim)

    But yes, I understand what you are saying.

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    BurntOrange&White

    Posted

    Just now, Hookem2147 said:

    First world problems we have. 

    (Neto seemed to be furthest behind of the big name guys. The odds of keeping all 7 lineman we signed last year were always slim)

    FWIW I'm all for winning big in 2023 but at the risk of losing the future of the program and at a position of importance. I think it's better for Jones to go...

    Same with Whittington. I'd rather use NIL resources on portal guys than retain him.

    UDontKnow

    Posted (edited)

    3 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

    First world problems we have. 

    (Neto seemed to be furthest behind of the big name guys. The odds of keeping all 7 lineman we signed last year were always slim)

    But yes, I understand what you are saying.

    Malik Agbo had the least number of appearances of the 7 freshmen OL.

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    MuellerHorn

    Posted

    6 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

    So then DJ Campbell or Neto leave? 

    I don't think Campbell would leave. He's going to be a guard.

    We don't want Neto to leave. His younger brother is a stud EDGE in the 2024 class.

    3 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

    Malik Agbo had the least number of appearances of the 7 freshmen OL.

    This would be my preference.

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    Hookem2147

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, UDontKnow said:

    Malik Agbo had the least number of appearances of the 7 freshmen OL.

    Was talking about the big name guys (Campbell, Banks, Neto). I considered Agbo and Robertson more in the developmental category.

    totallynotabuttpirate

    Posted

    You absolutely take another year of a starting RT that performed well this last year. Oline is one of the hardest spots to project, so you take a sure thing every time. 

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    BurntOrange&White

    Posted

    1 minute ago, MuellerHorn said:

    I don't think Campbell would leave. He's going to be a guard.

    We don't want Neto to leave. His younger brother is a stud EDGE in the 2024 class.

    This would be my preference.

    Yeah but Agbo isn't the concern. It is Cam/Neto/Campbell leaving if Cam moves insides with potential of Jones coming back. 


    I kind of hope they try Neto at center position, I think he can be really good.

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    UDontKnow

    Posted

    Just now, BurntOrange&White said:

    Yeah but Agbo isn't the concern. It is Cam/Neto/Campbell leaving if Cam moves insides with potential of Jones coming back. 


    I kind of hope they try Neto at center position, I think he can be really good.

    I thought Connor Robertson has first dibs at the center position as he backs up Jake Majors. FWIW, both are also enrolled in McCombs.

    I don't think Neto leaves because of his parents. IIRC, it was his parents that essentially made the decision to send him to Texas and the quality of education was a huge factor in their decision.

    jetsfan76

    Posted

    Probably already stated, but Jaydon Blue has scrubbed his tweeter, or whatever from Longhorn stuff.

    victory88

    Posted

    2 minutes ago, jetsfan76 said:

    Probably already stated, but Jaydon Blue has scrubbed his tweeter, or whatever from Longhorn stuff.

    He knows he’s probably not beating out Baxter and is going to be 3rd string again.

    ATXhorn17

    Posted

    11 minutes ago, victory88 said:

    He knows he’s probably not beating out Baxter and is going to be 3rd string again.

    At one point, Blue was the #1 ranked RB in his class… But he never looked remotely impressive at Texas. Bust. 

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    HtownHorn

    Posted (edited)

    18 hours ago, nycHorn said:


    He didn’t play his senior year in high school. By all accounts he’s been busting his ass and had a great attitude about it behind the scenes. But the year off didn’t help.
    Here’s a New Year’s resolution for you - learn what you’re talking about so you don’t show everyone what a dumbass you are.

    He said he was going to sit out his SR year (to prepare for college), after an altercation with one of his HS coaches. Then later he tried to come back to the team, only for his HS teammates to tell him to go pound sand. He always had a huge bust component considering his past actions, and it looks like he learned nothing from it. Sure as shit, at the 1st sign of adversity at Texas it looks like he wants to leave, instead of working harder to improve and beat out other players. Maybe he should go to the coaches and tell them, I want to play the Keilan role if that gets me on the field faster.

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    ATXhorn17

    Posted (edited)

    26 minutes ago, nycHorn said:


    He didn’t play his senior year in high school. By all accounts he’s been busting his ass and had a great attitude about it behind the scenes. But the year off didn’t help.
    Here’s a New Year’s resolution for you - learn what you’re talking about so you don’t show everyone what a dumbass you are 

    I don’t have anything against him, and I hope he still has an amazing career at Texas (if he chooses to stay). From my POV, he hasn’t looked particularly explosive or elusive in his limited action here.

    But you should adopt that New Year’s resolution for yourself, dip shit! He didn’t play his senior year because he PUNCHED HIS OWN COACH. He didn’t sit out willingly. CTJ and Gerry H have both insinuated that Blue has serious character issues.

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    LTtxfan

    Posted

    2 hours ago, HateYouAndMyself said:

    I wouldn't expect much from Holmes. I am trying to keep an open mind with him but he is mediocre in coverage and one of the truly worst tacklers in all of CFB. Film backs that up and if you prefer analytics the same is true with PFF and every other ratings sight. It increases our floor a bit maybe but I have a hard time seeing him making much of a positive impact on this team. I can see the upside there as well but unless he shows up committed fully to improving his tackling I just don't think this staff, with how much they value solo tackling ability in space, trusting him with significant minutes at corner. I think he sees the field, sure, but I highly doubt he will beat out Brooks for that corner spot in any kind of fair competition. Not without improvement. 

    Not sure about analytics, but several writeups are pretty positive on Holmes.

    Here's On3

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    Texas has landed Wake Forest transfer Gavin Holmes, with the cornerback making the announcement via Instagram. He previously spent three seasons with the Demon Deacons.

    Holmes appeared in 11 games this year, helping Wake Forest to a 7-5 record. He had a career-high 23 tackles to go with nine passes defended.

    According to the On3 transfer portal rankings, Holmes was the No. 29 player to enter the NCAA transfer portal this cycle. He was the No. 3 cornerback and will now be making his way to the 40 Acres.

     

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    Lhorn

    Posted (edited)

    I figured with JBrooks being a guy who’s had primarily garbage time carries (and very few of them) and Baxter being a true freshman that Blue would get plenty of opportunities.  I see Keilan as getting more plays but not necessarily traditional between the tackles running.  

    we’ve been lucky with Robinson and Johnson being durable but I’d hate to see Blue leave.  He hasn’t gotten enough carries to know if he’s any good.  

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